Girl sues parents. Says they owe her.

[alkemyst]

It's nice for parents to pay for these things, but they should not be legally obligated.

Send her my way, I will straighten her out....

I bet you think that way and if you had kids would swear you shouldn't be responsible for their actions.

This thread is a train wreck.

So many parents saying they have no responsibility for their children.

 

[BUTCH1]

I bet you think that way and if you had kids would swear you shouldn't be responsible for their actions.

This thread is a train wreck.

So many parents saying they have no responsibility for their children.

Problem is at 18 your not legally a "child", if you want mommy and daddy to pay for you expensive private school and future collage better start following "their" rules or find a job and pay for it yourself. She could make some quick $$ in porn is she so desired but that lifestyle ultimately leads to drug addiction, abuse and a shattered life. As for her legal claims they're laughable at best.

 

[waggy]

Problem is at 18 your not legally a "child", if you want mommy and daddy to pay for you expensive private school and future collage better start following "their" rules or find a job and pay for it yourself. She could make some quick $$ in porn is she so desired but that lifestyle ultimately leads to drug addiction, abuse and a shattered life. As for her legal claims they're laughable at best.

/this

I have no trouble paying for school, sports, etc as long as my simple rules are fallowed. They don't want to fallow them and move out of the house? good luck.

 

[ViRGE]

Problem is at 18 your not legally a "child"

18 years old is hardly an adult if she's not even old enough to graduate high school yet. This is still someone who has yet to finish a basic education.

 

[JumBie]

Yeah the whole things smells a little funny. There must be more to the story. I have to say I was pleased, though, when my 19 year-old daughter posted on FB in response to the story: "She needs a swift kick in the ass."

Why would anyone want to have their daughter on facebook.

 

[disappoint]

White people are so funny.

Racists are even funnier.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

18 years old is hardly an adult if she's not even old enough to graduate high school yet. This is still someone who has yet to finish a basic education.

Well, it's clear that she has not learned anything important in 18 years. But it's hopelessly naive to believe there's a real difference between a senior in high school 3 months away from graduating and one that's already graduated. She's not going to gain a magical influx of knowledge, wisdom or maturity in the next three months, so her basic education is wrapped up. Who she is now is who she'll be in June. And if she thinks she's entitled to mommy and daddy's money without obeying mommy and daddy's rules then it's time she got a REAL education. She sorely needs one.

 

[SolMiester]

18 years old is hardly an adult if she's not even old enough to graduate high school yet. This is still someone who has yet to finish a basic education.

Are they not at 18, legal age to die for their country, vote, have children, pay taxes?...oops, hold on, they aren't allowed to drink yet though..

They are in many Western countries around the world.

 

[mikeford]

Typical media edit the facts to make a teaser story, whole story = not news, doesn't sell newspapers. Edited to show only quirky parts without simple underlying basis, page one.

 

[silverpig]

I read through some of the materials of the case and the daughter seems loopy.

She sent her dad an email asking if she could come home. He responded with a long message that was quite reasonable and polite, saying that they'd love for her to come back home, but she'd have to start respecting her mother and that she couldn't see her boyfriend (who apparently is a lot of trouble). She responded by telling the dad to get over himself.

Then there's an email to her mom where she says (amongst other things) that she (girl) wants to shit on her (mom's) face, cause that's what it looks like anyways. Or something like that.

 

[BoomerD]

The more I read about this, the more it pisses me off. Spoiled, indulged, demanding, entitled brat.
The dad says her college fund is intact...but IMO, it should be reduced to "community college funding levels" instead of a top-tier ivy league school like I presume it is currently...and maybe...remove her from her fancy Catholic school and let her finish her high school education in the local public high school.

 

[silverpig]

The more I read about this, the more it pisses me off. Spoiled, indulged, demanding, entitled brat.
The dad says her college fund is intact...but IMO, it should be reduced to "community college funding levels" instead of a top-tier ivy league school like I presume it is currently...and maybe...remove her from her fancy Catholic school and let her finish her high school education in the local public high school.

I think the article said she has a spot at the University of Vermont with a $20k scholarship. I don't know if that means anything about whether or not she got into an Ivy League.

 

[jaedaliu]

/this

I have no trouble paying for school, sports, etc as long as my simple rules are fallowed. They don't want to fallow them and move out of the house? good luck.

You're leaving your kids unplanted for a season so they can be more fertile and produce more crops the following season?

18 years old is hardly an adult if she's not even old enough to graduate high school yet. This is still someone who has yet to finish a basic education.

She's been old enough to graduate highschool for years. Her month of birth or being held back just means she's legally an adult before she graduated. There's also no requirement for her to continue going to an expensive private/religious school.

Reporting on the story makes it seem like everyone is insane except her parents. The people she's staying with want $ from her parents to pay for her upkeep. Maybe they should have talked to them before buying things for her/taking her out to dinner and expecting money back. Feeding 1 extra mouth from home isn't a lot of money. Giving her lunch money and stuff like that with expectations to be paid back without asking first is silly.

 

[Scotteq]

This case was heard in court yesterday afternoon.

She Got Nothing: Ruling on college tuition "delayed", with an admonition that the attorneys consider whether it's wise to "establish precedent where parents have to live in fear of establishing rules of the house".

The judge also denied her requests for weekly allowance, additional support, and attorney fees.

 

[unokitty]

With the young lady leaving phone mail messages for her mom like this, I can see how there could be domestic disharmony...

Then again, 18 years and two months was the average age of my Jan 70 Basic Training Company.

Apparently, times have changed.

Best of luck to the young lady's family and to the young lady.

Uno

 

[Axon]

I read through some of the materials of the case and the daughter seems loopy.

She sent her dad an email asking if she could come home. He responded with a long message that was quite reasonable and polite, saying that they'd love for her to come back home, but she'd have to start respecting her mother and that she couldn't see her boyfriend (who apparently is a lot of trouble). She responded by telling the dad to get over himself.

Then there's an email to her mom where she says (amongst other things) that she (girl) wants to shit on her (mom's) face, cause that's what it looks like anyways. Or something like that.

Correct. I have read through the complaint thoroughly, and there is not a scintilla of evidence that they "forced" her to leave. The family has been fighting with her over her dickhead boyfriend, whom the parents don't like. Daughter refused to break up with the kid, causing a huge uproar. She left voluntarily, but without much resistance from the parents.

Subsequently, when the tempers died down, the dad said, listen, come home, but you've got to dump this loser. Daughter said no way. The mom and the daughter also have some emails, but they're irrelevant to the case. She clearly resents her mother.

I'm sure the Mom is a typical helicopter parent, but the Dad seems like a straight shooter. Bottom line: if you live in your parents home, you live by their rules. Parents are not obligated to give a child who voluntarily left the home a penny. NJ law is clear on that and the judge gave this kid a very, very hard time for that yesterday.

And just so everyone knows, her order to show cause was struck down yesterday. There will a general hearing a few weeks where I suspect the case will be dismissed. Since all the other random silliness was denied, the parties are now essentially arguing over who has control of the trust account that her college money is in.

 

[Markbnj]

The family has been fighting with her over her dickhead boyfriend, whom the parents don't like. Daughter refused to break up with the kid, causing a huge uproar.

Speaking as the father of three girls aged 17 - 21, this is a losing battle, every time. Not that I actually had to deal with a boyfriend I disliked that much, but there have been a few friends over the years that we would have preferred not be around. You don't get to pick them. All you can do is hope you've taught the kids well enough that they eventually recognize idiots.

 

[Markbnj]

Why would anyone want to have their daughter on facebook.

Do you have a daughter? If not, let me know when you do, and whether it matters that you don't think much of Facebook.

The daughter in question is 19, btw. I don't tell her which websites to visit anymore.

 

[Axon]

Speaking as the father of three girls aged 17 - 21, this is a losing battle, every time. Not that I actually had to deal with a boyfriend I disliked that much, but there have been a few friends over the years that we would have preferred not be around. You don't get to pick them. All you can do is hope you've taught the kids well enough that they eventually recognize idiots.

I agree. Daughter is only 3 and my son is 7, but already with my son I see I can't control who he is friendly with. Fortunately my son already chimes in with "John did X and I didn't want to." He also told on a school bully for pulling down a girl's pants and then fought the bully when he got in his face (if you can call a hair pulling match a fight). A single tear.

 

[Fritzo]

18 years old is hardly an adult if she's not even old enough to graduate high school yet. This is still someone who has yet to finish a basic education.

There's some legal precedence in NY that anyone under 21 that is under the parent's sphere of influence is obligated to be supported by the parents. I wonder if the lawyers are playing this card.

 

[surfsatwerk]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/04/justice/student-sues-parents-new-jersey/

Kid loses first round.

 

[Greenman]

I bet you think that way and if you had kids would swear you shouldn't be responsible for their actions.

This thread is a train wreck.

So many parents saying they have no responsibility for their children.

I haven't seen that yet, could you quote it please?

 

[Markbnj]

Judge Bogaard was not impressed.

http://www.nj.com/morris/index.ssf/2014/03/judge_issues_ruling_in_teens_suit_against_parents.html

 

[xanis]

Judge Bogaard was not impressed.

http://www.nj.com/morris/index.ssf/2014/03/judge_issues_ruling_in_teens_suit_against_parents.html

A rare victory for common sense. :thumbsup:

 

[PokerGuy]

The fact that this was not immediately laughed out of court and the lawyer bringing the case disbarred shows how messed up the laws in NJ (or pretty much anywhere in the country) really are. This idiot kid wants to live her life by her rules and not have to follow those set out by her parents, but at the same time wants them to be forced to pay for her college and other expenses. She should get nothing but a swift kick in the butt. If you are an adult, your parents should have no further obligation to care for you than they do for any other adult in the world (ie, none, unless they so choose). If you agree to live by their rules and they in turn want to pay for your expenses, that's fine, but there should never be an obligation for them to do or pay for anything for someone's who's an adult.