JohnOfSheffield
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- Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Originally posted by: retrospooty
Yup... I never thought too much of it, this planaet has survived far worse than us puny humans, many times in the past. It may not be a great time to buy beachfront property, but we will be fine. =)
The big concern is not the planet, it's us. The planet would surely survive most of the catastrophic events we can think of; short of an impact with a celestial body of enormous mass or our sun going supernova (which it isn't even remotely large enough to do anyway), there's really nothing that's going to destroy the planet itself. But us? We're fragile. The planet may survive an impact by a 10 mile wide meteor, but we'd probably all die. The concern with global warming is not that it will destroy the planet, it's that it would destroy humans (and, to a lesser extent, other life).
Short of a major catastrophe such as a large asteroid, or full out nuclear war... There really isnt much that could hurt us either. Global warming at worst could have the sea levels rise, losing some valuable beach front property. Its not like mankind ceases to exist. Some science says that it could make the oceans less salty, disrupting the ocean currents and plunge us into an ice age - still, primitive man survived that last ice age - I am sure modern man with modern tech will do the same. - not that its going to happen =)
"Us" doesn't really mean Species. Or should I say: "I don't give a fuck about the Species. What about your Children and their Children, what kind of Life do you want them to have?"
Is it ok to cause a disaster because your Descendant will find a way for a few to survive to repopulate afterwards?
OF course its not OK to cause a disaster, and of course I want a good life for my children/grandchildren etc... Who doesnt?
What I am saying is that we are NOT causing a disaster.
We need to get off of oil for these reasons, in order
#1 Economically - we spend way too much money on power, most of which is spent importing Oil
#2 Political - Most of what we spend on Oil is funding countries that hate America and our way of life (for example Saudi Arabia)
#3 Environment. Its not good breathing all the crap in the air. Smog in major cities is rediculous.
Global warming is not proven, and what science is out there is highly debatable. Get it?
It's been deemed sound science by the overwhelming majority of the worlds scientists but perhaps YOU know better?
Perhaps you really don't, get it?
As mentioned above - For every scientist that says global warming is a catastrophe, there is another that disagree's... So like I said, its highly debatable. This is not what "I know", this is what the worlds scientists are debating... Nothing is proven.
Regardless, we need to get off oil and stop our nasty emissions. Not necesarily becasue of global warming, but for the other reasons I outlined. If the fear of global warming helps get it done, then good. I am all for it =)
In your dreams it might be 50-50, in reality it's 80-5-15 the 80 are those who are actually involved in the research, the 5 are those who have a phd in philosopy or astrology and don't believe it, the other 15 are non decided because they can't really give a definitive answer yet.
You really don't have the faintest clue how science works, do you?