"Girls are dumb."

yllus

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Now now, let's not jump to conclusions. This is just an amusing anecdote, and a quote from something you'd think would have turned out a lot differently.

At the 46:47 minute of the 'Quiz Show' broadcast from This American Life (public radio), they talked about the debut of the Oxygen Network. Oxygen at its creation featured a quiz show called 'Clued In' meant to showcase the intelligence of young women. Hey, it's no secret that women are excelling in school in ever greater numbers, and slowly but surely moving into every career line there is to be had.

Oxygen, however, found out something rather unpleasant: Young women absolutely sucked in answering the 'intelligent' questions on the show.

Host: "When stocks rise, it's a bull market. What animal symbolizes a market decline?"
Contestant 2: "Chicken?"
Host: "No. *chuckles* Good guess but incorrect."
Contestant 1: "Bird?"
Host: "No that's incorrect. You want to give it a shot Jackie?"
Contestant 3: "Nah."
Host: "No you don't? You won't embarrass yourself... Okay, actually the answer is a bear."

The host of This American Life (Ira Glass) asks a telling question to the producer of 'Clued In' who he's interviewing:

Glass: "Now this is a show on a network for women, and it's aimed at girls. Why is the host a guy?"
Producer: "Yeah, that is a great question. Well, we actually auditioned scores of women to be hosts of the show. There was one girl who was possibly a good fit for the show."
Glass: "And, um..."
Producer: "And she was not really pretty enough to be on TV."
Glass: "Are you serious? She was good but she wasn't pretty enough?"
Producer: "Um, yeah."

The producer of the show starts to realize - we have a problem. The made-for-TV solution? Dumb down the questions.

Glass: "So what do you do?"
Producer: "You give them questions that anyone, of any age, of any mental capacity could possibly answer."

Host: "Jesus is known as the son of who?"
Contestant 1: "God."
Host: "Without fumbling, who can spell her first name backwards."
Contestant 3: "E-I-T-A-K."
Host: "There you go! On the board with 400 points!"
Contestant 3: "I'll take 'Sign Me Up', please."
Host: "This is actually a physical challenge. We want to see who can get an autograph on their arm from the cutest boy in the audience. Okay, each of you, here's a pen, go go go!"

Wow. Well, I guess this leads me to the moral of the story as voiced by the producer of the now-defunct quiz show 'Clued In'.

Glass: "And the end of all this, how did you feel?"
Producer: "I felt... girls are dumb."
Glass: "Girls are dumb."
Producer: "Girls are dumb."
Glass: "Just listen to yourself."
Producer: "I know. This experience remains one of these things that I'm not entirely sure how to explain. I do think women are smart, but the lesson of what I saw versus what I want to believe is very different..."
Producer: "...for a lot of it, the girls seemed much more interested in just sort of showing this really superficial side to themselves. You know, that it was all about what they looked like and it was all about how they're presenting themselves as opposed to what was more on the inside and what seemed like good things to achieve."
 

pontifex

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:roll: i guess i'm dumb too because i don't know anything about the stock market.
 

yllus

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Originally posted by: pontifex
:roll: i guess i'm dumb too because i don't know anything about the stock market.
I don't know about that, but you might want to read up about what an anecdote is.
 

sixone

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I hope you're factoring in the type of young woman who would go out of her way to be on a television show, and then a show on the Oxygen network.
 

CKent

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It's not surprising. For the history of evolution males of most advanced species have had to compete for female attention, going to ever greater lengths. Females have had to sit there and enjoy the show. Which do you think promotes a healthier intellect? Evolution is a game of use it or lose it. This is also the principle behind why wolves are more intelligent than dogs.
 

absolu7

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for the most part, american girls arent exactly the smartest species. if you want to find substance go elsewhere.
 

AnyMal

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Originally posted by: pontifex
:roll: i guess i'm dumb too because i don't know anything about the stock market.

No, you're dumb because you can't read.
 

Kadarin

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The way I've heard the theory is that the better looking a woman is, the less incentive she has to develop her intelligence.
 

brxndxn

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"I think of a man.. and then I take away reason and accountability."
-- forget the movie; remember the quote

IMO, girls can be book smart fairly easily.. but it's so rare to see girls with any form of common sense. I find myself insanely attracted to girls that can just understand things the way I do..

Like.. whatever happened to girls that could cook without being scared of the raw meat? or that could just cook without needing exact ingredients?

 

Minerva

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Originally posted by: brxndxn
"I think of a man.. and then I take away reason and accountability."
-- forget the movie; remember the quote

IMO, girls can be book smart fairly easily.. but it's so rare to see girls with any form of common sense. I find myself insanely attracted to girls that can just understand things the way I do..

Like.. whatever happened to girls that could cook without being scared of the raw meat? or that could just cook without needing exact ingredients?

Jack Nicholson in As Good As It Gets.

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pontifex

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Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: pontifex
:roll: i guess i'm dumb too because i don't know anything about the stock market.

No, you're dumb because you can't read.

i can read perfectly fine. based on what i read, they said the girls were dumb because they couldn't answer a question about the stock market so they asked them to do dumb and easy things instead.
 

WHAMPOM

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: pontifex
:roll: i guess i'm dumb too because i don't know anything about the stock market.

No, you're dumb because you can't read.

i can read perfectly fine. based on what i read, they said the girls were dumb because they couldn't answer a question about the stock market so they asked them to do dumb and easy things instead.

It took you an hour and a quarter to figure that out. Your first post is right.
 

imported_Snagle

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Just a side note for those of you unfamiliar with This American Life: it's amazing. You owe it to yourself to start listening. They have all their old episodes available as free streams on their website or you can pay to DL them from Audible.com. They release last week's episode every Monday as a free podcast, the episode the OP is referring to is available as a free download as we speak.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: pontifex
:roll: i guess i'm dumb too because i don't know anything about the stock market.

No, you're dumb because you can't read.

i can read perfectly fine. based on what i read, they said the girls were dumb because they couldn't answer a question about the stock market so they asked them to do dumb and easy things instead.

It took you an hour and a quarter to figure that out. Your first post is right.

:confused: wtf are you talkign about? it didn't take me any time to figure anything out. I haven't been sitting here thinking about this thread since i made my 1st post...
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
All of the smart women know better than to go on that show.

BINGO

**EDIT**
And any girls too smart for the show probably get weeded out.
 

WHAMPOM

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Originally posted by: yllus
Now now, let's not jump to conclusions. This is just an amusing anecdote, and a quote from something you'd think would have turned out a lot differently.

At the 46:47 minute of the 'Quiz Show' broadcast from This American Life (public radio), they talked about the debut of the Oxygen Network. Oxygen at its creation featured a quiz show called 'Clued In' meant to showcase the intelligence of young women. Hey, it's no secret that women are excelling in school in ever greater numbers, and slowly but surely moving into every career line there is to be had.

Oxygen, however, found out something rather unpleasant: Young women absolutely sucked in answering the 'intelligent' questions on the show.

Host: "When stocks rise, it's a bull market. What animal symbolizes a market decline?"
Contestant 2: "Chicken?"
Host: "No. *chuckles* Good guess but incorrect."
Contestant 1: "Bird?"
Host: "No that's incorrect. You want to give it a shot Jackie?"
Contestant 3: "Nah."
Host: "No you don't? You won't embarrass yourself... Okay, actually the answer is a bear."

The host of This American Life (Ira Glass) asks a telling question to the producer of 'Clued In' who he's interviewing:

Glass: "Now this is a show on a network for women, and it's aimed at girls. Why is the host a guy?"
Producer: "Yeah, that is a great question. Well, we actually auditioned scores of women to be hosts of the show. There was one girl who was possibly a good fit for the show."
Glass: "And, um..."
Producer: "And she was not really pretty enough to be on TV."
Glass: "Are you serious? She was good but she wasn't pretty enough?"
Producer: "Um, yeah."

The producer of the show starts to realize - we have a problem. The made-for-TV solution? Dumb down the questions.

Glass: "So what do you do?"
Producer: "You give them questions that anyone, of any age, of any mental capacity could possibly answer."

Host: "Jesus is known as the son of who?"
Contestant 1: "God."
Host: "Without fumbling, who can spell her first name backwards."
Contestant 3: "E-I-T-A-K."
Host: "There you go! On the board with 400 points!"
Contestant 3: "I'll take 'Sign Me Up', please."
Host: "This is actually a physical challenge. We want to see who can get an autograph on their arm from the cutest boy in the audience. Okay, each of you, here's a pen, go go go!"

Wow. Well, I guess this leads me to the moral of the story as voiced by the producer of the now-defunct quiz show 'Clued In'.

Glass: "And the end of all this, how did you feel?"
Producer: "I felt... girls are dumb."
Glass: "Girls are dumb."
Producer: "Girls are dumb."
Glass: "Just listen to yourself."
Producer: "I know. This experience remains one of these things that I'm not entirely sure how to explain. I do think women are smart, but the lesson of what I saw versus what I want to believe is very different..."
Producer: "...for a lot of it, the girls seemed much more interested in just sort of showing this really superficial side to themselves. You know, that it was all about what they looked like and it was all about how they're presenting themselves as opposed to what was more on the inside and what seemed like good things to achieve."

Selection process? Submitted photos or a five hundred word essay? Which would you guess? (I want a smirking icon):pdon't do.
 

WHAMPOM

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: pontifex
:roll: i guess i'm dumb too because i don't know anything about the stock market.

No, you're dumb because you can't read.

i can read perfectly fine. based on what i read, they said the girls were dumb because they couldn't answer a question about the stock market so they asked them to do dumb and easy things instead.

It took you an hour and a quarter to figure that out. Your first post is right.

:confused: wtf are you talkign about? it didn't take me any time to figure anything out. I haven't been sitting here thinking about this thread since i made my 1st post...


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