No, there isn't actually. But then you probably think that the misinformation spewing shills that get air time these days are credible sources, so that's why you'd say something like that.
No, there isn't actually. But then you probably think that the misinformation spewing shills that get air time these days are credible sources, so that's why you'd say something like that.
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..the UN and the IPCC is distancing them selves from american histerics and enviro wacko alarmists and has largely concluded the issue is greatly overstated. Worst case senerios come no where near algores alarmist retoric in his sleazy video.
....you've bought into the enviro wacko fear mongering that every unseasoal warm or cool day is symptomatic of the sky falling. And the lap dog media spins it all with their voodo computer projections and powerpoint graphs and charts. And the enviro wacko's suggest it's your behavior that's causing the unseasonal weather. They can hardly predict the weather from one week to the next..and now the're trying to tell us what's going to happen 100 years from now?? and we're supposed to un plug industry and ride bicycles to work every day and radically change our energy use to satisfy their goofy computer games and powerpoints??
"Also, the IPCC will cut in half its worst-case scenarios for sea level increases. Even if everything that can go wrong does go wrong, IPCC predicts merely a foot-and-a-half of sea level rise throughout the next century. This is in marked contrast to speculation in Al Gore's film, "An Inconvenient Truth," that sea levels would rise 20 feet.
"Even as the alarmists continue to misstate facts and cherry-pick various local datasets to give a false impression of imminent climate catastrophe, it appears even the UN is realizing the sky is not falling."
....you've bought into the enviro wacko fear mongering that every unseasoal warm or cool day is symptomatic of the sky falling. And the lap dog media spins it all with their voodo computer projections and powerpoint graphs and charts. And the enviro wacko's suggest it's your behavior that's causing the unseasonal weather. They can hardly predict the weather from one week to the next..and now the're trying to tell us what's going to happen 100 years from now?? and we're supposed to un plug industry and ride bicycles to work every day and radically change our energy use to satisfy their goofy computer games and powerpoints??
"Also, the IPCC will cut in half its worst-case scenarios for sea level increases. Even if everything that can go wrong does go wrong, IPCC predicts merely a foot-and-a-half of sea level rise throughout the next century. This is in marked contrast to speculation in Al Gore's film, "An Inconvenient Truth," that sea levels would rise 20 feet.
"Even as the alarmists continue to misstate facts and cherry-pick various local datasets to give a false impression of imminent climate catastrophe, it appears even the UN is realizing the sky is not falling."
Xenu is returning. He's going to destroy the Earth. If you make a small donation to the Church of Scientology you may survive.
Anthroprogenic emissions = more C02 in atmosphere = more blockage of longwave radiation = global warming.
I don't think anyone here is qualified to answer this. It really doesn't matter what we think. Talk to someone who has been doing long term research in this field, rather than us people who are just going to reiterate the crap we read elsewhere.
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you also had an article a couple days ago about an the largest ice shelf in canada 'disappearing.' did it really disappear? no. it just broke off and is floating in the ocean. but you'd have to read the article pretty thoroughly to figure that out. the rush to report the next big disaster in this country is really sickening.
The question is are we releasing enough gas to cause global warming and is that gas even staying is the atmosphere or does the earth have a geological sink for it. One thing I never understood is that the CO2 concentration has gone up in the atmosphere disproportionate to its input.
"The people who deny that CO2 emissions warm the earth are the same people who believe that the Cuyahoga River in 1969 caught fire due to natural causes.'
What evidence exists for this?
What evidence exists for this?
"Do you really think pumping shitloads of CO2 into the atmosphere is particularly good for the Earth, global warming or not?"
It might be in ways we don't understand yet or it might not. the environment is very complex. If ice caps melt then there may be an increase in the oceans surface area. That may flood land but the greater surface area may allow for photosynthetic algae to grow and thus produce more oxygen. How will that affect us....
...you get the idea. The environment is way to complex to jump to conclusions.
It might be in ways we don't understand yet or it might not. the environment is very complex. If ice caps melt then there may be an increase in the oceans surface area. That may flood land but the greater surface area may allow for photosynthetic algae to grow and thus produce more oxygen. How will that affect us....
...you get the idea. The environment is way to complex to jump to conclusions.
HAHAHAHAHAH. Learn earth science kthx. Increasing the temperature of the earth decreases the effectiveness of the solubility pump and increases stratification. Also, the ocean will eventually reach saturation, leaving the atmosphere as the only other carbon sink.
you are right, in that paper i wrote I pointed out how in the 70's the UN used a computer model to predict temperatures. Not only was the prediction of the EXACT OPPOSITE of what the model predicted happened. This computer model was created by some of the best mind from all around the world. Lesson learned: enviornment is far too complex to accurately predict. I'll see if i could dig up that paper I wrote and post it. I would appreciate some criticism.
Than why is it that the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere increase only slightly when emissions increased greatly (i.e the CO2 concentration is going up at a steady level between 1700-1800 and then the industrial revolution happens and the rate of increase does not change. Its not that simple.
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You don't know if the ocean is the only geological sink and you don't know how ling it will take to saturate, and how long the reservoir time is. Increase in oxygen output may increase CO2 solubility because of a greater vapor pressure. I'm not saying I'm right about what I said. I'm saying the enviornment is way to complex and we should not jump to conclusions on scarce and contradicting data.
Both of course. Isn't it obvious? Things are never that black and white.
Anyone who can explain to me how either natural cycles _or_ human activity could possibly _not_ affect the temperature wins a prize.
Anyone who can explain to me how either natural cycles _or_ human activity could possibly _not_ affect the temperature wins a prize.
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