Going from AXP 3000+ barton to...

[AkumaX]

Thinking about A64 3000+ S754 or P-D 805. 3000+'s will be better on raw speed, but 805 could provide smoother performance (one CPU for Internet, other for Spyware/AV)

???

 

[AmpedSilence]

it might be better to wait for conroe. unless you want to upgrade immediately. Whats your motivation for upgrading?

 

[AkumaX]

Originally posted by: AmpedSilence
it might be better to wait for conroe. unless you want to upgrade immediately. Whats your motivation for upgrading?

Upgrading this weekend. All the parts are available to me now, and will be done this weekend

Wouldn't get a Conroe because its outside the low cost budget consumer range
- A64 3000+ combo will run me around $140 (because i need a video card)
- P-D 805 combo is $130, and I'd use the onboard ATI X300 video


I am getting a Conroe, but this comp isn't for me..

 

[dguy6789]

Pentium D 805. There is little difference between an Athlon 64 3000+ and a Pentium D 805 at stock.(10%) However, with the Pentium D 805, you could do all kinds of things that could not be possible on the Athlon 64. For example, you could play a game and scan for viruses at the same time with no slowdown. You could install a game while playing another game at the same time with no slowdown. You could burn a disc and play a game at the same time with no slowdown. You could encode media and play a game at the same time with no slowdown. Not one of those scenarios is possible on a single core processor without serious slowdown. The possibilities are endless. You can do pretty much two of any single threaded task with no problems on a dual core.

 

[AkumaX]

Originally posted by: dguy6789
Pentium D 805. There is little difference between an Athlon 64 3000+ and a Pentium D 805 at stock.(10%) However, with the Pentium D 805, you could do all kinds of things that could not be possible on the Athlon 64.

1) For example, you could play a game and scan for viruses at the same time with no slowdown.
2) You could install a game while playing another game at the same time with no slowdown.
3) You could burn a disc and play a game at the same time with no slowdown.
4) You could encode media and play a game at the same time with no slowdown.

Not one of those scenarios is possible on a single core processor without serious slowdown. The possibilities are endless. You can do pretty much two of any single threaded task with no problems on a dual core.

1) That's what i was thinking, one for everyday use, one for spyware to run in the background/anti-virus
1) 2) 3) and 4) Won't be playing games. most likely a word-processing/internet PC
2) 3) and 4) All these things are susceptible to slowdown, due to I/O (hard drive basically)
With my X2, things FLY only when hdds receive individual tasks: EX: HDD1 plays games, downloads, browses internet; HDD2 encodes OR decodes divx/dvds OR burns stuff. If i say encode a dvd, play games, and decrypt a dvd to hdd, computer usually blows up

 

[dguy6789]

With what I have experienced with dual core, I would NEVER not recommend it to anybody. General system usage is just so smooth. Everything snaps open with next to no regard to what I am already running. I update and run once a week Adaware SE, Spybot Search and Destroy, Syware Blaster, Windows Defender, and Kaspersky AV all at the same time, and it does not affect my general system usage at all(With my Athlon 64 3000+ @2.7Ghz, this was not possible, it would slow down general usage and even web browsing by a significant amount). Granted, that is quite a heavy load, so gaming may not be flawless with that much, but general system usage definately is.

 

[Stumps]

I went from a AXP 3000+@2.33GHZ to an AMD Athlon64 3000+ 754, even at stock speeds the A64 ate up the old AXP, but now that I'm running a 2.66ghz, the A64 is untouchable by the AXP, a good 100% increase in cpu power.

 

[mhahnheuser]

Dual core smoothness is largely overated. If single system components are taxed dual core doesn't kick in as I expected from what i'd read before purchase. Although overall i'm happy and satisfied with X2 3800+ i can't say that upgrading from 2800+ AXP from general user experience is that marked. AXP is still pretty fast. Eg 3D Mark 05 scores from 2800+ with 9800 Pro yeilded 2980, replaced VPU with X800 Pro yeilded 3950, and adding 3800+ gained 4950 3D Marks. Although these are ok improvements I generally feel that I've paid too much for the performance gain this time round. Just as an aside, AXP 2500+ with 9800 Pro was faster than S754 3000+ with 9600 (2670), by some margin (even got edged out by a 478 Prescott with the same card). I'll jump my VPU again before looking for a faster platform, although this time, unfortunately, I won't be able to carry my RAM, just hope that the new platform will be able to juice up that X1900 XT PCIe a bit more when i get it early next year. SLI and X-Fire is a waste of resources and not my scene, and if this is the future for gaming, i might think about investing in a console. I'm a bit scepticle as to how these setups add to the longevity of a system. My son's 6600 GT SLI setup is already looking quite dated and is not able to keep up with single mid-GPU developments already.