Given a context, would you do the moral thing or rather the right thing?

Braznor

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Never let your sense of morals stop you from doing what's right

- Salvor Hardin. Mayor of Terminus.

Every moral dilemma in our lives can be judged in terms of its context. So would you rather do the moral thing (which may not be the right course of action regarding the circumstance) or the right thing (the right course of action within a reasonable moral framework/or without one)?

Example: Atomic bombings of Japan.

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meltdown75

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voted option 5 because i am having trouble deciding what to vote without a context.
 

pontifex

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isn't the right thing usually the moral thing?
what would be a situation where it would be different?
 

Braznor

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Originally posted by: meltdown75
voted option 5 because i am having trouble deciding what to vote without a context.

Example: Atomic bombings of Japan.

 

BurnItDwn

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Originally posted by: pontifex
isn't the right thing usually the moral thing?
what would be a situation where it would be different?

I'm with you on this.
I see moral and right as being the same thing.
I can't think of any situations off hand where they would be different.
 

BrownTown

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Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: meltdown75
voted option 5 because i am having trouble deciding what to vote without a context.

Example: Atomic bombings of Japan.

Umm which side of the debate is which in your mind?

imo these two words or pretty much synonyms at least in my personal dictionary.
 

meltdown75

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Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Originally posted by: pontifex
isn't the right thing usually the moral thing?
what would be a situation where it would be different?

I'm with you on this.
I see moral and right as being the same thing.
I can't think of any situations off hand where they would be different.
The right thing isn't always the moral thing. Consider abortion, for example. It might not be morally right to take the life of the unborn child (using this as an example - not stating my particular view) although it might be "right" in the eyes of the mother because she is not fit to raise the child or perhaps was impregnated by rape. The grey area comes into play with each individual's definition of "right" and "moral", which is subjective. Morals are also learned over time and defined by a society, making the possibilities for differing views limitless.
 

Braznor

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Originally posted by: BrownTown
Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: meltdown75
voted option 5 because i am having trouble deciding what to vote without a context.

Example: Atomic bombings of Japan.

Umm which side of the debate is which in your mind?

imo these two words or pretty much synonyms at least in my personal dictionary.

Not always. Morally the atomic bombings of Japan might have been wrong (as in killing at a higher scale than before) . But militarily it was right (also in context of preventing needless deaths of Japanese civilians during an invasion as well as the invading American troops)

 

BrownTown

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Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: BrownTown
Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: meltdown75
voted option 5 because i am having trouble deciding what to vote without a context.

Example: Atomic bombings of Japan.

Umm which side of the debate is which in your mind?

imo these two words or pretty much synonyms at least in my personal dictionary.

Not always. Morally the atomic bombings of Japan might have been wrong (as in killing at a higher scale than before) . But militarily it was right (also in context of preventing needless deaths of Japanese civilians during an invasion as well as the invading American troops)

Well personally in my moral code (utilitarianism) it WOULD be moral to kill all those people if it were to actually save lives.
 

Kelemvor

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What is Right or Wrong is all a matter of opinion and view. No way to answer that question without a specific circumstance...
 

Braznor

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Originally posted by: BrownTown
Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: BrownTown
Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: meltdown75
voted option 5 because i am having trouble deciding what to vote without a context.

Example: Atomic bombings of Japan.

Umm which side of the debate is which in your mind?

imo these two words or pretty much synonyms at least in my personal dictionary.

Not always. Morally the atomic bombings of Japan might have been wrong (as in killing at a higher scale than before) . But militarily it was right (also in context of preventing needless deaths of Japanese civilians during an invasion as well as the invading American troops)

Well personally in my moral code (utilitarianism) it WOULD be moral to kill all those people if it were to actually save lives.

Sure, but in a situation where group judgment and action is required, one person's will may not always be the levelground of the collective. Therefore, under such circumstances, similar choices arise.

 

Dirigible

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Still haven't seen an example situation where the right thing was not the moral thing. So I can't answer your poll.
 

Braznor

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
I think it is obvious what you would do.

A rhetoric post, So why not? We are certainly being exterminated for no fault of ours. India is the secondmost terror prone country in the world after Iraq. When you can scream about illegals all day, why can I not wish destruction on my enemies murdering my people in my nation at this very moment?

The enemies of my country are too numerous to be measured. So yes, the distinction exists between the right and the moral thing.

 

shiner

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Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: shinerburke
I think it is obvious what you would do.

A rhetoric post, So why not? We are certainly being exterminated for no fault of ours. India is the secondmost terror prone country in the world after Iraq. When you can scream about illegals all day, why can I not wish destruction on my enemies murdering my people in my nation at this very moment?

The enemies of my country are too numerous to be measured. So yes, the distinction exists between the right and the moral thing.

Tell Eva I said hello.

 

Leros

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To me the right thing is the right, period. If it crosses moral boundaries then so be it, its the right thing for a reason.
 

Braznor

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: shinerburke
I think it is obvious what you would do.

A rhetoric post, So why not? We are certainly being exterminated for no fault of ours. India is the secondmost terror prone country in the world after Iraq. When you can scream about illegals all day, why can I not wish destruction on my enemies murdering my people in my nation at this very moment?

The enemies of my country are too numerous to be measured. So yes, the distinction exists between the right and the moral thing.

Tell Eva I said hello.

Eva should be cavorting with your boogeyman of hypocricy.
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: shinerburke
I think it is obvious what you would do.

A rhetoric post, So why not? We are certainly being exterminated for no fault of ours. India is the secondmost terror prone country in the world after Iraq. When you can scream about illegals all day, why can I not wish destruction on my enemies murdering my people in my nation at this very moment?

The enemies of my country are too numerous to be measured. So yes, the distinction exists between the right and the moral thing.

Tell Eva I said hello.

Eva should be cavorting with your boogeyman of hypocricy.

Don't drag K.C. & The Sunshine Band into this!!!!

 

Braznor

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: shinerburke
I think it is obvious what you would do.

A rhetoric post, So why not? We are certainly being exterminated for no fault of ours. India is the secondmost terror prone country in the world after Iraq. When you can scream about illegals all day, why can I not wish destruction on my enemies murdering my people in my nation at this very moment?

The enemies of my country are too numerous to be measured. So yes, the distinction exists between the right and the moral thing.

Tell Eva I said hello.

Eva should be cavorting with your boogeyman of hypocricy.

Don't drag K.C. & The Sunshine Band into this!!!!

lol, as long as they provide pics, it should be good enough for ATOT!
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: shinerburke
I think it is obvious what you would do.

A rhetoric post, So why not? We are certainly being exterminated for no fault of ours. India is the secondmost terror prone country in the world after Iraq. When you can scream about illegals all day, why can I not wish destruction on my enemies murdering my people in my nation at this very moment?

The enemies of my country are too numerous to be measured. So yes, the distinction exists between the right and the moral thing.

Tell Eva I said hello.

Eva should be cavorting with your boogeyman of hypocricy.

Don't drag K.C. & The Sunshine Band into this!!!!

lol, as long as they provide pics, it should be good enough for ATOT!

So you're into dudes?