Giving Opera 7.54 a try, from a longtime firefox user

[imported_Phil]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: Phil
I love Opera dearly; always have.

Without adblocking (built-in, no external programs thanks), I'm forced to stick with Firefox.

Firefox has built-in adblocking? News to me.

No, but it has AdBlock. That's not an external program, it's a plugin.

Both Opera and Firefox have popup blockers. Ditch Opera 7 and get the now-free Opera 8.5.

Even my pet rats know that they both have popup blockers.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Now trying the Opera 9 PR dated Oct. It has fixed nearly all my complaints with opera 7. I like that opera has made their browser free without ads. I will give firefox another try when the non beta version of 1.5 comes out, as i have been having trouble with the betas. If only there was a plugin for opera that was as easy to use and as simple/integrated as adblock is to firefox, sigh.

but oh well, liking opera 9 so far.

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Now trying the Opera 9 PR dated Oct. It has fixed nearly all my complaints with opera 7. I like that opera has made their browser free without ads. I will give firefox another try when the non beta version of 1.5 comes out, as i have been having trouble with the betas. If only there was a plugin for opera that was as easy to use and as simple/integrated as adblock is to firefox, sigh.

but oh well, liking opera 9 so far.

Have you checked out their forums? That seems to be something people are interested in most, might be worth checking out. They have a mod forum.

 

[Xyclone]

Originally posted by: Stretchman
As funny as it sounds, it gave me kind of a rush knowing that I was bucking MS's standard web browser.

Haha, your concience (sp?) finally caught up with you?

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: Phil

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: Phil
I love Opera dearly; always have.

Without adblocking (built-in, no external programs thanks), I'm forced to stick with Firefox.

Firefox has built-in adblocking? News to me.

No, but it has AdBlock. That's not an external program, it's a plugin.

That's the same thing. You are required to download a third-party program seperately to offer the functionality. Internal would mean it's built-in, plug-ins aren't built-in. That's why they are called plug-ins!

 

[XBoxLPU]

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: Phil

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: Phil
I love Opera dearly; always have.

Without adblocking (built-in, no external programs thanks), I'm forced to stick with Firefox.

Firefox has built-in adblocking? News to me.

No, but it has AdBlock. That's not an external program, it's a plugin.

That's the same thing. You are required to download a third-party program seperately to offer the functionality. Internal would mean it's built-in, plug-ins aren't built-in. That's why they are called plug-ins!

Plugins are not programs. They are BUILT-IN Firefox

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: XBoxLPU

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: Phil

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: Phil
I love Opera dearly; always have.

Without adblocking (built-in, no external programs thanks), I'm forced to stick with Firefox.

Firefox has built-in adblocking? News to me.

No, but it has AdBlock. That's not an external program, it's a plugin.

That's the same thing. You are required to download a third-party program seperately to offer the functionality. Internal would mean it's built-in, plug-ins aren't built-in. That's why they are called plug-ins!

Plugins are not programs. They are BUILT-IN Firefox

Wether you call them programs or not, they sure aren't built in, they're added.
What you get when you install FF is what's built in, everything else is added, hence the name addon.

 

[kamper]

Yes, but the key here is that once you've got the ad blocker installed, in firefox you never have to leave the app to block adds. You just right-click and block it. With Opera you have to copy the url you want to block, then go to another program and paste it in which is a much more painful process.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: kamper
Yes, but the key here is that once you've got the ad blocker installed, in firefox you never have to leave the app to block adds. You just right-click and block it. With Opera you have to copy the url you want to block, then go to another program and paste it in which is a much more painful process.

Yep, that is pretty much why i prefer Adblock.

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: kamper
Yes, but the key here is that once you've got the ad blocker installed, in firefox you never have to leave the app to block adds. You just right-click and block it. With Opera you have to copy the url you want to block, then go to another program and paste it in which is a much more painful process.

I don't know which adblock prog you are referring to, the one I used for Opera worked inside Opera.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: kamper
Yes, but the key here is that once you've got the ad blocker installed, in firefox you never have to leave the app to block adds. You just right-click and block it. With Opera you have to copy the url you want to block, then go to another program and paste it in which is a much more painful process.

I don't know which adblock prog you are referring to, the one I used for Opera worked inside Opera.

Which one is that?

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: kamper
Yes, but the key here is that once you've got the ad blocker installed, in firefox you never have to leave the app to block adds. You just right-click and block it. With Opera you have to copy the url you want to block, then go to another program and paste it in which is a much more painful process.

I don't know which adblock prog you are referring to, the one I used for Opera worked inside Opera.

Which one is that?

It was one designed for Opera6 that I don't believe ever got updated. I had it on another computer I no longer own. If there are ads on websites, I certainly don't notice them, and really don't care enough to get an adblock. If anything, I'm afraid it will distort the way the website was meant to look, and ads don't bother me at all.

 

[xtknight]

Using Proxomitron and I haven't seen one ad, at least not that I can remember. It seems to almost boost the speed a little even. It's just as good as AdBlock if not better and it works with all browsers.

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: xtknight
Using Proxomitron and I haven't seen one ad, at least not that I can remember. It seems to almost boost the speed a little even. It's just as good as AdBlock if not better and it works with all browsers.

The fact that it works for all browsers is neat.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: xtknight
Using Proxomitron and I haven't seen one ad, at least not that I can remember. It seems to almost boost the speed a little even. It's just as good as AdBlock if not better and it works with all browsers.

The fact that it works for all browsers is neat.

Proxy based, correct?

 

[essential]

I started using Opera a few weeks ago (8.5) and also really like it. I installed a chipset update on my machine, and all the sudden IE started running slower, with a 2 second lag when opening and closing my favorites. Anyway, I DLed Opera and Firefox, and Opera won hands down except for one thing, which was correctable (putting fav links on the top column of the browser). Opera is much faster than anything i've used. I have one question/complaint though ... I notice with Opera, it won't refresh automatically when I reload a site, for example: I'm browsing anandtech forums, I leave the anandtech site, then come back, without closing Opera, it will not have refreshed to show me the updated posts, I have to manually refresh the main forum page once, and then everything is normal. Anyone else experience this problem?

 

[sigs3gv]

I don't like Opera the way it is right now. It doesn't support CSS opacity as of yet.

However, other than that, I think Opera is nice and looks slick.

 

[kamper]

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: xtknight
Using Proxomitron and I haven't seen one ad, at least not that I can remember. It seems to almost boost the speed a little even. It's just as good as AdBlock if not better and it works with all browsers.

The fact that it works for all browsers is neat.

The fact that it works on none of the platforms I use (except at work) sucks.

 

[Mem]

... I notice with Opera, it won't refresh automatically when I reload a site, for example: I'm browsing anandtech forums, I leave the anandtech site, then come back, without closing Opera, it will not have refreshed to show me the updated posts,

You did set refresh time with right click of mouse under reload part?...can be set from 5 secs to 30 mins,plus custom setting as well.

 

[essential]

Originally posted by: Mem

You did set refresh time with right click of mouse under reload part?...can be set from 5 secs to 30 mins,plus custom setting as well.

Thanks! It was set to one min, I didn't even see that option. This should work better for me now.

 

[Sureshot324]

If you do all the firefox tweaks (pipelining, more connections per server, increase cache, etc), it is faster at loading new pages than opera. Firefox 1.5 has matched the speed of operas back/forward button.

Also, THERE ARE NO MEMORY LEAKS IN FIREFOX! It caches a lot, which is a good thing imo, and that's why it uses a lot of ram. You can reduce caching in the settings, but what's the point in having a bunch of unused ram?

What I hate most about opera is the lack of customization. In Firefox (or IE for that matter) I can put any button, menu, or bar anywhere i want. In Opera all i can really do is choose which toolbars i want and what order they're in.

 

[SonicIce]

firefox seemed too much like IE in my opinion. opera is fresh and new