GISS temperature record is a fabrication

Jaskalas

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Essentially, the Arctic’s current weather is cooler than average. The global records used to proclaim “Warmest Decade / Year ever” show up to 4 degrees of warming in the Arctic. Yet their dataset has little to no information from this region.

Is it clear enough yet, that they’re fabricating these records, or does your faith in them guide you?

GISS Polar Interpolation
By Steve Goddard



There has been an active discussion going on about the validity of GISS interpolations. This post compares GISS Arctic interpolation vs. DMI measured/modeled data.


All data uses a baseline of 1958-2002.


The first map shows GISS June 2010 anomalies smoothed to 1200 km. The green line marks 80N latitude. Note that GISS shows essentially the entire region north of 80N up to four degrees above normal.






The next map is the same, but with 250 km smoothing. As you can see, GISS has little or no data north of 80N.






Now let’s compare the GISS 1200 km interpolation with the DMI data for June 2010.



Daily mean temperatures for the Arctic area north of the 80th northern parallel, plotted with daily climate values calculated from the period 1958-2002.

http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php


DMI shows essentially the entire month of June below the 1958-2002 mean. GISS shows it far above the the 1958-2002 mean. Yet GISS has no data north of 80N.


Conclusion : GISS Arctic interpolations are way off the mark. If they report a record global temperature by 0.01 degrees this year, this ↑↑↑↑↑↑↑ is why.


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Straight from the horse’s mouth.
the 12-month running mean global temperature in the GISS analysis has reached a new record in 2010…. GISS analysis yields 2005 as the warmest calendar year, while the HadCRUT analysis has 1998 as the warmest year. The main factor is our inclusion of estimated temperature change for the Arctic region.
- James Hansen


In other words, the GISS record high is based on incorrect, fabricated data. Why did Hansen apparently choose to ignore the DMI data when “estimating” Arctic temperatures? GISS Arctic anomalies are high by as much as 4 degrees, and yet he claims a global record measured in hundredths of a degree. As Penn and Teller would say …. well I guess I

can’t say that here.
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bfdd

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Like I've been saying for awhile, they don't know everything about our climate(even the obvious shit like temperature in every part of the world) so how can they possibly model it right or even say with certainty that they know what is going on. Such bogus shit.
 
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It's really cool the things you can do with math...there's a huge difference between 1200km smoothing and 250km smoothing. But isn't it curious that GISS picked 1200km smoothing to keep the public 'informed'? GISS is a joke.
 

Hacp

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Who would have guessed? After all, these climate scientists have proven themselves competent time and time again with milestones like climate-gate and Himalaya-Gate.
 

Throckmorton

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This doesn't add up... literally. The 250km globe image shows the measurement areas for the arctic almost all warmer than the average. So why does the graph show June being cooler than the average?
 

shira

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This doesn't add up... literally. The 250km globe image shows the measurement areas for the arctic almost all warmer than the average. So why does the graph show June being cooler than the average?

Because some people are willing to believe ANYTHING that denies climate change.

Science? Who needs science? Climate-change deniers know that climate change is a fraud because, . . . well . . ., just because.
 

Jaskalas

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Science? Who needs science? Climate-change deniers know that climate change is a fraud because, . . . well . . ., just because.

Science? Who needs science? Climate-change believers know that climate change is real because, . . . well . . ., just fill in the missing data with +4 degrees and call it a day.
 

Throckmorton

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Still waiting for an explanation of why this guy claims this June was cooler than average when that's not what the GISS data at 250km pixels shows.
 
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check this link http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php then click on different years and you can see. it may or may not be, but the article is pointing out that GISS doesn't have jack shit for data above 80n and they're just making it up.

Exactly. They even state that they "guessed" That's what an estimation is. They took a wild fucking stab in the dark as to what the temp is up there.

It's kind of like when they stop using data from weather station in colder climates because the data gathered from there shows that the temperature there isn't any different than it has ever been.
 

PokerGuy

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Hey, don't be posting actual facts that could lead to people losing faith in the Man Made Global Warming religion! Blasphemy! Long live the prophet Gore, may he smite the deniers. ;)
 

Throckmorton

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Hey, don't be posting actual facts that could lead to people losing faith in the Man Made Global Warming religion! Blasphemy! Long live the prophet Gore, may he smite the deniers. ;)

There is not a single fact in this thread that disproves global warming.
 

monovillage

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There is not a single fact in this thread that disproves global warming.

No, it just disproves the NASA/GISS claims about Arctic temperatures. Like Freeman Dyson said
"It is much easier for a scientist to sit in an air-conditioned building and run computer models, than to put on winter clothes and measure what is really happening outside in the swamps and the clouds. That is why the climate model experts end up believing their own models.”
 

drebo

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There is not a single fact in this thread that disproves global warming.

You can't prove a negative. There is no way to prove that global warming doesn't exist.

However, that does not automatically mean that global warming does exist, either.