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Mo0o

Lifer
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Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: Mo0o

I think if all she wants to do is mental health, psych is not a bad way to go. I think she'll get Rx'ing priv in a lot of states. But if she wants to do some kind of healthcare, def go med school because your options are much more open

Edit: Two more years, then im no longer covered by my med school, better get the paper work ready ;)

She'd want to go to med school and get into psychiatry. I don't know that there's a whole lot of respect out there for psychologists, even from her, and it was her undergraduate major.

I got an A in Torts, you better watch out :)

I'l have to hire someone that got an A in malpractice defense. What happens when an unstoppable force meets and immovable object?
 

sjwaste

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Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
CONGRATS on the Presidential Management Fellows appointment, from what I understand, it's incredibly competitive.

City Attorney is MY ABSOLUTE IDEAL job and I have applicable experience but no openings that I know of :( I would jump on it in a heart beat but I'm keeping hope alive that I'll find myself in a City Attorney office sometime in the future.

Thanks, I appreciate that. To be honest, I'm not sure how competitive PMF is, since they don't publish any official statistics, but the PMFs I met at my former client site are very good folks.

Our unemployment rate in the DC area is about half the national, and then half that again for the public sector pool. Plus, you can get those loans forgiven on income-based repayment after 10 years in public. Have you given any thought to moving? I think you're in CA, right? That'd be a big move, but with private practice experience, I couldn't imagine you wouldn't get a govt job out here.

Ironically, my fiancee's family lives in San Diego and at some point I'm going to have to move out there for a few yrs. I'll be in the opposite boat, probably having to take and pass the CA bar.
 

sjwaste

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: Mo0o

I think if all she wants to do is mental health, psych is not a bad way to go. I think she'll get Rx'ing priv in a lot of states. But if she wants to do some kind of healthcare, def go med school because your options are much more open

Edit: Two more years, then im no longer covered by my med school, better get the paper work ready ;)

She'd want to go to med school and get into psychiatry. I don't know that there's a whole lot of respect out there for psychologists, even from her, and it was her undergraduate major.

I got an A in Torts, you better watch out :)

I'l have to hire someone that got an A in malpractice defense. What happens when an unstoppable force meets and immovable object?

Courtroom explodes. It's actually covered in advanced torts.

My buddy works in PI/med-mal. He hasn't been to trial yet, everything just settles. I realize it might be biting the hand that feeds, but it just seems a little to easy to squeeze $ form the medical industry these days. Something might have to change there.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: TecHNooB
At least you have the willpower to put in that many hours :p Most people don't.
I know I didn't. Honestly, my time spent "prepping" for the FE Exam was done, well, in the bathroom whilst using the toilet, just reading through the prep manual. Total time may have been several hours. I passed the exam. :)

I guess I really did learn something during college.



 

Mo0o

Lifer
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Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: Mo0o

I think if all she wants to do is mental health, psych is not a bad way to go. I think she'll get Rx'ing priv in a lot of states. But if she wants to do some kind of healthcare, def go med school because your options are much more open

Edit: Two more years, then im no longer covered by my med school, better get the paper work ready ;)

She'd want to go to med school and get into psychiatry. I don't know that there's a whole lot of respect out there for psychologists, even from her, and it was her undergraduate major.

I got an A in Torts, you better watch out :)

I'l have to hire someone that got an A in malpractice defense. What happens when an unstoppable force meets and immovable object?

Courtroom explodes. It's actually covered in advanced torts.

My buddy works in PI/med-mal. He hasn't been to trial yet, everything just settles. I realize it might be biting the hand that feeds, but it just seems a little to easy to squeeze $ form the medical industry these days. Something might have to change there.

I think some hospitals have a policy where they'll never settle if they think they were not negligient. So theres no hope of a quick settlement if your case has no merit
 

RKS

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: Mo0o

I think if all she wants to do is mental health, psych is not a bad way to go. I think she'll get Rx'ing priv in a lot of states. But if she wants to do some kind of healthcare, def go med school because your options are much more open

Edit: Two more years, then im no longer covered by my med school, better get the paper work ready ;)

She'd want to go to med school and get into psychiatry. I don't know that there's a whole lot of respect out there for psychologists, even from her, and it was her undergraduate major.

I got an A in Torts, you better watch out :)

I'l have to hire someone that got an A in malpractice defense. What happens when an unstoppable force meets and immovable object?

Courtroom explodes. It's actually covered in advanced torts.

My buddy works in PI/med-mal. He hasn't been to trial yet, everything just settles. I realize it might be biting the hand that feeds, but it just seems a little to easy to squeeze $ form the medical industry these days. Something might have to change there.

I think some hospitals have a policy where they'll never settle if they think they were not negligient. So theres no hope of a quick settlement if your case has no merit


Med-Mal is very expensive. Finding/paying Doctors for their opinions and testimony is not something firms are willing to do if they don't have a solid case.

Even for most PI cases we don't file unless we have an objective injury and the insurance is absolutely lowballing. I currently have about 100 or so cases with about 10 or so that are in suit or probably will be. I don't think more than two will make it past mediation/arbitration but we do go ahead with interogs and depos to get the process rolling.
 

Mo0o

Lifer
Jul 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: RKS
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: Mo0o

I think if all she wants to do is mental health, psych is not a bad way to go. I think she'll get Rx'ing priv in a lot of states. But if she wants to do some kind of healthcare, def go med school because your options are much more open

Edit: Two more years, then im no longer covered by my med school, better get the paper work ready ;)

She'd want to go to med school and get into psychiatry. I don't know that there's a whole lot of respect out there for psychologists, even from her, and it was her undergraduate major.

I got an A in Torts, you better watch out :)

I'l have to hire someone that got an A in malpractice defense. What happens when an unstoppable force meets and immovable object?

Courtroom explodes. It's actually covered in advanced torts.

My buddy works in PI/med-mal. He hasn't been to trial yet, everything just settles. I realize it might be biting the hand that feeds, but it just seems a little to easy to squeeze $ form the medical industry these days. Something might have to change there.

I think some hospitals have a policy where they'll never settle if they think they were not negligient. So theres no hope of a quick settlement if your case has no merit


Med-Mal is very expensive. Finding/paying Doctors for their opinions and testimony is not something firms are willing to do if they don't have a solid case.

Even for most PI cases we don't file unless we have an objective injury and the insurance is absolutely lowballing. I currently have about 100 or so cases with about 10 or so that are in suit or probably will be. I don't think more than two will make it past mediation/arbitration but we do go ahead with interogs and depos to get the process rolling.

How hard/easy is it to get MD's to testify against another MD. Do u have a couple of goto people that you always use? Seems like a really odd way to make some extra money
 

sjwaste

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Originally posted by: Mo0o

How hard/easy is it to get MD's to testify against another MD. Do u have a couple of goto people that you always use? Seems like a really odd way to make some extra money

Generally, doctors hate to be deposed/testify because there's a lawyer challenging their opinions, knowledge, and general expertise on the other end. The money is pretty good, but most hate to do it -- that's why the expert fees are good :)
 

nerp

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If you think studying for a test is tough, wait until you're a resident. You'll look back to these days as calm and restful.
 

JJChicken

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
I've been studying for the USMLE Step 1 Boards the last 5 weeks, about 10-12 hours a day, 7 days a week. It. Fucking. Sucks. At this point I feel like a retarded monkey thats trying to grab more bananas while the ones in its hand are falling out left and right. The SAT and MCAT were a walk in the park compared to the hours i've put into this.

For anyone that's taken the Bar or similar exams, how the hell did you stay sane at the end. Can't wait for this bullshit to end.

Think that it will be over soon. Thats what I do.
 

Mo0o

Lifer
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Update: Just got scores back. 246. I think thats around 85%tile. wootwootwoot
 

sjwaste

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Congrats! So what sort of residency do you think that will match you with?

According to the VA Board of Bar Examiners, I won't get results until Oct 19.
 

Mo0o

Lifer
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Originally posted by: sjwaste
Congrats! So what sort of residency do you think that will match you with?

According to the VA Board of Bar Examiners, I won't get results until Oct 19.

I'm still most interested in internal medicine. But luckily w/ this score, there arent any closed doors.
 

Whisper

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Feb 25, 2000
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Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: Mo0o

I think if all she wants to do is mental health, psych is not a bad way to go. I think she'll get Rx'ing priv in a lot of states. But if she wants to do some kind of healthcare, def go med school because your options are much more open

Edit: Two more years, then im no longer covered by my med school, better get the paper work ready ;)

She'd want to go to med school and get into psychiatry. I don't know that there's a whole lot of respect out there for psychologists, even from her, and it was her undergraduate major.

I got an A in Torts, you better watch out :)

Not to thread-jack, but level of respect for psychologists truly varies depending on who you ask.

If your girlfriend wants to primarily prescribe medication, psychiatry is the way to go. Especially if she wants to work in community mental health as a prescribing practitioner.

If she's interested in research, behavioral and cognitive interventions (including therapy), and wouldn't mind tacking on two years of intensive continuing ed after receiving her degree in order to prescribe, then psychology would be preferred.

In my personal experience, most clinical psychology students and practitioners who thought about entering psychiatry changed their minds after shadowing a psychiatrist and learning more about the field. Not a knock on psychiatrists at all, it's just the way things seem to turn out. Those who are still interested in medicine after receiving their Ph.D. seem to go into neurology. Although again, this is all based on my own experience.

Edit: Oh, and congrats to the OP for spanking some academic arse.
 

Sust

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Sep 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Mo0o
I haven't graduated yet, i just finished my first 2 years which is pretty much all lecture. After taking the test I go into the hospitals for 2 years to be buttfucked by everyone and anyone. Then I get my MD and repeat the process for 6+ more years.

Depending on how nice your attendings are, astroglide might be an option.
Remember to smile before, during, and after bending over.
As a medical student you are fairly protected from real abuse until you graduate and sign on as an intern or resident when they can really hurt you.

Congratulations on your awesome score and welcome to the trenches of clinical medicine.
 

vexingv

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Aug 8, 2002
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great job! but i find it hard to believe that 246 is only 85%tile; that should be more like high 90's at the very least. are you a Carribean student or IMG?
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: newnameman
I find it difficult to believe that studying 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, for 5 straight weeks is the most effective studying strategy.

My GF does this. ...though she's been doing it for almost a year, now.

I agree with you.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
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I'm SO glad I'm done school. I HATED studying and having to learn lists and other stuff by heart. I never really got the point of learning lists by heart, like "the 10 steps for etc..." or "the 7 types of..." etc... it's pointless, and with so many lists to memorize you get them confused. I remember Cisco was bad for that.

I will need to start studying again though, I want to get certs, but at least that's not 10 months worth of full time school, it's a few hours every night at my own leisure.