Glenn Beck has Nazi Tourettes

[rjl]

I know, it's ethnic profiling. So we are targeting one ethnic group and not the others right? And that's fair how?

I don't see anything in the Arizona law that targets anyone. After making a lawful contact and based on reasonable suspicion, a law enforcement officer can inquire as to the detainees status in the U.S. Nothing in the law says being Hispanic provides reasonable suspicion.

 

[xj0hnx]

I know, it's ethnic profiling. So we are targeting one ethnic group and not the others right? And that's fair how?

Their ethnic group isn't being "targeted", it's just a reality that it happens to be the ethnic group that has the vast majority of illegals.

 

[Red Dawn]

Well since I'm not Hispanic why should I care, no skin off my back.

 

[rjl]

Well since I'm not Hispanic why should I care, no skin off my back.

We will have to wait and see. I'd suspect that most police officers can reasonably discern who a likely illegal is based on inability to speak English, lack of understanding of circumstances, etc. The fact that the vast majority of those reasonably suspected to be illegal will be Hispanic is merely a function of the fact that the vast majority of illegal aliens actually are Hispanic.

If cops start hassling Hispanic U.S. citizens who clearly possess native English-speaking ability, exhibit situational understanding consistent with a U.S. citizen, etc. then we can revisit the question of racial profiling. But this law hasn't even gone into effect and already it's being called racist, police-state, etc.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Correct this if its wrong but this morning on the radio they said AZ law was no different than U.S. law only that AZ was actually going to enforce it. Is that the gist of it?

 

[Venix]

Correct this if its wrong but this morning on the radio they said AZ law was no different than U.S. law only that AZ was actually going to enforce it. Is that the gist of it?

While most of the Arizona law does largely mirror existing federal law, federal law does not require a US citizen to carry citizenship identification papers and present them on demand during a Terry stop if his immigration status is in question.

Parity with federal law also doesn't necesarily mean it's a good law; consider the idiocy of federal drug laws, for example. However, my only concern with the Arizona's law is the identification requirement, and that could largely be satisified by simply changing 'reasonable suspicion' to 'arrest' or 'probable cause'. My earlier concerns about making "looking illegal" a detainable offense have already been satisfied by the recent amendment that removed the "any lawful contact" nonsense.

 

[TheAdvocate]

xjohnx spent the better part of 7 pages bogging down a conversation in a ridiculous hissy fit.

Look, if you're not here to advance the conversation, then you're just annoying. As John Stewart once told Tucker Carlson, Please Stop. Just stop already.

rjl - I enjoyed reading your counterpoints and discussion.

I do think that the AZ law discussion is already being covered in another thread.

 

[xj0hnx]

xjohnx spent the better part of 7 pages bogging down a conversation in a ridiculous hissy fit.

Look, if you're not here to advance the conversation, then you're just annoying. As John Stewart once told Tucker Carlson, Please Stop. Just stop already.

rjl - I enjoyed reading your counterpoints and discussion.

I do think that the AZ law discussion is already being covered in another thread.

Go fuck yourself douchebag. If you weren't such a piece of shit partisan hack, and could read beyond a second grade level you'd know that Perknose was the dumbshit that doesn't have a clue.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Go fuck yourself douchebag. If you weren't such a piece of shit partisan hack, and could read beyond a second grade level you'd know that Perknose was the dumbshit that doesn't have a clue.

Perknose wasn't exactly posting a monologue...

 

[SirStev0]

like many leftists, black is trivializing the holocaust and nazi germany by parodying beck's partisan agenda.

GB has drawn parallels between hitler's administration and obama.

this is not entirely inaccurate because the modern american left has a lot in common with the nazi socialist policies of germany.

im refering to economic policies. today's germany continues to use several economic policies written by hitler, as do some other european states.

also obama has defined the cult of personality, something hitler and stalin both institutionalized.

GB is right in that he has not accused any dem of being a nazi explicitly.

anyways...both are tools but the DS has gotten really old. same old jokes...endless liberal bitching...

You do realize that Stalin coined the phrase "cult of personality" to describe the Kennedy administration. Guess not. Just another clueless ignorant jackass. (though to be fair the concept had been around long before that, Stalin just gave it a catch phrase).

 

[DucatiMonster696]

You do realize that Stalin coined the phrase "cult of personality" to describe the Kennedy administration. Guess not. Just another clueless ignorant jackass. (though to be fair the concept had been around long before that, Stalin just gave it a catch phrase).

Ummm.....Stalin died in 1953 and Kennedy first took office in 1961

 

[SirStev0]

Ummm.....Stalin died in 1953 and Kennedy first took office in 1961

Sorry reversed the names. Kennedy used it to describe Stalin.

 

[Perknose]

Ummm.....Stalin died in 1953 and Kennedy first took office in 1961

I think he meant Bob Stalin, who was, iirc, Nixon's advance man for northern Iowa.

Bob had quite the way with words. He was THE guy who coined the phrases "twofer" and "Well, slap me hard and call me Sally." Not many people know this. Or care.

He died young of syphilis in New Zealand in 1963.

Tragic, really.

Much later, it was Jimmy Carter who defined the cult of the lack of personality.