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Global warming is all in your imagination

Yeah, I don't know why I thought that documented rising temperatures and measured glacier retreats could possibly have been caused by the things, well, getting warmer.
 
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
I don't think many people doubt that we are in a cycle of global warming. The main contention is whether or not we cause this.

Please don't forget that there's even global warming on Mars.
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regardless of whether or not we cause it, is it logical to assume we can continue to spew garbage into the environment without negative repercussions?
 
Originally posted by: DotheDamnTHing
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
I don't think many people doubt that we are in a cycle of global warming. The main contention is whether or not we cause this.

Please don't forget that there's even global warming on Mars.
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regardless of whether or not we cause it, is it logical to assume we can continue to spew garbage into the environment without negative repercussions?
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Why not just leave the environment in horrible shape for our children/grandchildren? Works for the economy, doesn't it?
 
Originally posted by: Pens1566
Originally posted by: DotheDamnTHing
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
I don't think many people doubt that we are in a cycle of global warming. The main contention is whether or not we cause this.

Please don't forget that there's even global warming on Mars.
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regardless of whether or not we cause it, is it logical to assume we can continue to spew garbage into the environment without negative repercussions?
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Why not just leave the environment in horrible shape for our children/grandchildren? Works for the economy, doesn't it?
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well its not debt/deficit spending if we borrow from ourselves:roll:😕
 
Originally posted by: DotheDamnTHing
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
I don't think many people doubt that we are in a cycle of global warming. The main contention is whether or not we cause this.

Please don't forget that there's even global warming on Mars.
Click to expand...

regardless of whether or not we cause it, is it logical to assume we can continue to spew garbage into the environment without negative repercussions?
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It all depends on the scale. When we have volcanoes spewing megatons of sulfer dioxide into the air in single instances, what difference does a miniscule amount of that make? It's a point hotly debated, and it'd be nice to see discussion on it that's not governed by panic.
 
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: DotheDamnTHing
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
I don't think many people doubt that we are in a cycle of global warming. The main contention is whether or not we cause this.

Please don't forget that there's even global warming on Mars.
Click to expand...

regardless of whether or not we cause it, is it logical to assume we can continue to spew garbage into the environment without negative repercussions?
Click to expand...

It all depends on the scale. When we have volcanoes spewing megatons of sulfer dioxide into the air in single instances, what difference does a miniscule amount of that make? It's a point hotly debated, and it'd be nice to see discussion on it that's not governed by panic.
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Volcanoes? That's your argument? I'd be willing to bet that automobile exhaust is more damaging to the environment than a natural process that has always been present, and doesn't happen that often anyway.
 
Originally posted by: Pens1566
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: DotheDamnTHing
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
I don't think many people doubt that we are in a cycle of global warming. The main contention is whether or not we cause this.

Please don't forget that there's even global warming on Mars.
Click to expand...

regardless of whether or not we cause it, is it logical to assume we can continue to spew garbage into the environment without negative repercussions?
Click to expand...

It all depends on the scale. When we have volcanoes spewing megatons of sulfer dioxide into the air in single instances, what difference does a miniscule amount of that make? It's a point hotly debated, and it'd be nice to see discussion on it that's not governed by panic.
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Volcanoes? That's your argument? I'd be willing to bet that automobile exhaust is more damaging to the environment than a natural process that has always been present, and doesn't happen that often anyway.
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While we're discussing "natural processes that have alweays been happening", let's not forget that not that long ago, the earth was a big ol' chunk of ice. If it weren't for global warming, it would still be.
 
The "not so long ago" ice age was ended by a warming. A long, slow, gradual natural warming. Nothing like the current accelerated one of the last 100 or so years. Nice job dropping the volcanoes and changing the argument though. I've seen quite a bit of that around here the last few days. You guys have a weekend retreat or something to get trained up on that?
 
Last time I checked...I don't live on Mars 😀

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4315968.stm

Aside from the West having an unquenchable thirst for oil, China burns high sulfur coal,
lots of it. In 2006 China will add coal fired electric power that equals all of the electric
power generated in the UK. A yellow brown cloud drifts toward Canada off China's
north east coast. The acid rain from the cloud does reach Northern Europe.

There's enough for everybody !! Weeeee! 😀


...Galvanized
 
only 30 years ago people were seriously thinking we were headed into an Ice Age.

Anybody remember the blizzard of 68? (I don't, lol)

And look where 1968 sits on this graph of arctic temperatures going back to 1880

http://junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Arctic1880-2004_5.gif


So our next low spot should arrive at about 2048, at which point we will be tired of all the liberals telling us we are going to freeze to death, and we need to nuke the earth to warm its core, just to save humanity.
 
I was reading in Scientific American an article about protecting longish term space travelers from cosmic ray damage (an est. is 1/3 of the DNA cut in a year), and one of the ideas is some giant water bubble for blocking the stuff, with the ship inside, etc.

Reminded me of an old sci-fi story with one of those multi-generational ships, where after a few thousand years folks have forgotten they are inside some hollow sphere and don't know how to control it or what's it about.

Leading to the thought of being on the outside of a large solid sphere, that we* don't know how to control, what it's about and have zillions of don't-give-a-damn-about-anything-except-me-n-my-money drunken monkeys fiddling with any button they see. Yikes.

*least of all President Pinocchio

 
Originally posted by: dimensionOFdissension
Let's just turn our heads and pretend it's not happening so American corporate profit isn't affected.
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LOL, that is a sad truth.

I remember reading a few years ago about a popular person here in Denver over 100 years ago, anyway it told a story about how he met his wife on City park lake in the winter ice skating..... I found it hilarious cause now since it never does get that frozen over here anymore (It was 65 degrees here on Tuesday) it's been illegal to skate on that lake for atleast 15 years.
 
Volcanos spew out gases mostly during eruptions. The earth may have a way to compensate for this. The difference is we spew them out continually which may be more difficult to assimilate.
I am always reminded when the topic of global warming comes up, of the cod fishing on the Grand Banks off northeastern North America.
For hundreds of years they were fished extensively. The cod seemed to be sustaining their population and fishing looked like it would go on forever.
Then one day, as if overnight, the stocks dropped drastically over just a few years.
It has been what, 20years, since we stopped fishing for them. And the stocks don't seem to be coming back.
It may be the RATE of change in temperature that is more important than the actual change.
Anyways, if you are 50 years old as I am, and live in the Northeast, it certainly seems like winters are milder. Much milder.
 
Yes, the globe is getting a bit warmer. But is it because of us, or cows? Last time I checked, a cow produces more greenhouse gases then a Land Rover. I have a Land Rover, and can tell you that it is one of the most inefficient SUVs out there. The temps of the world have risen by .05C per decade.
 
Who here actually says global warming isn't happening? I don't think anyone does...the only people disagree on is what the cause of it is and what the implications might be...
 
Originally posted by: themusgrat
Yes, the globe is getting a bit warmer. But is it because of us, or cows? Last time I checked, a cow produces more greenhouse gases then a Land Rover. I have a Land Rover, and can tell you that it is one of the most inefficient SUVs out there. The temps of the world have risen by .05C per decade.
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You've got to be kidding.

What's the difference? The cows are here because humans are raising them. They aren't here for any other reason than human consumption.

So who care's if it's because humans raise too many cattle or drive too many gass guzzlers?

The cause (or major contributing factor) is still human activities.
 
Of course it is happening. But it is much, much smaller than many think, and many scientists can argue that the earth's temp flunctuates naturally. For all you evolutionists, what caused the Ice Age? (I don't believe that it ever happened, but you do). Our co2 productivity is so much less than the natural production of it that it is actually laughable.

EDIT: Oh, I thought that you believed that cows are real natural. Besides, what would happen if we weren't chopping so many forests, would there be more animals? Our growing cattle probably only makes up for the vast number of buffalo that we wiped out.
 
Originally posted by: catnap1972
Originally posted by: ntdz
Who here actually says global warming isn't happening?
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You mean aside from you righties who constantly peg it as more leftist treehugging bullsh!+? :roll:
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We don't, or most of us, think that it is not happening. Did you read my previous post? .05C per decade is not that much. Oh, sure, I think that it is a real good idea to limit, or stop GW, but not anything to break he world over.
 
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