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Go Green! Walk to football tailgate, pay $5 parking

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InflatableBuddha said:
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When I go to a stadium, I am forced to pay for the ticket (I can't just hang out for free, since I'm only allowed in when a game is on, and I have to pay to watch the game) and that should include the cost of all of the facilities such as the parking lot.
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Except parking, right?

The park should allow people with a ticket for the game into the tailgating area, it's part of the experience. No ticket = $5 admission.
 
I went to a lions game last year and parking was like 20 bucks and that was one of the cheaper lots away from the stadium. There was even some lots that wanted 50, for parking, f'n ridiculous. Like spending 50 for nosebleeds tickets, 10 bucks for a drink inside isn't enough, you get gouged for parking too. This is why I dont goto any games anymore, too expensive.
 
I am surprised that this kind of scheme to get more money from the fans did not come from Jerry Jones (owner/GM of the Cowboys).

Jerry has the ball to squeeze people into the balcony, stair, other transit areas (in which they have to stand for the whole game) and then charge them $50 a pop IIRC. Genius/greedy bastard.
 
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InflatableBuddha said:
And seriously, I would have gone home and not paid. He already paid for the ticket (which covers the cost of facilities at the stadium) and his friends already paid for the parking spot, so for them to try to extract more money for a "pedestrian fee" is bullshit.
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Unless the group of friends are all standing only in the parking spots that are paid for (that is, standing with the cars inside the lines of the spots) they are taking up additional space and using additional resources. The parking fee is for the parking spot, it doesn't effectively cover the marginal costs imposed by additional, perhaps excessive, numbers of people who are just walking up.

InflatableBuddha said:
What next? Are shopping malls going to start charging a "pedestrian fee" for you to enter them, even if you walk there or take transit (and thus don't use the parking lot)? I can imagine how popular that would be.
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There are several features here which distinguish the two situations. For malls, free parking is provided because they derive their income from renting space to businesses. Pedestrians at malls also truly do not impose any additional usage on the parking lots. In the case of the parking lot, the income comes directly for charging people for the right to occupy the land for a given time. People walking up to a tailgate party, are using the parking lot, but up until now they have been doing so without paying for that privilege. It would be a very strange tailgate party where the attendees somehow managed not to take up any space at all.

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If the hottest bars in town charge cover (without bands), why couldn't a tail gate area?
I see nothing wrong with it.

Go to the Muni-Lot instead...
 
Ugh ... pay for parking is bad, pay to walk onto a parking lot is worse. That said, I think the worst thing is the $7+ beers and the $3+ hot dogs...

I understand they want to make a profit, but, 30 cans of cheap beer costs $15, or approx 50 cents per beer, so, is 6 dollars and 50 cents markup for a single beer really necessary?

If I'm gonna pay $5+ for a beer, it better be in a really big glass, or, it had better be something really really good .... NOT some generic lager.
 
lol @ people believing that this fee is there to cover parking lot costs. The ownership just figured out a way to double or triple revenue from tailgating by sticking it to fans.

Basically, being an ardent fan to most pro football teams means you are willing to be shamelessly ripped off by an insanely rich plutocrat. If you're dumb enough to put up with it, I have little sympathy for you.
 
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BurnItDwn said:
Ugh ... pay for parking is bad, pay to walk onto a parking lot is worse. That said, I think the worst thing is the $7+ beers and the $3+ hot dogs...

I understand they want to make a profit, but, 30 cans of cheap beer costs $15, or approx 50 cents per beer, so, is 6 dollars and 50 cents markup for a single beer really necessary?

If I'm gonna pay $5+ for a beer, it better be in a really big glass, or, it had better be something really really good .... NOT some generic lager.
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If you do the real math it's actually even worse.

Cost on a keg of Bud Light is like $42.
# of 16 oz drinks in a keg is 124, allow 14 of these to be taken out due to overflow and bad poorage/spillage = 110

With 110 beers served, even at 16 ounces versus 12 in a can they pay $0.38 a beer.

110 x $6.50 = $715 - $42 = $673 profit

Guy working the beer booth works 4 hours at $7.50 x 4 = $30 which = $653 profit

Average # of beer stands at a football stadium = 350 x 2 kegs average in each stand = 700

700 x $653 = $457,100

And that is just the beer profit on any given Sunday.
 
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My question is, don't they already charge more for the "premium" tail gate spots in the first place? I know several places that do so. They make up the costs of cleanup and such by charging more the people that hold the tailgating parties. Not the attendees. This is just bad business.
 
HumblePie said:
My question is, don't they already charge more for the "premium" tail gate spots in the first place? I know several places that do so. They make up the costs of cleanup and such by charging more the people that hold the tailgating parties. Not the attendees. This is just bad business.
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They key to maximizing profits from pro sports is that you create a bunch of really ardent fans who will pay whatever ridiculous fees you charge & accept whatever bullshit excuse you use to justify them.
 
preslove said:
They key to maximizing profits from pro sports is that you create a bunch of really ardent fans who will pay whatever ridiculous fees you charge & accept whatever bullshit excuse you use to justify them.
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Exactly. That's also why it's so expensive and complicated getting all the NFL games on TV, and why licensed stuff is so overpriced, etc etc.

The only solution is to not be so big a fan.
 
HumblePie said:
My question is, don't they already charge more for the "premium" tail gate spots in the first place? I know several places that do so. They make up the costs of cleanup and such by charging more the people that hold the tailgating parties. Not the attendees. This is just bad business.
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Only for vehicles, or rather parking places. Not people, at least not at Mile High
 
AstroManLuca said:
Exactly. That's also why it's so expensive and complicated getting all the NFL games on TV, and why licensed stuff is so overpriced, etc etc.

The only solution is to not be so big a fan.
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srsly

There is no way in hell I could be convinced to give a real fuck about a pro football team.
 
AMDZen said:
If you do the real math it's actually even worse.

Cost on a keg of Bud Light is like $42.
# of 16 oz drinks in a keg is 124, allow 14 of these to be taken out due to overflow and bad poorage/spillage = 110

With 110 beers served, even at 16 ounces versus 12 in a can they pay $0.38 a beer.

110 x $6.50 = $715 - $42 = $673 profit

Guy working the beer booth works 4 hours at $7.50 x 4 = $30 which = $653 profit

Average # of beer stands at a football stadium = 350 x 2 kegs average in each stand = 700

700 x $653 = $457,100

And that is just the beer profit on any given Sunday.
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Yea, I didn't think about draft prices .... I wouldn't pay that kind of money for bud light ... it's just ... too similar to water, which costs like ... 3 cents a gallon. 🙂

Has even less flavor than regular Budweiser, which already doesn't have much flavor to begin with...
 
meh. who care's?

don't want to pay for it? don't go. I DO think that if you pay for a ticket you shouldn't have to pay to get into the tailgate party.
 
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