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[Pfunky]

I got a 2.4C the best I can get out of it is 3264Mhz with a FSB of 1088Mhz @ stock voltage. I can push memmory to 1100

Mhz FSB but it is not 100% stable. My timings are 3 - 4 - 4 - 8. And I run them at 2.85V. I am pretty sure my overclock is

memory limited, not processor because even raising the voltage to my CPU doen't stabilze the sytem. Any help or

suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

[sc0tty8]

well, you are running a pussy PSU, especially considering your video card.

If I where you, I would try a bigger PSU and RTFM, I belive that ati says you shold have at least a 400 watt, and here you are, with a 330watter, expecting a great OC. P4's draw on the 12 volt rail hard enought the way it is, then, you add in the video card, which pulls so much power it needs its own power connector

I have an antec 550w and when I got hat, I got to go a bit farther wth my axp 2100+, I had her maxed out at 2450. Sometimes you find the limit of the chip, and you can not go faster, just because someone is getting mroe does not mean you are going to go as far as they are. m MAybe you reached the limit on your mobo also?

 

[Slammy1]

I hate to say it, but is that a little under-powered on the 12V rail? I'd say 15A min for a 2.4C and ATI card, but that is just a guideline I follow and may be just a random number I read. Try swiching to a 4:5 or 2:3 ratio and see if you can o/c higher. That'd tell you if you're RAM or processor limited. Also check your voltages under stress to see if the 12V rail gives a lot of fluctuation or runs OOS.

EDIT: Curse you Scotty! Beat me to it.

 

[MDE]

That overclock is nothing to sneeze at. You got 800 free MHz. Quit yer whining .

 

[sc0tty8]

Originally posted by: Slammy1
I hate to say it, but is that a little under-powered on the 12V rail? I'd say 15A min for a 2.4C and ATI card, but that is just a guideline I follow and may be just a random number I read. Try swiching to a 4:5 or 2:3 ratio and see if you can o/c higher. That'd tell you if you're RAM or processor limited. Also check your voltages under stress to see if the 12V rail gives a lot of fluctuation or runs OOS.

EDIT: Curse you Scotty! Beat me to it.

Had ay beat by 3 min, so either your a slow typer, or just slow:beer:

 

[RalfHutter]

Hey pfunky, Welcome to Anandtech! Hope you have a great time here. It's one of the best repositories of computer knowledge on the internet.

Slammy1's got the right idea: use the 5:4 divider in your BIOS to slow the RAM down to see if you're at the limit of the RAM or the CPU. I'd bet the RAM, at least, cuase it's rated at DDR500 and you're running it at DDR522 when you're running an FSB of 1088MHz.

You may very well be close to maxing out your CPU too, but you'll be able to tell once you get the RAM out of the equation by slowing it down with the divider.

330W may be a little on the marginal side for that system too. ATI (in their specifications page) says this: "ATI recommends a 300-Watt power supply or greater to ensure normal system operation where a number of other internal devices are installed", so you are above their recommended range with your high quality, fairly tightly controlled Antec True330 PSU, but maybe with your fairly hefty OC you've put yourself on the edge of the envelope. Do you have any way to borrow a more powerful PSU?

 

[oldfart]

1) God does not hate you!!

2) Your PS is fine. Antec True330 is a high quality unit

3) 3264 on def Vcore is VERY good

4) raise the Vcore to get some more MHz

5) try the 5:4 mem ratio and see if you can tighten up those lousy timings

6) Welcome to Anandtech!

 

[jpetermann]

7) Don't expect much more form the chip after you reach the default vcore ceiling... they seem to stop quick...

And I agree with Oldfart, God does not hate you...


And... welcome to Anandtech


PJ

 

[Shimmishim]

#8) read anand's review on the newest SFF they tested... linkedified

they used a 200 watt enermax!!! with a ati 9800 pro and that thing overclocked like a beast!


like others have suggested... test out the ram dividers... sounds like you've reached the ram limit for 1:1 dual channel..


and once again....

God does not hate you!

 

[bjc112]

Ya, a 2.4@3.2 is no reason to complain. Overclocking ISN'T asured.

You just got yourself a $600 chip for $140...

God loves you...

 

[sc0tty8]

Again, YMMV, because someone was able to OC and power a computer with a 200 watt unit does not mean much in my books. Most review sites that do thier overclocking and whatnot, only have a setup for a short time, nothing like some of us where we will or need it to go a year or more, some of us will go longer yet.

 

[Shimmishim]

i guess my point was...

if they can do it with a 200 watt psu.. then 330 should be okay..

 

[oldfart]

My Antec True330 has been powering my 2.6C @ 3.32, 9700P, 1 Gig ram...etc..etc ...fine since I put it together in the Spring.

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: oldfart
My Antec True330 has been powering my 2.6C @ 3.32, 9700P, 1 Gig ram...etc..etc ...fine since I put it together in the Spring.

oh

then maybe god does hate him...welcome to the forums anyway

 

[oldfart]

The original poster had it pretty much right. He is hitting a ram limit which is easily fixed with a 5:4 ratio. A little bump in Vcore and he should be all set.

As far as God hating him.....Please......

 

[Slammy1]

Originally posted by: sc0tty8
Had ay beat by 3 min, so either your a slow typer, or just slow:beer:

I think the correct answer is, both.

EDIT: Yes, the PSU is probably fine, I just suggest watching the +12V rail to make certain. OldFart is also correct that you're at the point where you need to pump some extra voltage into that thing. I had the same ceiling around 266FSB IIRC. Everyone else is correct that it could simply be the limit of the CPU/MoBo combo (Ram aside), I've seen people with less o/c'able units. If you're looking to bump VCore, be careful of temps. Run Prime95 to check temps, 2 instances or else 1 with 3dMark03 looped to check stability.

 

[JackBurton]

God DOES hate you, he told me. Now enough about invisible people that live in the clouds, it has nothing to do with your overclock.

 

[sandorski]

God hates you and you ask us mere Mortals to help? :| No thanks!! :|

 

[infinite012]

It's a conspiracy against me today! First, I get told to go to church tomorrow. Then I go out to work, but the powers still out at CompUSA...THEN I come back home and these people from a local church (?) are wandering around my neighborhood and are like "Do you know that God loves you?" and I just stood there saying "yeah. uh-huh. yeah. interesting. yeah. no thanks."

Anyways, back on topic: Your PSU is fine for the time being. That overclock is NOTHING to be crying over and it MAY get better over time. I wasn't able to run 3.2GHz at ANY voltage 2 weeks ago, but now I'm running 3.3GHz at below default voltage 100% stable