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waffel

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Good luck!
I've read it a couple times, it's not bad once you get into it.
(maybe get a couple notebooks to keep track of all the names! :p )
 

zerocool1

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Originally posted by: waffel
Good luck! I've read it a couple times, it's not bad once you get into it. (maybe get a couple notebooks to keep track of all the names! :p )

i agree cuz there are a lot of names and they are all somehow connected
 

TheBoyBlunder

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Good luck! Be ready to be terribly confused! There's an awful lot of names that all relate to each other...it gets nuts.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
good luck! many a better man than you have tried and failed

maybe i'm better than them cuz i've read it once before :)
 

Babbles

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Cool book and all, but a major pain in the ass. It is like reading the Tolkein version of the Bible.
 

Vic

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Read it a few times and love it. Beautiful prose and fascinating (albeit complicated) story.
 

Martin

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Reminds me, I should read it again soon...its been like 3 years since I read it last time.

The only bad thing about is that its so short. How I wish it could be ~5000 pages, then it would have been one of the best books ever written.
 

glen

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I have ripped the unabridged version, and converted it to 32kb MP3 mono, and I swear you can't tell it from the CD.
 

TheWart

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Definitely better/easier second time around. My favorite part was the creation story at the beginning and te descriptions of the Valar. Enjoy!
 

episodic

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Originally posted by: TheWart
Definitely better/easier second time around. My favorite part was the creation story at the beginning and te descriptions of the Valar. Enjoy!

Synopsis of book please :)
 

StageLeft

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Hmm, that books sucks, if only because it's so difficult to read. Tolkien truly failed at making it accessible, and plenty of richer stories are accessible.

You need a bloody notebook to organize yourself as you grind on through.
 

ElFenix

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the ainur are created by illuvatar. then the ainur create the world. some of the ainur, including the most powerful, go to live in the world. the two kinds are the valar, the most powerful, and the maiar, who are lesser. The most powerful of the valar is melkor/morgoth, who tries to thwart the other valar in creating the world, bending it to his own evil purposes. After a while the other valar get pissed off, sack melkor's fortress, and imprison him for a time.

the elves enter the world. they are created by illuvatar, not the valar. the valar eventually convince the elves to come to the valar's land, valinor. most of the elves never go to valinor. at that time all the light in the world was emitted by two trees. the elves become ever more masterful. eventually, the most powerful elf, feanor, is born, and he crafts 3 jewels, the silmarils, which capture the light of the trees. then melkor is released. he plays nice, but poisons the hearts of some of the elves against the valar, including feanor. melkor then destroys the trees. at that point they could be revived with the light from the silmarils, but melkor steals those and goes back to middle earth. feanor swears an oath, as do his sons, that he will not rest as long as someone else, including valar, maiar, and other elves, have the silmarils.

so they leave. but there is a giant sea between valinor and middle earth, and the sea elves won't give them ships. so feanor attacks the elves, the first instance of elf on elf violence. for this they are cursed, and all that they do will be for their own ruin. eventually they make it back to middle earth. feanor and sons had left other elves that were going with them in valinor, then burned the ships. so the other elves had to brave ice floes in the north. eventually they fight a battle with morgoth's forces, all the way to the gates of angband, where feanor is killed.

<going to a review session, back for more synopsis later>
 

HokieESM

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Small recommendation: make a copy of the "family trees" in the back and keep them out next to the book. A lot of the names are similar in spelling--and its really nice to be able to refer to the charts to remember who was who's son/daughter (because that's relevant--especially with the sons of Feanor).