"GM says Toyota quality is down" from CNN

[TomKazansky]

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: infestedgh0st

Originally posted by: Legend

the toyota you see in united states is made in united states, making it "an american car"

It's not that we can't make a car as well as the Japanese. It's a work ethic thing. Toyota/Honda don't hire lazy Union workers.

not just that, the quality and the finesse of japanese products cannot be matched by americans.

i do admit that the lexus gx470, and the toyota sequoia (both derivatives) have major issues. and people have been complaining about them.

and clublexus.com does have people asking questions about their cars (duh, that's what a forum is for). half of them are modified lexus, and a 1/4 of them are at a mileage that most american cars cannot surpass. lexus quality cannot be beat (even by porsches).

That's not saying too much...

that's just saying that you don't know crap about porsches.
porsche has been one of the most reliable car builder around.

 

[Theguynextdoor]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: shilala
Who'd have that Jap shyt in their driveway anyway?

Oh, please. Japanese cars are *vastly* superior in quality and design to tha CRAP that the US companies sell. The US hasn't made a great mainstream automotive design since the '60's.

I'd take a Prius over anything GM or Ford manufactures today.

Jason

You do that. :beer: It is a great little car. But not my choice. I'd *maybe* think about it if it got anywhere remotely close to the estimated MPG.

 

[Theguynextdoor]

Originally posted by: infestedgh0st

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: infestedgh0st

Originally posted by: Legend

the toyota you see in united states is made in united states, making it "an american car"

It's not that we can't make a car as well as the Japanese. It's a work ethic thing. Toyota/Honda don't hire lazy Union workers.

not just that, the quality and the finesse of japanese products cannot be matched by americans.

i do admit that the lexus gx470, and the toyota sequoia (both derivatives) have major issues. and people have been complaining about them.

and clublexus.com does have people asking questions about their cars (duh, that's what a forum is for). half of them are modified lexus, and a 1/4 of them are at a mileage that most american cars cannot surpass. lexus quality cannot be beat (even by porsches).

That's not saying too much...

that's just saying that you don't know crap about porsches.

Been to a Porsche forum lately?

Edit for your edit: You keep telling yourself that bud. :beer:

 

[TomKazansky]

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: infestedgh0st

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: infestedgh0st

Originally posted by: Legend

the toyota you see in united states is made in united states, making it "an american car"

It's not that we can't make a car as well as the Japanese. It's a work ethic thing. Toyota/Honda don't hire lazy Union workers.

not just that, the quality and the finesse of japanese products cannot be matched by americans.

i do admit that the lexus gx470, and the toyota sequoia (both derivatives) have major issues. and people have been complaining about them.

and clublexus.com does have people asking questions about their cars (duh, that's what a forum is for). half of them are modified lexus, and a 1/4 of them are at a mileage that most american cars cannot surpass. lexus quality cannot be beat (even by porsches).

That's not saying too much...

that's just saying that you don't know crap about porsches.

Been to a Porsche forum lately?

if you count boxsters as porsches, then no.

 

[Theguynextdoor]

Originally posted by: redgtxdi
I'm not gonna read thru the whole post to find out if this was said.........but........

It's certainly not the U.S. carmakers the Japanese need to be worried about.....(Toyota in particular whose fleet is DEFINITELY suffering in fit/finish).........it's the KOREANS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Watch out Toyota, here comes Hyundai/Kia.....(and Toyota knows it too)

Of all the Toyota's my dad's company and my company have gone thru in the last several years, I can tell you honestly that circa 2000 was when the cars headed downhill. I don't know what the deal is, but if you don't believe me, I'll offer you a heads up here, if only in the fit & finish dept.

Go to your local Toyota dealer and look the exterior seams and interior seams over very well. (Don't worry.....you won't miss it 'cuz it's gonna catch your attention). You'll notice that things are not good in this dept.

Then, take a walk over to Nissan, Mazda, then later go to Hyundai/Kia and report back what you find.

The results will probably shock die hard Toyota lovers......(like myself). I'm not slamming Toyota for no reason. I love their cars and their engineering to death, but something's gotta change.

Damn give this man a :beer:!

He can see OUTSIDE the box!

 

[Theguynextdoor]

Originally posted by: infestedgh0st

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: infestedgh0st

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: infestedgh0st

Originally posted by: Legend

the toyota you see in united states is made in united states, making it "an american car"

It's not that we can't make a car as well as the Japanese. It's a work ethic thing. Toyota/Honda don't hire lazy Union workers.

not just that, the quality and the finesse of japanese products cannot be matched by americans.

i do admit that the lexus gx470, and the toyota sequoia (both derivatives) have major issues. and people have been complaining about them.

and clublexus.com does have people asking questions about their cars (duh, that's what a forum is for). half of them are modified lexus, and a 1/4 of them are at a mileage that most american cars cannot surpass. lexus quality cannot be beat (even by porsches).

That's not saying too much...

that's just saying that you don't know crap about porsches.

Been to a Porsche forum lately?

if you count boxsters as porsches, then no.

It has a Porsche badge on it no?

 

[TomKazansky]

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: infestedgh0st

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: infestedgh0st

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: infestedgh0st

Originally posted by: Legend

the toyota you see in united states is made in united states, making it "an american car"

It's not that we can't make a car as well as the Japanese. It's a work ethic thing. Toyota/Honda don't hire lazy Union workers.

not just that, the quality and the finesse of japanese products cannot be matched by americans.

i do admit that the lexus gx470, and the toyota sequoia (both derivatives) have major issues. and people have been complaining about them.

and clublexus.com does have people asking questions about their cars (duh, that's what a forum is for). half of them are modified lexus, and a 1/4 of them are at a mileage that most american cars cannot surpass. lexus quality cannot be beat (even by porsches).

That's not saying too much...

that's just saying that you don't know crap about porsches.

Been to a Porsche forum lately?

if you count boxsters as porsches, then no.

It has a Porsche badge on it no?

i dont' count boxster as a porsche. that pos doesn't deserve the shield.

cayenne non-s (v6) also, both pos.

but if you must count them both as posrches, then yes they are porsches. However i will assure you that 911 is the most reliable high performance sportscar you may find on the market. compare porsche quality to any other american/european car maker, they're the best.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: SeaMonki
Topic Title: "GM says Toyota quality is down"

Bahahahaha It is hysterical to hear the crap coming out of that doomed Company.

Keep making the Gas guzzling SUV's insane GM execs.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor
Consumer Reports is full of siht. The only review I ever use from it are the ones on disposable items. Their blatant tree-huggin, mostly anti-american anything dissapoints me. Yeah this japenese car is just as good as it's american version, but because it's japenese it's better.

Examples: Ford Probe, Mazda 625. Toyota corolla and geo prism.

The ford probe had more reliability problems than the 625, specifically, transmission.

Edit: i also know they were essentially the same car.

 

[Theguynextdoor]

Originally posted by: infestedgh0st

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: infestedgh0st

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: infestedgh0st

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: infestedgh0st

Originally posted by: Legend

the toyota you see in united states is made in united states, making it "an american car"

It's not that we can't make a car as well as the Japanese. It's a work ethic thing. Toyota/Honda don't hire lazy Union workers.

not just that, the quality and the finesse of japanese products cannot be matched by americans.

i do admit that the lexus gx470, and the toyota sequoia (both derivatives) have major issues. and people have been complaining about them.

and clublexus.com does have people asking questions about their cars (duh, that's what a forum is for). half of them are modified lexus, and a 1/4 of them are at a mileage that most american cars cannot surpass. lexus quality cannot be beat (even by porsches).

That's not saying too much...

that's just saying that you don't know crap about porsches.

Been to a Porsche forum lately?

if you count boxsters as porsches, then no.

It has a Porsche badge on it no?

i dont' count boxster as a porsche. that pos doesn't deserve the shield.

cayenne non-s (v6) also, both pos.

but if you must count them both as posrches, then yes they are porsches. However i will assure you that 911 is the most reliable high performance sportscar you may find on the market. compare porsche quality to any other american/european car maker, they're the best.

My five year old performance car makes a 400mi trip every weekend regularly. It's also my DD because at my age I can only afford to get only one car at a time. It's comfortable like the average car, I can haul a ton of stuff in the huge trunk, seat comfortably my best friend who's 6' 6" in passenger or driver. I can remove the roof if it get hot. Handles great, close to a 911, but not quite there. Acclerates better though.
Gets 30 MPG HW, 20 City. Oh and guess what? It's an American car.

However I will give the Porsche one thing. It has a great interior and QC is very high. Much Much Much higher then mine. I wouldn't mind a 940S, or a CarreraGT. :beer:

BTW you can ask the other couple thousand or so people who've had my model over 150kmi by now here.

 

[Theguynextdoor]

Gonna take a nap, be back in a few guys.

:beer: