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Going for 24gb--which one?

Any reason why?

I ask because it's extremely unlikely that you will ever use that much and the $ could be spent elsewhere for better bang for the buck. Unless you're doing CAD/CAM, graphic design (photoshop or video editing stuff as examples), or running a lot of VM's (or one but off a RAM drive instead of HD space) there isn't much need for <6 gb currently. I was thinking about going to 12 or 24 myself, but after tracking mem use over a few days I realized I never hit 5 gb usage so more than 6 gb would be a waste of money for me.

FYI neither link works.
 
The links apparently do have that condensed "...", which is fine for display, but not for real URL. Your(?) post on [H]ard|Forum has better links. However, "Super Talent" is not a familiar brand, and the specs are somewhat lacking on usual details.

You probably did mean X58?

DisgruntledVirus said:
I ask because it's extremely unlikely that you will ever use that much ...
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aka "640K ought to be enough for anybody". 🙄
 
mv2devnull said:
The links apparently do have that condensed "...", which is fine for display, but not for real URL. Your(?) post on [H]ard|Forum has better links. However, "Super Talent" is not a familiar brand, and the specs are somewhat lacking on usual details.

You probably did mean X58?


aka "640K ought to be enough for anybody". 🙄
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lol... Yeah, I know we will get there but for 98% of users out there today <6 GB is overkill. There are very few situations where it would be beneficial to have more than that. OP falls into one of those 😛
 
haha i bought the one on superbiiz for 16gb at 4gb x 4 and 2x2gb
for a total of 20gb

rendering AE CS5 is slow especially when you add premiere in to the mix lol
im not sure if i should oc my i7 920?
i have a scythe ninja i haven't installed...ever
 
i would only do that much ram with ecc. you're odds of a bit flip at such density are too against you
 
note235 said:
ohh really? i dont know what that means?
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First of all, let me say 24 GB of RAM? OM * G. Uhh... talk about overkill.
Even 12 GB I could understand. But 24? whatever.. it's your money and your rig. Just don't complain about it when you build your next system some 3-5 years down the road and think about all that money down the drain. Windows 7 uses a lot of memory but 24 GB is over-kill.

As far as the point that Emulex made in his post, ecc sstands for "Error Checking and Correction" (It is also sometimes referred to as registered and unregistered RAM).

Wikipedia has a pretty good explanation here.

And kudos to Emulex for bringing it up - I would have never thought of it.
 
well i dont think its overkill for something like after effects
ive used all 12gb

4 cores = 4 gbs each + 4gb for the os
 
If you use a PC for animation and rendering the more ram you have the faster things are rendered. The common PC gamer however really will never need or use 24GB ram IMHO.
 
Maverick6969 said:
As far as the point that Emulex made in his post, ecc sstands for "Error Checking and Correction" (It is also sometimes referred to as registered and unregistered RAM).
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Just to clear this one up, registered and ECC are *totally* different. Registered is also known as buffered and it is commonly needed on MBs with large numbers of DIMM slots to isolate the RAM sticks from the data bus. The buffer or register allows a larger number of RAM sticks to be used since the power requirements on the data bus are lowered by the lack of huge numbers of RAM chips being on it. This generally means the RAM is somewhat slower through latency but when you need 144+GB, then you suck it up and deal with the minor speed loss.

Most MBs with requirements for registered RAM allow for un-registered DIMMs in restricted quantity.
 
alaricljs said:
Just to clear this one up, registered and ECC are *totally* different. Registered is also known as buffered and it is commonly needed on MBs with large numbers of DIMM slots to isolate the RAM sticks from the data bus. The buffer or register allows a larger number of RAM sticks to be used since the power requirements on the data bus are lowered by the lack of huge numbers of RAM chips being on it. This generally means the RAM is somewhat slower through latency but when you need 144+GB, then you suck it up and deal with the minor speed loss.

Most MBs with requirements for registered RAM allow for un-registered DIMMs in restricted quantity.
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A good example of this would be Intel 3420 based motherboards which have six physical slots where four can be used with UDIMMs and six can be used with RDIMMs.

Also, when you NEED that much RAM losing a bit on latency is generally OK for having access in the multi GB/s range versus drive storage. Even my 2GB/s+ SSD array is fast and big, but latency is ms not ns.
 
Registered "RDIMM" are like rambus - and also give you address line protection - UDIMMS are like regular dimms and only provide data ECC. Obviously if you want a system to run all the time you need full protection. like a jimmy - if it only works mostly - that's not a good thing!!

The RDIMM sends in larger chunks with more latency. but those larger chunks are also larger which can be good or bad. So to say RDIMM is always worst than UDIMM is not really true.

Every server i sell is with RDIMM. The price is parity and of course 8gb RDIMM cost the same (*2) as 4gb RDIMM so you might as well use the good stuff 😉

144gb is a nice place to be on a server. I regret 72gb.

Developers like vmware. Things like SQL server love all the ram you can throw at it.
 
yeah do you have a 30 megapixel camera? Do you edit pictures in RAW mode? well you'd be hating life with photoshop with 4meg of ram lol.

One of the reasons i picked up a used nehalem(Dualie) mac pro - obviously to run OSX for the next 10 years and the ability to put stupid amounts (ram,drive,video) into a nice looking chassis. and run win7 if necessary. ECC and all. Servers get rather noisy this thing can idle with near zero DB which i've never seen for a workstation of its class
 
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