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Ajay

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I can't really decided because I can't predict the ways in which to republicans will attack this when it's their turn. I'm sure they will spin it towards the electorate that this shows, once again, that big government has failed :rolleyes:
Anyway, if Biden and (a democratic) congress wants this, I'll stand by their decision.
 
Muse

Muse

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dank69 said:
The standard now is to do whatever you can get away with. If Democrats take the WH, House, and Senate they should just rig the whole system in every way possible to ensure Republicans never get control back, up to and including installing a dictator for life if necessary.
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Well, obviously a dictator is anti-democratic, so no, not in the cards. But they should do as much as possible to enforce democracy in the USA. Kill Citizens United, the filibuster, gerrymandering, disenfranchisement, protection for misinformation, foreign governments meddling in our elections, guaranteeing healthcare for all, making education accessible, making the rich pay their share, cleaning up corruption, making major improvements in guaranteeing transparency in both government and private enterprise. In short, a new day we can be proud of.
 
hal2kilo

hal2kilo

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Muse said:
Well, obviously a dictator is anti-democratic, so no, not in the cards. But they should do as much as possible to enforce democracy in the USA. Kill Citizens United, the filibuster, gerrymandering, disenfranchisement, protection for misinformation, foreign governments meddling in our elections, guaranteeing healthcare for all, making education accessible, making the rich pay their share, cleaning up corruption, making major improvements in guaranteeing transparency in both government and private enterprise. In short, a new day we can be proud of.
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Definitely, need to look at some legislation. Problem is, unless you have a solid majority in both houses, none of this will be accomplished.
 
Muse

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hal2kilo said:
Definitely, need to look at some legislation. Problem is, unless you have a solid majority in both houses, none of this will be accomplished.
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Our number one problem is global warming and we're going to be reminded of this continually and more forcefully over time. I don't know of a single Republican who has any intention of responding to this our existential crisis. I know of only one who admits that global warming is not a hoax... John Kasich, former Ohio governor, who ran for POTUS in 2016 and now endorses Biden. He said it's real but he didn't think anything could be done about it. We need to bury the Republican Party.
 
blackangst1

blackangst1

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HomerJS said:
Oh you mean that radical Marxist Obama who nominated a centrist? Trying to adhere to norms and meet Republicans in the middle?
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1. Ive never called Obama a radical Marxist so quit putting fucking words in my mouth. Obama wasnt a Marxist. Sanders is though.
2. McConnel did the wrong thing by not putting Obama's nominee on the floor for a vote.
3. If McConnel does what he is supposed to, he will put a Trump nominee on the floor for a vote.

It has nothing to do with meeting in the middle.

edit: it has nothing to do with who is in power. If there is a vacancy, it is the Senates responsibility to put up a nominee. Delaying such a thing is obstruction to the process.
 
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Maxima1

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blackangst1 said:
3. If McConnel does what he is supposed to, he will put a Trump nominee on the floor for a vote.

It has nothing to do with meeting in the middle.
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What McConnell was supposed to do was convict him after the impeachment. They also refused to do oversight because they know what they would find.
 
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kage69

kage69

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blackangst1 said:
1. Ive never called Obama a radical Marxist so quit putting fucking words in my mouth. Obama wasnt a Marxist. Sanders is though.
2. McConnel did the wrong thing by not putting Obama's nominee on the floor for a vote.
3. If McConnel does what he is supposed to, he will put a Trump nominee on the floor for a vote.

It has nothing to do with meeting in the middle.
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You've never really studied political history at all, have you?

 
nickqt

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blackangst1 said:
So you think people change?
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You think Democrat Rick Perry from 1980 is the same as Republican Rick Perry of 2020?

You think Republican Elizabeth Warren from 1980 is the same as Democrat Elizabeth Warren of 2020?

You clearly don't think, which is your problem.
 
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sandorski

sandorski

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Marx spawned a broad set of ideas and movements that makes the term "Marxist" quite vague in meaning by itself. Some just want to Democratize the Workplace, aka Unionize Workers. Some thought seizing all Property and redistributing it like the Soviet Union was a good idea. Others think that Social Programs belong in any Society that values Life, Liberty, and Happiness.
 
kage69

kage69

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blackangst1 said:
You know Sanders campaigned for the Socialist Workers Party back in the 80's right?
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So, in your heavily filtered world, a democratic socialist who believes in non predatory capitalism = Marxist? Orthodox? Revisionist?

I think my suspicion was correct, next time just say No.

You are swallowing the bull about Sanders the same way you did about voter suppression being a figment of people's imaginations. In that case though, you eventually accepted facts and admitted error (which I commended you for if memory serves). Don't get lazy, keep going. Carrying slop from the GOP noise machine gets it all over you, makes you look dumber than you actually are.
 
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Muse

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Why is blackangst1 getting so many responses? He's the devil's advocate? I've had that troll on ignore for a real long time. If all I see are responses to that person, I'm gonna unsubscribe. You don't have to ignore in the software, you can do it in your mind. IGNORE the trolls.

I counted at least 7 posts in a row that were refutations of that troll. That's ridiculous.
 
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ivwshane

ivwshane

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Muse said:
Why is blackangst1 getting so many responses? He's the devil's advocate? I've had that troll on ignore for a real long time. If all I see are responses to that person, I'm gonna unsubscribe. You don't have to ignore in the software, you can do it in your mind. IGNORE the trolls.

I counted at least 7 posts in a row that were refutations of that troll. That's ridiculous.
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As explained to you before, some of us enjoy dunking on dumb ass bitches like him. Is it fair? Not really. Is it fun? Sometimes. Does it get old? Maybe.
 
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Indus

Indus

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FEINSTEIN on ending filibuster and expanding SCOTUS: “I don't believe in doing that. I think the filibuster serves a purpose. It is not often used, it's often less used now than when I first came, and I think it's part of the Senate that differentiates itself.” ht
@DanielPFlatley
 
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ivwshane

ivwshane

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Indus said:
FEINSTEIN on ending filibuster and expanding SCOTUS: “I don't believe in doing that. I think the filibuster serves a purpose. It is not often used, it's often less used now than when I first came, and I think it's part of the Senate that differentiates itself.” ht
@DanielPFlatley
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Time to throw out those who don't believe in observable reality. "both side"

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Muse

Muse

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Indus said:
Jeffrey Toobin: Democrats Don’t “Have the Guts” to Expand Supreme Court

I tend to think he's right.. we have a bunch of limp dicks while Trump has a raging hard on!
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Look, why would Democrats threaten, or worse, declare they'll expand the court at this point? Dumb move because Trump/McConnell and company could do that now. Things will play out. Best to no threaten now, what would be the point? Do they think the GOP will back down if they do?

I think it's possible that another Republican will step forward and say they don't like this. Of course it is, but people don't seem to expect that. But it's obviously possible. Graham for one looks like a turd if he doesn't. Romney voted for impeachment but is saying he'll rubber stamp Trump's pick. Well, he said he'll consider the appointment on its own merits. He's coming off as a complete dick too.

More turmoil. The USA's looking sickening right now. Democrats better take power next year or this country looks to be a lost cause.
 
ivwshane

ivwshane

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Muse said:
Look, why would Democrats threaten, or worse, declare they'll expand the court at this point? Dumb move because Trump/McConnell and company could do that now. Things will play out. Best to no threaten now, what would be the point? Do they think the GOP will back down if they do?

I think it's possible that another Republican will step forward and say they don't like this. Of course it is, but people don't seem to expect that. But it's obviously possible. Graham for one looks like a turd if he doesn't. Romney voted for impeachment but is saying he'll rubber stamp Trump's pick. Well, he said he'll consider the appointment on its own merits. He's coming off as a complete dick too.

More turmoil. The USA's looking sickening right now. Democrats better take power next year or this country looks to be a lost cause.
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Democrats are horrible at power grabs.
 
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