God Help me ffs!

[SniperDaws]

im in a bit of a pickle.

Everyones telling me to use Coretemp 0.95.4 to measure my cpu cores how can i check the temps are accurate or not?

CoreTemp under full load at defaults for Q6600 using Gigabyte p35c-ds3r Rev 1.1

Core 0 71C
Core 1 71C
Core 2 67C
Core 3 67C

SpeedFan under full load with same setup

Core 0 56C
Core 1 56C
Core 2 52C
Core 3 52C

My bios shows 1 temp and matches Speedfans when idle of around 30-35.

also surely if my cpu was 70C it would be bloody warm in my case and my heatsink would be scolding hot as opposed to warm.

if i added an after market cooler its not going to knock my temps down by 20-30C is it, im inclined to think that CoreTemp is way off the mark here.

What do you think ?

 

[genec57]

Sounds to me like Core Temp is spot on. Your differences are exactly 15c which is the tJunction difference in quad core.
You don't say how much oc, if any, but you definitely need better cooling.

 

[MarcVenice]

Depends on OC-ed or not and on ambient temps. And heatsinks don't get scolding hot, they transfer most of the heat to the air quite fast, that's what they are designed to do, as to keep your cpu cool.

 

[XBoxLPU]

Speedfan is known to be off 15C so they seem to be spot correct in CoreTemp

You can get an Artic Cooler 7 Freezer for $22 shipped at ewiz

 

[Markfw]

You need more cooling than an artic freezer pro. I am even considering the hand-lapped Thermalright 12- extreme, for $100 at SVC.

 

[SniperDaws]

Originally posted by: MarcVenice
Depends on OC-ed or not and on ambient temps. And heatsinks don't get scolding hot, they transfer most of the heat to the air quite fast, that's what they are designed to do, as to keep your cpu cool.

Surely it would hot or feel warm round my cpu when its supposed to be cooking at 70C ?

its cold in my case seriously.


oh in answer to a few questions, im using intels stock cooler, my chip is G0, everything is running @ stock 2.4 mem is 1:1 so only @266fsb Vcore is @ Normal which for some reason is 1.3 in bios and 1.244 in Cpu-Z, i can run this cpu at 1.056v which drops my temps down to 39C idle 57 under load, But.......

i want to OC it to at least 3Ghz or 3.2Ghz but i cant raise the Vcore without the temps obviously going upto 80C and past ( well when using Core temp anyway )

Surely my bios would be more accurate ?

 

[Laminator]

It's called vdroop. The voltage you set in the BIOS is not the true voltage used by the CPU (which is reported by CPU-Z).

 

[SniperDaws]

Originally posted by: Laminator
It's called vdroop. The voltage you set in the BIOS is not the true voltage used by the CPU (which is reported by CPU-Z).

i meant surely my bios Temps are more accurate, the Vdroop is a pain but i can live with it.

 

[MarcVenice]

Erm, I would consider reseating the stock HSF first. It's probably not making good contact. Get some as5 and pray your temps drop. Your q6600 isn't running to hot for usage. but obviously can't be oc-ed, which would suck

 

[Accord99]

With CoreTemp, change the option so that it shows the Delta to Tjunction temperature. This will tell you how far you are from the throttling point. This is more useful than the reported temperature values, as it may or may not be accurate.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: MarcVenice
Erm, I would consider reseating the stock HSF first. It's probably not making good contact. Get some as5 and pray your temps drop. Your q6600 isn't running to hot for usage. but obviously can't be oc-ed, which would suck

Sounds like a good place to start. May have a fubared heat spreader on that quad.

 

[SniperDaws]

ive come to the conclusion that Coretemp is usless.

it was only a few weeks ago that it was reported that CoreTemp was showing 15C below, well i bet in another few weeks itll come out that core temp is wrong again after all, so id say the software is up its own arse, im going to buy an Arctic Freezer pro or the Tuniq tower anyway.

ive got my Vcore right down to 1.020 stable so im happy for now on stock.

ive also read this "You temp monitor is incorrect. If the CPU was hitting a massively high temperature like that it'd be crashing and whatnot. To prove it to yourself, touch a finger to the HSF. It should be within 10-15C of what the core temps are, so if your finger burns off then the readings are accurate"
Well my heatsink is only just warm and the air around it isnt red hot.

Thanks to you all for your help, but i feel a lot of you have far too much faith in this CoreTemp.

 

[betasub]

Red hot air? It's an HSF, not an afterburner

 

[SniperDaws]

Originally posted by: betasub
Red hot air? It's an HSF, not an afterburner

lmao yeah i know but if my cpu was running at 70C my heatsink would be scorching hot and if the heatsink wasnt seated properly the temps would continue to rise until my pc crashed.

ive also just OC'ed it to 3.2 8x400fsb with Vcore set to 1.344 in Cpu-Z

But now heres another reason i think Coretemp is wrong, take a look.

http://s14.photobucket.com/alb...=view&current=shit.jpg

 

[MarcVenice]

I dunno man, imo you are under the wrong impression about how aircooling works. If I let my cpu burn up to 60c, and touch my arctic freezer 64 pro, it barely feels warm, maybe like 40c warm water where you shower under, maybe even less warm then that. And with some decent airflow in your case, it's not going to get to hot in there.

 

[njdevilsfan87]

On my Ultra 120 I've had CoreTemp go as high as 75C when I was doing 3.6 on a quad - and the entire heatsink itself was warm, but not scorching hot. The top bottom of the heatsink was actually cool the touch. Heat is either dissipating from your heatsink very quickly or you don't have good contact.

 

[SniperDaws]

ive been reading and its basically this, you lot are right and im wrong. coretemps temps are correct and Speedfan and my bios only read Tcase temps.

anyway i stand corrected and id just like to say a big sorry to all of you for being a big stroppy knickers.

SORRY

the reason my temps are rubbish is because the stock cooler aswell as being crap to start with is bending my motherboard and making it slightly concaved so the heatsink isnt making as good a contact as it should/could, now is this a fault with Gigabyte boards as ive also heard that gigabytes motherboards are more bendy than everyone elses, anyway i need a cooler that uses a backplate to stop the bending and then i should be set.

Anyone using one of these, cos it looks like a beast, i betis expensive isnt it.

http://www.thermalright.com/default.htm

its the IFX-14. under intel heatsink on the top left.

 

[genec57]

The thrmalright ultra 120 is excellent as well as the tuniq tower 120. Not familiar with the IFX-14.

 

[CCityInstaller]

Originally posted by: genec57
The thrmalright ultra 120 is excellent as well as the tuniq tower 120. Not familiar with the IFX-14.

I am currently priming away on my Q6600@3.2Ghz using a Tuniq Tower 120, and it's by far the best heatsink I've ever used. I have tried roughly 8 coolers between my two Core processors, and it's by far the best. If you want a decent performing cooler that will work a little better then the Artic7 PM me. I have a very slightly used CoolerMaster Eclpise that is pretty good.

 

[SniperDaws]

what are your temps CCity when priming?