Global warming skeptic now says global warming is real and is a chief concern

[GodlessAstronomer]

How come when you increase CO2 plants grow faster?

I really hope for your sake that isn't a serious question. If it is, you need to go back to school.

 

[glenn1]

Are you a tool?

Reading comprehension FAIL!
""Investing $100bn annually would mean that we could essentially resolve the climate change problem by the end of this century," the book concludes."

FYI, that basically means 100 billion x 90 years.

How much is the U.S defence budget every year?

What a great proposition. For the low price of $900 billion, we'll save the world from global warming. And it's foolproof -if the Earth doesn't warm, the manmade global warming partisans will say it's because we "invested" the $900B. If it does warm, they'll tell us about how much worse things would have been.

 

[AnitaPeterson]

@glenn1

Methinks you missed an additional zero.

Yes, it's a colossal sum.

But it's the sum the whole of humanity should pay to ensure its home planet and its ecosystem will survive. You simply cannot put a price on losing entire chains of insects, plants and animals, and you don't want the Earth to reach something akin to a Condition Venus. And if instead of killing each other, we learn to become energy-efficient, reduce our waste, learn to recycle everything, and forget about idiotic things like "planned obsolescence" and overproduction, I think we all stand to benefit, money be damned. There are no rich people in the graveyard.

 

[sandorski]

I really hope for your sake that isn't a serious question. If it is, you need to go back to school.

Dude, you're back!

I thought you should know this.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

You miss me?

 

[sandorski]

You miss me?

Ya, but in a No Homo kinda way.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

YOUR willful ignorance astounds ME. You refuse to even understand the concept of a model, much less why models are irrelevant to understanding the basic causality of more greenhouse gas -> higher temperature.

Holy shit...so that's why models are irrelevent!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_modelling

"The process of evaluating a model

A model is evaluated first and foremost by its consistency to empirical data; any model inconsistent with reproducible observations must be modified or rejected. However, a fit to empirical data alone is not sufficient for a model to be accepted as valid. Other factors important in evaluating a model include:[citation needed]

• Ability to explain past observations
• Ability to predict future observations
• Cost of use, especially in combination with other models
• Refutability, enabling estimation of the degree of confidence in the model
• Simplicity, or even aesthetic appeal

People may attempt to quantify the evaluation of a model using a utility function"

 

[Fear No Evil]

@glenn1

Methinks you missed an additional zero.

Yes, it's a colossal sum.

But it's the sum the whole of humanity should pay to ensure its home planet and its ecosystem will survive. You simply cannot put a price on losing entire chains of insects, plants and animals, and you don't want the Earth to reach something akin to a Condition Venus. And if instead of killing each other, we learn to become energy-efficient, reduce our waste, learn to recycle everything, and forget about idiotic things like "planned obsolescence" and overproduction, I think we all stand to benefit, money be damned. There are no rich people in the graveyard.

OMG! The world is coming to an end! We must simply pay 40% of our income in taxes and all killing will stop, we'll have no waste, and nobody will ever have to worry about money ever again..

This is the hateful rhetoric I was referring to in my other thread. If you don't believe what the left is spewing the world will end!

 

[shira]

How come when you increase CO2 plants grow faster?

How come when you start a world-wide plague, real estate gets more affordable?

 

[AnitaPeterson]

OMG! The world is coming to an end! We must simply pay 40% of our income in taxes and all killing will stop, we'll have no waste, and nobody will ever have to worry about money ever again..

This is the hateful rhetoric I was referring to in my other thread. If you don't believe what the left is spewing the world will end!

There is nothing hateful in what I initially wrote. Nothing. You are delusional. And claiming that my political view are on the "left" is not only idiotic, it's also an insult. You talk about hate? Unlike you, I actually fought a revolution to overthrow Communism, and my mind carries forever the image of a high-school colleague getting crushed by a tank in the first night of the uprising. You wouldn't know what "left" or "right" is if they both bit you in the ass. Unlike you, I defy political regimentation. I can see the weaknesses and strong points of any current political and economic system. So STFU, you smatterer... or at least be humble enough to fear the evil of your own stupidity.

Oh and by the way, as far as taxes go, most of the civilized world already pays around, or close to 40%, anyway: http://www.worldwide-tax.com/index.asp#partthree

All things considered, at the end of the day, if I should listen to what someone like Slavoj Zizek says - http://www.newscientist.com/article...ke-up-and-smell-the-apocalypse.html?full=true - or some nincompoop like you, there can't even be a question of choice.

 

[monovillage]

I hope that Godlessastro is ok after the 7.4 quake in Christchurch. Good wishes to you and the folks down there.