Gmail forwarding

[Muse]

I have a gmail account that's configured to forward messages to my account at my ISP. That's worked fine and I receive all the gmail traffic in my ISP inbox. However, I just changed ISPs, so I want to reconfigure my Gmail email address to forward to my new email address. However, I can't find where I do that. D: It's a damned slog and I can't figure it out at my Google account. Anybody got a clue about this?

 

[gevorg]

https://mail.google.com/mail/#settings/fwdandpop

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Why use your ISP account at all? Just configure your Outlook (or whatever) to pull mail from your gmail account.

 

[0roo0roo]

I have a gmail account that's configured to forward messages to my account at my ISP. That's worked fine and I receive all the gmail traffic in my ISP inbox. However, I just changed ISPs, so I want to reconfigure my Gmail email address to forward to my new email address. However, I can't find where I do that. D: It's a damned slog and I can't figure it out at my Google account. Anybody got a clue about this?

its easier to forward all pop to gmail accounts, you can do multiple that way.

 

[Leros]

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#settings/fwdandpop

 

[Fritzo]

Why use your ISP account at all? Just configure your Outlook (or whatever) to pull mail from your gmail account.

Pffttt....email clients are so 2002.

Gmail's interface is actually where it's at. I'd use that for my master email screen (you can even pop your mail from other accounts to Gmail).

 

[Ichinisan]

OP is doing it wrong.

As others have said, GET EVERYTHING INTO GMAIL!

If you're set on using an email client, use IMAP protocol (not POP) to access Gmail from a computer. Use Exchange / ActiveSync to access Gmail on mobile devices.

You have no idea how much I wish for the Gmail conversation view at work, where all I have is Outlook 2003.

 

[Muse]

Why use your ISP account at all? Just configure your Outlook (or whatever) to pull mail from your gmail account.

AFAIK my "whatever" only supports one account, which I use for my ISP account. I use Forte Agent 1.93x as my email/newsgroup client. I do not use Outlook.

 

[Muse]

Pffttt....email clients are so 2002.

Gmail's interface is actually where it's at. I'd use that for my master email screen (you can even pop your mail from other accounts to Gmail).

Wow, I had no idea. So, you're saying I should/can forward my ISP stuff to a gmail account? The one gmail handle I'm using I can't even find right now, maybe I set it up under a different user name, I have to look into that. When I log into my google account I can't find my one email handle... :'(

Edit: Um, then I can set up my email client on my home computers to download the gmail? I don't want to give up my email client because it has everything from the last 15 years or so and sorted into dozens of folders, also dozens of subscribed newsgroups including saved posts going way back. I don't want to lose that stuff or relegate it to a secondary resource. It's easier for me to keep it all in one place. Maybe I can convert it to receiving gmail and keep the same filters and sorting patterns. Right now I have an extra problem because the Forte Agent only (AFAIK) supports one account and I just changed ISPs. I can still access mail sent to my old ISP, but I have to have two separate instances of Forte Agent running to download and view posts to both ISPs. I guess as I get less and less stuff to my old ISP (I did change the great majority of my settings at various sites and posted family and friends, etc. about my new email address) I will have little need soon to see mail to my old ISP email address.

 

[Fritzo]

Wow, I had no idea. So, you're saying I should/can forward my ISP stuff to a gmail account? The one gmail handle I'm using I can't even find right now, maybe I set it up under a different user name, I have to look into that. When I log into my google account I can't find my one email handle... :'(

Edit: Um, then I can set up my email client on my home computers to download the gmail? I don't want to give up my email client because it has everything from the last 15 years or so and sorted into dozens of folders, also dozens of subscribed newsgroups including saved posts going way back. I don't want to lose that stuff or relegate it to a secondary resource. It's easier for me to keep it all in one place. Maybe I can convert it to receiving gmail and keep the same filters and sorting patterns. Right now I have an extra problem because the Forte Agent only (AFAIK) supports one account and I just changed ISPs. I can still access mail sent to my old ISP, but I have to have two separate instances of Forte Agent running to download and view posts to both ISPs. I guess as I get less and less stuff to my old ISP (I did change the great majority of my settings at various sites and posted family and friends, etc. about my new email address) I will have little need soon to see mail to my old ISP email address.

See, that's the hole you dig with email clients. If you use web based mail, your same mail, contacts, calendars, etc is with you from any computer anywhere you go.

I would get moving on importing everything if I were you.

 

[Ichinisan]

See, that's the hole you dig with email clients. If you use web based mail, your same mail, contacts, calendars, etc is with you from any computer anywhere you go.

I would get moving on importing everything if I were you.

This.

...and, FYI: IMAP makes this much easier.

Add your GMail account to your email client, using IMAP protocol, not POP. IMAP lets your mail client see "folders" that exist on the mail server. It will be tedious, but you need to do this at some point: For each of your local folders, create corresponding folders on Gmail's server and upload your POP messages there.

When you configure the Gmail site with POP settings to retrieve mail from your ISP, you can make it automatically label those messages. Gmail labels show up as "folders" when accessed via IMAP. Email clients allow you set download options for each IMAP folder ("All Messages," "Headers Only," etc). Because messages can exist in multiple folders at once, I suggest setting most of them to synchronize headers only (conserve storage space on your computer).

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Added more advice.

 

[Ichinisan]

I looked up "Forte Agent". It appears to have a horrible interface. This is probably the same thing as Eudora syndrome: People keep using the horrible interface because they're familiar with it.

 

[Muse]

See, that's the hole you dig with email clients. If you use web based mail, your same mail, contacts, calendars, etc is with you from any computer anywhere you go.

I would get moving on importing everything if I were you.

Alright, I'll look into this. Can I work out complex filtering into folders with rules using web based email? Is there a way I can move the data I have into a web based system? I'm also wondering if it's possible to integrate a web based email system with newsgroups, which I pretty much have with my current email client.

I've been using a separate installation on each of my 4 machines at home. This app is very easily cloned and moved, it has no registry settings, you can just plop it down anywhere. I even had a single instance working on my server machine, which I could do now, only thing is you have to close access to it on all machines before you can open it anywhere. That and the fact that a network snafu can corrupt data is the reason I've been reticent to run a single instance on my "server" machine. What I've been doing is leaving email messages on my ISP server and not deleting them until I have downloaded them to each of my machines, something of a hassle, however it ensures that I have all my data and am certainly backed up.

 

[Muse]

This.

...and, FYI: IMAP makes this much easier.

Add your GMail account to your email client, using IMAP protocol, not POP. IMAP lets your mail client see "folders" that exist on the mail server. It will be tedious, but you need to do this at some point: For each of your local folders, create corresponding folders on Gmail's server and upload your POP messages there.

When you configure the Gmail site with POP settings to retrieve mail from your ISP, you can make it automatically label those messages. Gmail labels show up as "folders" when accessed via IMAP. Email clients allow you set download options for each IMAP folder ("All Messages," "Headers Only," etc). Because messages can exist in multiple folders at once, I suggest setting most of them to synchronize headers only (conserve storage space on your computer).

[edit]
Added more advice.

Cool. Thanks for the details, I'll dig into this stuff in the days ahead, probably post here for some pointers. :thumbsup:

 

[Fritzo]

Alright, I'll look into this. Can I work out complex filtering into folders with rules using web based email? Is there a way I can move the data I have into a web based system? I'm also wondering if it's possible to integrate a web based email system with newsgroups, which I pretty much have with my current email client.

I've been using a separate installation on each of my 4 machines at home. This app is very easily cloned and moved, it has no registry settings, you can just plop it down anywhere. I even had a single instance working on my server machine, which I could do now, only thing is you have to close access to it on all machines before you can open it anywhere. That and the fact that a network snafu can corrupt data is the reason I've been reticent to run a single instance on my "server" machine. What I've been doing is leaving email messages on my ISP server and not deleting them until I have downloaded them to each of my machines, something of a hassle, however it ensures that I have all my data and am certainly backed up.

You can set up rules and labels to do all of that easily. You'll be much happier and more efficient when you're done.

 

[Ichinisan]

You can set up rules and labels to do all of that easily. You'll be much happier and more efficient when you're done.

This.

Gmail labels and conversation threads (web interface only) are far better than any email client. The rules also support wildcard characters (like "amazon*@*marketplace.amazon.co*").

Another big plus of Gmail's web interface: An email client takes ages to search messages, but Gmail's web interface finds them INSTANTLY when I type any search term from any part of the message.

My only problem with the Gmail web interface is I can't press Ctrl+Enter to send. Most webmail supports the shortcut so it works the same way as an email client. It's OK, though, because I'm already used to pressing Tab, Space from other things.

 

[Lifted]

You have no idea how much I wish for the Gmail conversation view at work, where all I have is Outlook 2003.

Outlook 2010 and Outlook Web Access 2010 have a "Conversation" view.

 

[dawks]

See, that's the hole you dig with email clients. If you use web based mail, your same mail, contacts, calendars, etc is with you from any computer anywhere you go.

I would get moving on importing everything if I were you.

Yea the OP has it completely backward.

I forward my school, work, and two old personal accounts to my Gmail. Everything is centralized there, then I use IMAP on my iPhone, iPad, and Mail.app on my Desktop and Laptop. The beauty of this setup is, my email is the same on every device. And its available anywhere there is an internet connection (even if I dont have my devices with me I can use fantastic webmail and still get ALL of my email).

I have a bunch of labels (folders) set up with a TON of rules to streamline the process too. Just added to Gmail is nested labels! Yay!!

If I were doing it the OPs way, I'd be fearful of loosing everything too since its so centralized. Though I guess we should have some caution putting so much faith in Google too.

 

[Ichinisan]

Outlook 2010 and Outlook Web Access 2010 have a "Conversation" view.

I've used it in Outlook 2003. It's not the same...AT ALL.

Specifically, deleting a conversation from my Inbox from Outlook doesn't delete the other half of the conversation in my Sent Mail folder.

 

[Ichinisan]

... then I use IMAP on my iPhone, iPad, ...

Pro tip: Use Microsoft Exchange / ActiveSync protocol on your iOS devices.

-Instant "push" updates
-Simpler to configure (no need to configure separate settings for outgoing mail, display name, port numbers, security, ...)
-Synchronize contacts and calendars with Gmail