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Going Postal - A True Holiday Story

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TheVrolok said:
Just clarifying here, you saw his grabbing that counter as an imminent threat to your life?
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There's no way I can answer that as phrased since it doesn't follow from what you quoted.

His grabbing the counter to come at me was indication of intent to cause harm. That suggests that had he been armed there would have been a possibility of him reaching for that instead. Is that what you were driving at?
 
I hate when the post office gives you dollar coins as change.

I like saving those up and using them to pay at the post office. When you give the clerk the handful of coins they give you that pissed off, "why they fuck are you giving me these?" look.

As for OP, people probably were looking at you funny because you were wearing a wrap (poncho like clothing?) and yelling at the guy while threatening to defend yourself with your "imaginary" gun.
 
SunnyD said:
Face it - you treat EVERY encounter as a confrontation. You're paranoid and delusional. You need help.

I'm sorry, it's people like you that are the reason people like you exist.

Yes, I said that exactly as it is supposed to be. Stop being so fucking confrontational about everything, give people the benefit of the doubt, and for fuck's sake don't treat everyone like they're out to get you. Put your gun away, lock it up, sell it, then go outside and realize there is still sun in the sky. Ignore people that treat you wrong and go on with your life. Yes, you're going to get shit on from time to time... but all you need to do is move on. It's not worth the time or energy you expend. JUST MOVE ON. You'll be a much happier and sane person.

Again, seriously... you need help.
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Attitudes like that are why things have gotten so shitty in the world. People unwilling to be and act properly...people unwilling to stand up and demand what's right. Anything less is a crime against humanity.
 
PrinceofWands said:
There's no way I can answer that as phrased since it doesn't follow from what you quoted.

His grabbing the counter to come at me was indication of intent to cause harm. That suggests that had he been armed there would have been a possibility of him reaching for that instead. Is that what you were driving at?
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I'm not even going to bother anymore. SunnyD pretty much covered it.
 
TheVrolok said:
As soon as you threatened that the police would need to be called you became the aggressor. Had you not done that, I may, may, may be agreeing with you. You raised the threat level. Simple.
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I don't see it that way. Aggression rests 100% with the instigator in any encounter. I see it as a line in the sand. It establishes that there is going to be NO retreat on my part, so they can fix the problem or go to the last step now. It skips all the unnecessary crap in the middle.
 
PrinceofWands said:
I don't see it that way. Aggression rests 100% with the instigator in any encounter. I see it as a line in the sand. It establishes that there is going to be NO retreat on my part, so they can fix the problem or go to the last step now. It skips all the unnecessary crap in the middle.
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You're almost 200 years late to the Wild West.
 
SunnyD said:
Face it - you treat EVERY encounter as a confrontation. You're paranoid and delusional. You need help.

I'm sorry, it's people like you that are the reason people like you exist.

Yes, I said that exactly as it is supposed to be. Stop being so fucking confrontational about everything, give people the benefit of the doubt, and for fuck's sake don't treat everyone like they're out to get you. Put your gun away, lock it up, sell it, then go outside and realize there is still sun in the sky. Ignore people that treat you wrong and go on with your life. Yes, you're going to get shit on from time to time... but all you need to do is move on. It's not worth the time or energy you expend. JUST MOVE ON. You'll be a much happier and sane person.

Again, seriously... you need help.
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Quoted for the damn truth. But it's obvious OP will disagree like he does with everyone.
 
Exterous said:
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Just so you are aware 90% is not equivalent to 100%
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And like I said, you're just being utterly ridiculous in an attempt to deride what you dislike for unrelated reasons. Which is fine, as long as we're all open and honest about what's going on. To any reasonable person there is no appreciable difference between someone nearly screaming and screaming.
 
PrinceofWands said:
Attitudes like that are why things have gotten so shitty in the world. People unwilling to be and act properly...people unwilling to stand up and demand what's right. Anything less is a crime against humanity.
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Wow, nice. You're advocating violence as a way to solve all problems.

I eagerly await the time when that tl;dr post comes from you that reads something like, "Oh my god, what did I do? I took someone's life today..."

You're taking the attitude of trying to fit yourself (square peg) into society (round hole) with a sledge hammer. Your behavior is atrocious and you have a severe problem with aggression. Again, I stress... you need serious help.
 
I will ask this again.

Aharami said:
you sound a little paranoid.

edit: i posted the above after reading halfway thru the read. now that I have read all of it, you sound delusional also!

and you dont use CCs and you dont use banks. How the hell do you pay your internet bill? IIRC companies dont take cash in mail as payment. Do you drive to the cable/gas/water/sewer/phone/etc company's office each month to pay your utilities? Sounds a little inconvenient. Yet you cant be inconvenienced to pack up your stuff and go to the next post office?

And if you dont use banks, why did you ask for directions to the closest bank?
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SunnyD said:
Wow, nice. You're advocating violence as a way to solve all problems.

I eagerly await the time when that tl;dr post comes from you that reads something like, "Oh my god, what did I do? I took someone's life today..."

You're taking the attitude of trying to fit yourself (square peg) into society (round hole) with a sledge hammer. Your behavior is atrocious and you have a severe problem with aggression. Again, I stress... you need serious help.
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You are, of course, welcome to that opinion.
 
PrinceofWands said:
And like I said, you're just being utterly ridiculous in an attempt to deride what you dislike for unrelated reasons.
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Actually - you never said that or even came close to saying something like that. All you did was side step the points of my posts by trying to insinuate a lack of reading comprehension on my part
 
Aharami said:
I will ask this again.
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Sorry, I must have missed it in the posting flurry.

I try to pay 6-12 months of stuff up front whenever possible. Rather it's monthly or some other schedule I either pay in cash where possible, or use a money order when not. It's not inconvenient since you just do it as a part of your normal day. While you're at the store anyway grab a money order, and drop it off next time you're going out near the location...or mail it in. It's a HUGE difference to take an extra 3 minutes while you're out anyway or take an extra 90 minutes (45 each way), plus gas, etc.

I asked for a bank so I could break the $50. A store is going to want me to buy something to do it, if they can even break it that early.

Just wanted to say that I don't really like using money orders...I'd much rather just use cash. Sometimes it really isn't possible and that's the best compromise I can make.
 
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Exterous said:
Actually - you never said that or even came close to saying something like that. All you did was side step the points of my posts by trying to insinuate a lack of reading comprehension on my part
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It turns out you're right, that was TheVrolok I said that to earlier. Apologies, I crossed my respondents.

Edit: hahahah I did it again. LOL. Sorry.
 
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SunnyD said:
Face it - you treat EVERY encounter as a confrontation. You're paranoid and delusional. You need help.

I'm sorry, it's people like you that are the reason people like you exist.

Yes, I said that exactly as it is supposed to be. Stop being so fucking confrontational about everything, give people the benefit of the doubt, and for fuck's sake don't treat everyone like they're out to get you. Put your gun away, lock it up, sell it, then go outside and realize there is still sun in the sky. Ignore people that treat you wrong and go on with your life. Yes, you're going to get shit on from time to time... but all you need to do is move on. It's not worth the time or energy you expend. JUST MOVE ON. You'll be a much happier and sane person.

Again, seriously... you need help.
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This sums it up. OP is a certifiable nut job and now I'm worried that this idiot is allowed to carry a weapon. These unbalanced nut cases are the people who should not be allowed to carry one.
 
dabuddha said:
This sums it up. OP is a certifiable nut job and now I'm worried that this idiot is allowed to carry a weapon. These unbalanced nut cases are the people who should not be allowed to carry one.
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If it helps you sleep at all I've had more than one psych eval in my life (various programs, jobs, court hoops, etc), and always come out with a perfectly clean bill. That suggests to me that it's the knowledge, opinions, and perception of random internet posters that's off, and not the professional opinions of those who have actually evaluated me. The alternative is rather unlikely.
 
PrinceofWands said:
It turns out you're right, that was TheVrolok I said that to earlier. Apologies, I crossed my respondents.

Edit: hahahah I did it again. LOL. Sorry.
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I was wondering...

Look - I'll give you my perspective on this and leave it at that. Past debating the nearly vs screamed at and my other issues with your story if you were confronted by someone who was agitated or who you think is agitated you have some options. In this particular situation you could have just taken it or you could have responded as you did.

There is a third option which is, IMO the better choice. You stand your ground CALMLY. You admitted you screamed right back. In very very (very) few situations will this improve anything. As a gun owner I would hope you recognize this and would always takes steps to minimize the need for your weapon.

All you need to say is 'We're done here. I will need to speak to your supervisor' in a calm, confident, firm voice. No screaming required.

This escalated far too quickly. Regardless of who instigated this incident you possibly had an opportunity to defuse the situation. Screaming back only invites further incident and is not a requirement to holding your ground or being in the right
 
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