GM Says Many Powertrains Coming

[NFS4]

http://www.thecarconnection.co...&sid=173&n=156

General Motors says its plans for new engines and transmissions will result in 50 new engine variants and 10 new six-speed automatic transmission variants in the next few years. The company told journalists assembled inFrance on a background event that the engines would include a new turbocharged 2.8-liter V-6 that will show up in the 2006 Saab 9-3, and will produce 250 hp of power and 258 lb-ft of torque. The new engine will be produced at Holden's Port Melbourne engine plant, where the related 3.6-liter version of the V-6 is made. GM also has plans for a new 5.3-liter V-8 engine developed specifically for front-drive applications; the transverse V-8 will put out 290 hp and 325 lb-ft of torque. The new six-speed transmissions will include gearboxes made for both front- and rear-wheel drive; GM says that by 2008 it will be producing more than one million six-speed transmissions per year. And finally, GM says by 2007 it will have a hybrid system for its SUV V-8 engines that will combine displacement on demand technology with a strong hybrid system to boost the fuel economy of its big SUVs by 25 percent, while retaining towing performance.

5.3 liter transverse V8 with 290/325 in FWD. WTF?

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: NFS4
http://www.thecarconnection.co...&sid=173&n=156

General Motors says its plans for new engines and transmissions will result in 50 new engine variants and 10 new six-speed automatic transmission variants in the next few years. The company told journalists assembled inFrance on a background event that the engines would include a new turbocharged 2.8-liter V-6 that will show up in the 2006 Saab 9-3, and will produce 250 hp of power and 258 lb-ft of torque. The new engine will be produced at Holden's Port Melbourne engine plant, where the related 3.6-liter version of the V-6 is made. GM also has plans for a new 5.3-liter V-8 engine developed specifically for front-drive applications; the transverse V-8 will put out 290 hp and 325 lb-ft of torque. The new six-speed transmissions will include gearboxes made for both front- and rear-wheel drive; GM says that by 2008 it will be producing more than one million six-speed transmissions per year. And finally, GM says by 2007 it will have a hybrid system for its SUV V-8 engines that will combine displacement on demand technology with a strong hybrid system to boost the fuel economy of its big SUVs by 25 percent, while retaining towing performance.

5.3 liter transvere V8 with only 290HP. WTF?

That doesn't seem that unreasonable, stock LS1 is 5.7L & doesn't get that much more than that, especially in low level configurations (Z28).

Viper GTS

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: NFS4
http://www.thecarconnection.co...&sid=173&n=156

General Motors says its plans for new engines and transmissions will result in 50 new engine variants and 10 new six-speed automatic transmission variants in the next few years. The company told journalists assembled inFrance on a background event that the engines would include a new turbocharged 2.8-liter V-6 that will show up in the 2006 Saab 9-3, and will produce 250 hp of power and 258 lb-ft of torque. The new engine will be produced at Holden's Port Melbourne engine plant, where the related 3.6-liter version of the V-6 is made. GM also has plans for a new 5.3-liter V-8 engine developed specifically for front-drive applications; the transverse V-8 will put out 290 hp and 325 lb-ft of torque. The new six-speed transmissions will include gearboxes made for both front- and rear-wheel drive; GM says that by 2008 it will be producing more than one million six-speed transmissions per year. And finally, GM says by 2007 it will have a hybrid system for its SUV V-8 engines that will combine displacement on demand technology with a strong hybrid system to boost the fuel economy of its big SUVs by 25 percent, while retaining towing performance.

5.3 liter transvere V8 with only 290HP. WTF?

That doesn't seem that unreasonable, stock LS1 is 5.7L & doesn't get that much more than that, especially in low level configurations (Z28).

Viper GTS

It's not so much the power that I'm concerned with...but that last thing we need are some landbarge V8 FWD sedans plowing around. TORQUE STEER HERE WE COME!!!

 

[Demon-Xanth]

The Northstar makes 300HP and it doesn't have alot of problems, unlike Nissan.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
The Northstar makes 300HP and it doesn't have alot of problems, unlike Nissan.

And Caddy went from FWD to RWD with their new STS. If a sedan is large enough to be able to handle a V8 transversely, it should be RWD anyway.

 

[TheAudit]

Originally posted by: NFS4
http://www.thecarconnection.co...&sid=173&n=156

General Motors says its plans for new engines and transmissions will result in 50 new engine variants and 10 new six-speed automatic transmission variants in the next few years. The company told journalists assembled inFrance on a background event that the engines would include a new turbocharged 2.8-liter V-6 that will show up in the 2006 Saab 9-3, and will produce 250 hp of power and 258 lb-ft of torque. The new engine will be produced at Holden's Port Melbourne engine plant, where the related 3.6-liter version of the V-6 is made. GM also has plans for a new 5.3-liter V-8 engine developed specifically for front-drive applications; the transverse V-8 will put out 290 hp and 325 lb-ft of torque. The new six-speed transmissions will include gearboxes made for both front- and rear-wheel drive; GM says that by 2008 it will be producing more than one million six-speed transmissions per year. And finally, GM says by 2007 it will have a hybrid system for its SUV V-8 engines that will combine displacement on demand technology with a strong hybrid system to boost the fuel economy of its big SUVs by 25 percent, while retaining towing performance.

5.3 liter transvere V8 with only 290HP. WTF?

5.3 V8 with 325 lb-ft of torque in front wheel drive? WTF?

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: NFS4
http://www.thecarconnection.co...&sid=173&n=156

General Motors says its plans for new engines and transmissions will result in 50 new engine variants and 10 new six-speed automatic transmission variants in the next few years. The company told journalists assembled inFrance on a background event that the engines would include a new turbocharged 2.8-liter V-6 that will show up in the 2006 Saab 9-3, and will produce 250 hp of power and 258 lb-ft of torque. The new engine will be produced at Holden's Port Melbourne engine plant, where the related 3.6-liter version of the V-6 is made. GM also has plans for a new 5.3-liter V-8 engine developed specifically for front-drive applications; the transverse V-8 will put out 290 hp and 325 lb-ft of torque. The new six-speed transmissions will include gearboxes made for both front- and rear-wheel drive; GM says that by 2008 it will be producing more than one million six-speed transmissions per year. And finally, GM says by 2007 it will have a hybrid system for its SUV V-8 engines that will combine displacement on demand technology with a strong hybrid system to boost the fuel economy of its big SUVs by 25 percent, while retaining towing performance.

5.3 liter transverse V8 with only 290HP in FWD. WTF?

funny how you say 'only' here, but in the next post complain about torque steer.

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
The Northstar makes 300HP and it doesn't have alot of problems, unlike Nissan.

And Caddy went from FWD to RWD with their new STS. If a sedan is large enough to be able to handle a V8 transversely, it should be RWD anyway.

A tranversely mounted V8 and RWD doesn't add up. Maybe that was not the point of your post.

 

[DougK62]

Blah blah blah - that 5.3 V8 isn't the big news. That 2.8T V6 is going to be REALLY hot.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
The Northstar makes 300HP and it doesn't have alot of problems, unlike Nissan.

And Caddy went from FWD to RWD with their new STS. If a sedan is large enough to be able to handle a V8 transversely, it should be RWD anyway.

A tranversely mounted V8 and RWD doesn't add up. Maybe that was not the point of your post.

The point of my post is that if a sedan is large enough to handle a V8 transversely (meaning wide enough to accept the V8 transversely and then long enough to balance out the proportions of the car), then it should be RWD (longitudinal) in the first place.

Big Car/V8 = RWD IMHO. Even Cadillac is putting the new Deville on a RWD Sigma chassis

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Transversely mounted RWD Cadillac (sort of)

 

[RU482]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Transversely mounted RWD Cadillac (sort of)

that site is obnoxious

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Transversely mounted RWD Cadillac (sort of)

Hasn't there been a production car that was longitudinal/FWD? I swear there was but now I can't remember...

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Cadillac's 502 was transverse+FWD, so was the Old Toronado.

 

[NetWareHead]

correction: caddy made a 500 cube V8. a 502 is a chevy big-block

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: NFS4
http://www.thecarconnection.co...&sid=173&n=156

General Motors says its plans for new engines and transmissions will result in 50 new engine variants and 10 new six-speed automatic transmission variants in the next few years. The company told journalists assembled inFrance on a background event that the engines would include a new turbocharged 2.8-liter V-6 that will show up in the 2006 Saab 9-3, and will produce 250 hp of power and 258 lb-ft of torque. The new engine will be produced at Holden's Port Melbourne engine plant, where the related 3.6-liter version of the V-6 is made. GM also has plans for a new 5.3-liter V-8 engine developed specifically for front-drive applications; the transverse V-8 will put out 290 hp and 325 lb-ft of torque. The new six-speed transmissions will include gearboxes made for both front- and rear-wheel drive; GM says that by 2008 it will be producing more than one million six-speed transmissions per year. And finally, GM says by 2007 it will have a hybrid system for its SUV V-8 engines that will combine displacement on demand technology with a strong hybrid system to boost the fuel economy of its big SUVs by 25 percent, while retaining towing performance.

5.3 liter transverse V8 with 290/325 in FWD. WTF?

oo 25% boost on big suv gas mileage, thats like what 4 mpg?

MIKE

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: NetWareHead
correction: caddy made a 500 cube V8. a 502 is a chevy big-block

Ahh, I thought they were the same displacement for some reason.

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Cadillac's 502 was transverse+FWD, so was the Old Toronado.

That's not what I asked. There was a production car that was longitudinal+FWD.

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Cadillac's 502 was transverse+FWD, so was the Old Toronado.

That's not what I asked. There was a production car that was longitudinal+FWD.

Ah - I remembered. Dodge Intrepid. Weird setup.

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: DougK62
Blah blah blah - that 5.3 V8 isn't the big news. That 2.8T V6 is going to be REALLY hot.

I don't see why. Saab already has a 2.3 liter 4-cylinder turbo that makes exactly the same horsepower and torque. leave it to GM to require more cylinders and displacement to accomplish what other companies did with less, years ago. oh yeah, it makes its max torque at 1900 RPM, too, so no "torque-less wonder" whining, either.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: NFS4
http://www.thecarconnection.co...&sid=173&n=156

General Motors says its plans for new engines and transmissions will result in 50 new engine variants and 10 new six-speed automatic transmission variants in the next few years. The company told journalists assembled inFrance on a background event that the engines would include a new turbocharged 2.8-liter V-6 that will show up in the 2006 Saab 9-3, and will produce 250 hp of power and 258 lb-ft of torque. The new engine will be produced at Holden's Port Melbourne engine plant, where the related 3.6-liter version of the V-6 is made. GM also has plans for a new 5.3-liter V-8 engine developed specifically for front-drive applications; the transverse V-8 will put out 290 hp and 325 lb-ft of torque. The new six-speed transmissions will include gearboxes made for both front- and rear-wheel drive; GM says that by 2008 it will be producing more than one million six-speed transmissions per year. And finally, GM says by 2007 it will have a hybrid system for its SUV V-8 engines that will combine displacement on demand technology with a strong hybrid system to boost the fuel economy of its big SUVs by 25 percent, while retaining towing performance.

5.3 liter transvere V8 with only 290HP. WTF?

That doesn't seem that unreasonable, stock LS1 is 5.7L & doesn't get that much more than that, especially in low level configurations (Z28).

Viper GTS

It's not so much the power that I'm concerned with...but that last thing we need are some landbarge V8 FWD sedans plowing around. TORQUE STEER HERE WE COME!!!

I get Torque steer in my 2k4 Impala SS . I could just imagine what it would be like in a V8!

Ausm

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: DougK62
Blah blah blah - that 5.3 V8 isn't the big news. That 2.8T V6 is going to be REALLY hot.

I don't see why. Saab already has a 2.3 liter 4-cylinder turbo that makes exactly the same horsepower and torque. leave it to GM to require more cylinders and displacement to accomplish what other companies did with less, years ago. oh yeah, it makes its max torque at 1900 RPM, too, so no "torque-less wonder" whining, either.

The only, and I mean ONLY, reason they put a 6-cyl in the SAAB was the US market. Here a 6-cyl > 4-cyl not matter what. Prestige brands 'require' +6 cylinder engines in the US.

 

[SilverTorch]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: NFS4
http://www.thecarconnection.co...&sid=173&n=156

General Motors says its plans for new engines and transmissions will result in 50 new engine variants and 10 new six-speed automatic transmission variants in the next few years. The company told journalists assembled inFrance on a background event that the engines would include a new turbocharged 2.8-liter V-6 that will show up in the 2006 Saab 9-3, and will produce 250 hp of power and 258 lb-ft of torque. The new engine will be produced at Holden's Port Melbourne engine plant, where the related 3.6-liter version of the V-6 is made. GM also has plans for a new 5.3-liter V-8 engine developed specifically for front-drive applications; the transverse V-8 will put out 290 hp and 325 lb-ft of torque. The new six-speed transmissions will include gearboxes made for both front- and rear-wheel drive; GM says that by 2008 it will be producing more than one million six-speed transmissions per year. And finally, GM says by 2007 it will have a hybrid system for its SUV V-8 engines that will combine displacement on demand technology with a strong hybrid system to boost the fuel economy of its big SUVs by 25 percent, while retaining towing performance.

5.3 liter transvere V8 with only 290HP. WTF?

That doesn't seem that unreasonable, stock LS1 is 5.7L & doesn't get that much more than that, especially in low level configurations (Z28).

Viper GTS

It's not so much the power that I'm concerned with...but that last thing we need are some landbarge V8 FWD sedans plowing around. TORQUE STEER HERE WE COME!!!

It will take GM a few years, but they'll throw an LSD at that trans eventually

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Cadillac's 502 was transverse+FWD, so was the Old Toronado.

That's not what I asked. There was a production car that was longitudinal+FWD.

Holy crap was I asleep this morning. I ment longitudinal+FWD. I don't think a big block could fit sideways.

 

[Viperoni]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: DougK62
Blah blah blah - that 5.3 V8 isn't the big news. That 2.8T V6 is going to be REALLY hot.

I don't see why. Saab already has a 2.3 liter 4-cylinder turbo that makes exactly the same horsepower and torque. leave it to GM to require more cylinders and displacement to accomplish what other companies did with less, years ago. oh yeah, it makes its max torque at 1900 RPM, too, so no "torque-less wonder" whining, either.

Some wierd stigma of turbo's.

Chrysler did them well in the early 90's