Give me a positive reason as to why Obama should get another term

[PottedMeat]

The Obama approach of focusing a spotlight seems to work quite a bit better than the Bush approach of hunting terrorists with a disco ball.

i lol'd


things would have turned out the way did whoever you put in the office ( maybe except DADT ) the economy would still be in the shitter and we would still be in iraq/afghanistan.

 

[ProfJohn]

I'm sorry how dumb of me. Bush was actually better at hunting down terrorists.

Changed it, happy?

 

[chowderhead]

He gave the order to kill OBL and under his administration, OBL was tracked and killed.
He will serve as a check if the Republicans gain control of the Senate and keep the House.
His judicial appointments especially the Supreme Court.

I didn't vote for him but I will given the choice of him versus the current Republican field.

 

[fskimospy]

Accomplished universal health care, the goal of most people in the US for more than a century. Killed Osama Bin Laden, public enemy #1 of the US for a decade. Helped the US avoid a catastrophic depression (although not enough), etc, etc.

What's funny is that Pro-Jo is asking for positive things Obama has done to merit a second term. Pro-Jo thinks that the things Obama has done are Kenyan-fascist-communist-negroist-abominations, but most people would fault Obama for not doing ENOUGH. So basically, this idiot is trying to make a thread about how we shouldn't re-elect Obama because he hasn't done enough good things, when Pro-Jo supports people who would attempt to repeal the things that he has done.

Isn't it sad that he says he isn't being paid? In that he does this awful shit for free.

 

[ProfJohn]

I don't think UHC should count as positive since so many people oppose the bill, but if it makes you happy I suppose.

 

[JSt0rm]

I don't think UHC should count as positive since so many people oppose the bill, but if it makes you happy I suppose.

would you shut the fuck up? Nobody gives a fuck. you asked his accomplishments and then say it isnt one because you dont like it. Well no shit. Of course you dont like it.

You may as well ask people what is the best beer and then say no because you think it has too much hops.

 

[fskimospy]

I don't think UHC should count as positive since so many people oppose the bill, but if it makes you happy I suppose.

Hahaha. You are ridiculous. You ask for positive reasons, then you try to discount those positive reasons because they don't count for you. Of course if someone talked shit about something Obama did that garnered majority support (like raising taxes on the rich), you would just ignore it.

Seriously, what is wrong with you? Why are you this large of a hack?

EDIT: Please hurry up and get banned again. Your posts are horrible. Not because they are conservative, but because they are stupid.

 

[JSt0rm]

This retard was banned?

I thought he went to some other place to spew his shit and I wouldn't have to be a witness to his retardation anymore.

 

[Balt]

Positive reasons have never been required. A candidate only has to seem less terrible than the other guy.

 

[ProfJohn]

More people see Obamacare as a negative than a positive, that was my point.

Not a great idea as a candidate to run around and talk about passing a bill that more people dislike than like.

The idea of the thread is to find positive things that Obama can run on.

So far we have:
Killed Osama
DADT

And nothing else.

 

[superccs]

Here ya go.

http://obamaachievements.org/list

Good job.

 

[Ausm]

would you shut the fuck up? Nobody gives a fuck. you asked his accomplishments and then say it isnt one because you dont like it. Well no shit. Of course you dont like it.

You may as well ask people what is the best beer and then say no because you think it has too much hops.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[Uhtrinity]

Pros:
We aren't in a second great depression as predicted with 20% unemployment, not saying things are great, but I think they could be much worse

DADT repeal, I'm a veteran and fully support this

A step towards universal health care, but it doesn't go far enough. Sad this is criticized by republicans for using republican ideas.

Hasn't escalated Iraq, but due to following Bush's timeline hasn't withdrawn either.

Bin laden and other high ranking terrorists dead via means I support, ie. precision strikes and not large scale occupations.

Allowing exemptions to NCLB

Cons:

Don't feel he has pushed for enough stimulus. Just like the great depression.

Hasn't closed gitmo

Doesn't seem to be making progress in Afghanistan or drawing down much

Isn't getting out of Iraq fast enough

Didn't go far enough with universal health care, ie. single payer



So in essence my dislikes aren't the same as the OP or most of the righties on the board. Granted their are better potential candidates, but I don't know if the democrats will run any of them. If that happens Obama is better than anyone running in the republican field. Btw I consider myself a left leaning moderate.

 

[HomerJS]

Pros:
We aren't in a second great depression as predicted with 20% unemployment, not saying things are great, but I think they could be much worse

GDP was at -6.4% and we were losing 800K jobs/month. Stimulus was able to stop the bleeding. Since the GOP was against it we didn't cross from bad to catastrophic. I know you are going to say the stimulus was a negative but without it we were fucked.

 

[ProfJohn]

If that happens Obama is better than anyone running in the republican field. Btw I consider myself a left leaning moderate.

I think that is going to be his message next year, at least to Democrats.

I think he will really have a hard time reaching out towards the middle and talking about his accomplishments because what few he has are so over shadowed by his failures.

The fact that a forum as liberal as this can only list a few positive accomplishments says a lot.

 

[IronWing]

The fact that a forum as liberal as this can only list a few positive accomplishments says a lot.

That is simply a result of Obama governing so far to the right. Where Obama succeeded was where he stood by the program he laid out as candidate Obama. His failures are a direct result of his endless pandering to the Republicans. Had he stuck to the center, his mileage would have been vastly improved.

 

[Uhtrinity]

The fact that a forum as liberal as this can only list a few positive accomplishments says a lot.

Liberal compared to what? Freerepublic? This forum has a pretty even split, but the fringes on both sides are definitely the most vocal. And on those accomplishments, I still think they were pretty big considering the obstruction he has faced.

I will still stick with the, "It could be worse" argument, because that is where we were headed at the end of 2008 before Obama was even elected. Just hoping both parties will work together in a positive manner so it doesn't get worse as in a 2nd great depression.

 

[ProfJohn]

Liberal compared to what? Freerepublic? This forum has a pretty even split, but the fringes on both sides are definitely the most vocal. And on those accomplishments, I still think they were pretty big considering the obstruction he has faced.

I will still stick with the, "It could be worse" argument, because that is where we were headed at the end of 2008 before Obama was even elected. Just hoping both parties will work together in a positive manner so it doesn't get worse as in a 2nd great depression.

This forum is very liberal. Any poll we have done has proven that fact.

It is not even close to matching the nation when it comes to left v right.

Remember that nationally conservatives out number liberals two to one and you certainly don't see that on this forum.

Liberal 20% v Conservative 42% poll from a year ago
http://www.gallup.com/poll/141032/2010-conservatives-outnumber-moderates-liberals.aspx

 

[fskimospy]

This forum is very liberal. Any poll we have done has proven that fact.

It is not even close to matching the nation when it comes to left v right.

Remember that nationally conservatives out number liberals two to one and you certainly don't see that on this forum.

Liberal 20% v Conservative 42% poll from a year ago
http://www.gallup.com/poll/141032/2010-conservatives-outnumber-moderates-liberals.aspx

Hey guys, conservatives outnumber liberals 2-1 yet Democrats keep winning elections.

Maybe using that as a proxy for what opinions people should hold in polls on this website is terrible?

 

[pcgeek11]

Here ya go.

http://obamaachievements.org/list

Did you read that? What a load of shit! Here are a few examples:

Federal deficit shrank 8% year-on-year.
Job loss exploded under Bush, improves under Obama.
New jobless claims tumble.

 

[pcgeek11]

I'm sorry how dumb of me. Bush was actually better at hunting down terrorists.

I don't think Bush or Obama have ever hunted a terrorist.

Neither of them had anything to do with the actual hunting, it was the Military, CIA etc... When the war began we had no idea how to go about hunting and wiping out terrorist. We have learned over the last 10 years. Obama just happened to the the president when Osama and Alawaki were taken out.

 

[Balt]

I think that is going to be his message next year, at least to Democrats.

I think he will really have a hard time reaching out towards the middle and talking about his accomplishments because what few he has are so over shadowed by his failures.

The fact that a forum as liberal as this can only list a few positive accomplishments says a lot.

Again, none of that really matters if people decide he's the lesser of two evils. Bush was not very popular in 2004, and he still won.

Will Obama do the same in 2012? No idea. I think his attempts to make nice with Republicans just pissed off his base and didn't bring anyone from the right over to his side. I don't think Democrats will vote against him, but they may not show up to the polls.

 

[ProfJohn]

Did Bush win in 2004 because he was the lesser of two evils?

Or did he win because his job to that point was good enough for people to give him another term?

I would say it was the later. The fact that Kerry sucked certainly helped Bush, but I would have won against almost any Democrat who was running at the time or now.

The simple fact is that re-elections are always about the incumbent and never about the challenger. Obama will win or lose in 2012 based on his performance and nothing else. And if he can't make a good argument about why he should get four more years then he will lose.

 

[HomerJS]

I don't think Bush or Obama have ever hunted a terrorist.

Neither of them had anything to do with the actual hunting, it was the Military, CIA etc... When the war began we had no idea how to go about hunting and wiping out terrorist. We have learned over the last 10 years. Obama just happened to the the president when Osama and Alawaki were taken out.

You know nothing besides mindless talking points.

If you want to know how tough the decision was to go after Bin Laden watch the show I think on Smithsonian channel "Hunting Bin Laden". Then get back to me.

 

[davmat787]

This retard was banned?

I thought he went to some other place to spew his shit and I wouldn't have to be a witness to his retardation anymore.

would you shut the fuck up? Nobody gives a fuck. you asked his accomplishments and then say it isnt one because you dont like it. Well no shit. Of course you dont like it.

You may as well ask people what is the best beer and then say no because you think it has too much hops.

trollolololololololol

your plan is fucking stupid and doesnt deserve any kind of credible response.


You are a idiot.

Pj. Shut up.

Idiot

Your opinion on clothing isnt worth anything.

You are a bad American but not for that reason.

All religion is stupid.

Shut up you fat fuck.

Wow, no wonder you have a reputation for posting such engaging and stimulating posts. For you to bitch about someone elses bannage when you engage in nothing but lame personal attacks, which I thought was a vacationable offense is beyond me.

And these quotes are from the past couple days alone. Way to add to the forum! You da man! 🙄