GM says it has no fix yet for some recalled Cadillacs with switch issues

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LTC8K6

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Well, you'd think GM would have a plan by now. I guess not.

Looks like altering the key isn't always going to work.

Even a different switch apparently is no guarantee that your car won't suddenly shut off on you.

DETROIT (Reuters) - General Motors Co (GM.N) has ordered Cadillac dealers to stop selling some versions of the CTS model-range because the automaker does not have a fix yet for cars recalled in late June over an issue where engines can be shut off if the driver's knee bumps the ignition key, the company said on Saturday.

Details of incidents leading up to the June 30 recall, including three occasions where GM employees bumped the keys and shut off the engines in 2012 CTSs, were made public on Saturday by the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, which oversees safety recalls.

The so-called stop sale order to Cadillac dealers on the 2003-2014 CTS and 2004-2006 SRX was issued July 2 and updated July 8, according to GM documents posted by NHTSA. The recall involved about 554,000 Cadillacs in the United States.

The order "is still in effect for the foreseeable future," GM spokesman Alan Adler said on Saturday. GM engineers are "looking at one common solution" for all the recalled Cadillacs, "but they don't have it yet," Adler said.

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GM has a different problem with second-generation CTSs from model years 2008-2014, which use a different ignition switch than earlier models. Even after GM shifted to keys with the small hole in late 2010, the cars still displayed a susceptibility to being switched off because of a knee bump.

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pcgeek11

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GM is so screwed up. I do not see how they are ever going to dig out of this massive hole they have created for themselves.

How could anyone convince themselves to buy one after all of this?
 

mmntech

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Push to start problem solved.

I'm sure they'd find a way to screw that up too. "Well, our sensor that detects the FOB is faulty, causing the ignition to lock out while the car is in motion". :p

I wonder how much GM actually saved knowingly putting inferior parts into their vehicles, versus how much they're now spending to fix them. Shortsightedness at its finest.
 

WackyDan

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GM is so screwed up. I do not see how they are ever going to dig out of this massive hole they have created for themselves.

How could anyone convince themselves to buy one after all of this?

Old friend just bought his wife a new 2014 Traverse. Upgraded from a 2010.

I can't fathom it either. People are pretty interesting when it comes to purchasing and brands. They'll research a $200 phone and such, paying great attention to the reviews, reputation of the brand and support, but not give a flying fuck when it comes to spending $20k+ on a vehicle.
 

cabri

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Old friend just bought his wife a new 2014 Traverse. Upgraded from a 2010.

I can't fathom it either. People are pretty interesting when it comes to purchasing and brands. They'll research a $200 phone and such, paying great attention to the reviews, reputation of the brand and support, but not give a flying fuck when it comes to spending $20k+ on a vehicle.

People expect that when that large amount of $$ is sunk into a vehicle that it will work perfectly according to the warranty length. It does not matter if the warranty has escape clauses; they look at the longest time and go from there.
10yrs/100K miles to them means that is what the vehicle will be good for without any flaws. Recalls are only an inconvienence that happens to others and are corrected (not necessarily fixed) at no charge.
 

WackyDan

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People expect that when that large amount of $$ is sunk into a vehicle that it will work perfectly according to the warranty length. It does not matter if the warranty has escape clauses; they look at the longest time and go from there.
10yrs/100K miles to them means that is what the vehicle will be good for without any flaws. Recalls are only an inconvienence that happens to others and are corrected (not necessarily fixed) at no charge.

When a company like GM has shown such negligence in regard to consumer safety - specifically with the ignition switches, I would think that would matter.

When they are pushing a victim's fund using their own metrics for compensation but forcing all law suits associated with death and injuries against the old GM that has no or limited assets... That smells to high hell. They'll recall and fix product that the old company produced while not taking full financial liability for them.

Sorry. GM will never sell my family another product. EVER.
 
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