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giving notice

Depends on the job... McDonalds? Eff'em. CEO of Dell... you might want to give them notice.

In short... we need more info to answer the question.
 
You make a bad name for yourself in the professional community. Unless it's a direct competitor, the new company should understand the need for you to give two weeks' notice.
 
will u want a letter of recommendation from this previous company. Some companies will be cautious of someone that just simply quits their previous job without notice so it could hurt your rep/character with the new company.
 
If a new employer wouldn't allow me to give two weeks notice at my current position, that would set off alarms in the back of my head.
 
yeah you can leave right away, but don't expect a good review should your new employer ask for references. You should just tell your new employer that you can up and go at any time too. 😉
 
Originally posted by: between
OK. so what happens if I explain to my current place of work that I need to be released immediately/ 2 weeks early, and they refuse. This is a job where I am easily replaceable, they just need to roster other people on in my place. They probably don't even need to do that, as things have been quiet recently.
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They can't really refuse unless you are in a contract. Doesn't mean they will like it. Is there a reason you can't finish out 2 weeks? The new employer should understand as this is a pretty standard time frame
 
Originally posted by: SpunkyJones
If a new employer wouldn't allow me to give two weeks notice at my current position, that would set off alarms in the back of my head.
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This.

I was was prepared to hire an engineer once, who I knew from the interview process was currently employed. I asked him when he could start, and he said "tomorrow". I didn't hire him. I man that will walk out on his current employer with no notice will do the same to me. I'll not have people like that on my staff.

Give your notice, and serve it out.
 
They can't make you work there for two more weeks, but it's very unprofessional. Don't count on using them as a reference in the future.
 
we have about a 80% success rate with having people put in 2 weeks notice and having them escorted out of the building when they resign. most of the time it was when they said the reasons were to work at a competitors shop, so their worth dropped on the spot.
 
give your two weeks, if your new employer can't understand that, then I wouldn't want to work for them (unless they're paying your triple what you're getting now)
 
Pros: You can start working for new company right away
Cons: If (when) this new company that wont allow you to give two weeks notice puts you out on your ass in a month or two, they obviously wont be a good reference, and now neither will your former company which you walked out on with no notice.
 
I gave three weeks. I was told I had an hour to collect my belongings and get out. There's no such thing as company loyalty these days. Do whatever feels right for you, and don't expect a "favorable reference" whether you do or don't give two weeks.
 
fuck em. it sounds like it wouldn't matter much if you left right away. they wouldn't give you 2 weeks notice of getting fired...
 
Originally posted by: between
Originally posted by: SpunkyJones
If a new employer wouldn't allow me to give two weeks notice at my current position, that would set off alarms in the back of my head.
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from the start of the recruitment process, the new employer was up front about the fact that in this particular situation they needed someone to jump in immediately. I guess I could have withdrawn my application at that early stage after finding out they needed someone to start straight away. But I didn't do that. And now here I am. I find it disappointing that my previous employer wants to extract their last pound of flesh, to the point where it could interfere with a new career opportunity. I may need to simply behave in an unprofessional way this one time (i.e., leave immediately), and hope it pays off. It's not an ideal situation.
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Wow. "Pound of flesh"? It's called professional courtesy. Something, you obviously lack. Sounds like this new place and you are a perfect fit.

Seriously, in your interviews, start date never came up? If they didn't bring it up, why didn't you, especially when negotiating your job offer? They knew you were working, correct? Did you lie to them?
 
Originally posted by: between
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: between
Originally posted by: SpunkyJones
If a new employer wouldn't allow me to give two weeks notice at my current position, that would set off alarms in the back of my head.
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from the start of the recruitment process, the new employer was up front about the fact that in this particular situation they needed someone to jump in immediately. I guess I could have withdrawn my application at that early stage after finding out they needed someone to start straight away. But I didn't do that. And now here I am. I find it disappointing that my previous employer wants to extract their last pound of flesh, to the point where it could interfere with a new career opportunity. I may need to simply behave in an unprofessional way this one time (i.e., leave immediately), and hope it pays off. It's not an ideal situation.
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Wow. "Pound of flesh"? It's called professional courtesy. Something, you obviously lack. Sounds like this new place and you are a perfect fit.

Seriously, in your interviews, start date never came up? If they didn't bring it up, why didn't you, especially when negotiating your job offer? They knew you were working, correct? Did you lie to them?
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I advised the new employer that start date wouldn't be an issue, thinking I would be able to come to an agreement with my current employer (i.e., an agreement that I would not have to serve out the full notice period). I perused the documents pertaining to resignation & termination on current employer's intranet, and from what I read it seemed it would be possible to avoid serving the notice period (I simply wouldn't be paid for the period not worked).

At any rate, I am pretty much decided that I will be leaving without serving the full notice period. So yes, that is unprofessional. Oh, well. I have to take a chance, and move on. I can't hang around in the old job, because I am afraid someone will be offended. I'll be aiming to handle this kind of situation with more grace and professionalism next time around.
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So, why haven't you given your notice already? You posted this on Thursday.

You don't know anyone at your current work place that has left the company? Discover what they did about giving notice? I'm gonna guess that none of them gave notice and just left unless the company escorted them out the door the very same day.

And yes, you have a lot to learn. You should have let the new company know that you'd have to give notice at your current workplace and that you weren't immediately available. Surprised that it didn't raise a red flag to your new company when you said you could start immediately.
 
Originally posted by: SunnyD
I gave three weeks. I was told I had an hour to collect my belongings and get out. There's no such thing as company loyalty these days. Do whatever feels right for you, and don't expect a "favorable reference" whether you do or don't give two weeks.
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Yeah, when companies stopped being loyal to their employees they lost the right for their employees to be loyal. It really depends on the company though. A lot of companies will try to screw you over as much as possible if you give notice.

If you suspect they will flip their shit and bend you over your desk as you leave, go with your gut instincts and stay quiet.
 
Your contract of employment should give details of how much notice is required - if in doubt, an informal discussion with HR may clarify this. You are expected to stick to this - although how important it is depends on the responsibilities of your job, and whether your post can be filled by someone else.

There are several potential pitfalls with not working your notice:
1. It's unprofessional. You risk not being able to get a recommendation from your current employer in the future, or even worse, your current employer may mention this unprofessional behaviour in any letter of reference. Do you really want a new employer to get a letter like:
"Dear Mr. Doe, Thank you for enquiring about Mr. Between. I can confirm that he worked at ACME computers from September 28 2008 to July 13 2009 at which time he breached his contract of employment by refusing to work his notice period." It's unlikely that this would happen in an informal job, but in more professional jobs it can happen.
2. Your current employer may throw you out as soon as they get your notice of resignation. However, if you write that you are giving x weeks notice and that you are prepared to work for the full period - even if they throw you out and tell you are finished - they must pay you your full wages for those x weeks.
3. If your leaving without notice screws your employer over they can potentially sue for damages - e.g. if they have to go to an agency to get a temp to fill your post - the hourly rate for agency staff can be much higher than a formal employee - they could easily sue you for the difference.

Although it doesn't really apply in your case, I have seen people get absolutely screwed over because they treated an employer unprofessionally. I know one guy, an MD, who was coming towards the end of a fixed-term contract and was looking for a new job, with the full knowledge and blessing of his current employer. He got offered a good job, and his current boss gave him a glowing letter of recommendation. Then he decided, 'f*** it - I'm not staying for my 3 month notice period' and basically told them 'I'm off in a couple of weeks. See ya'. Of course, he left his current employer in the lurch. His old boss was furious, and actually wrote to the new employer withdrawing his letter of recommendation due to unprofessional behavior, and also wrote to the medical licensing board. The new employer after the recommendation was withdrawn, withdrew the offer of employment, and with no one to turn to for a recommendation, he was basically SOL. Then just to make it worse the licensing board, called him up in front of a formal disciplinary hearing, and gave a formal written warning for unprofessional behavior, and stated that if something similar happened again, they would cancel his medical license.

On the converse, it's common courtesy to tell any prospective employer about your notice period. It would be a standard part of the negotiations when they offer you the job. That's why prospective employers ask when you can start - they know that it's professional courtesy to give notice to your current employer. When I last went applying for jobs, I actually put 'Notice period: 3 months' on my resume. It didn't hurt my chances and I'm sure my new employer appreciated knowing even before inviting me to interview that there would be a delay before I could start.

 
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