Gingrich wanted public execution for possession of weed.

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WHAMPOM

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When you have a President that believes in killing people because they are brown, I can't see how Newt can be any worse.

Newt just stroking his base with what they want to hear. But Mr. FNE, did the thought of public pot executions make you cum, is the question ?
 

Howard

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I don't know why I keep coming back to P&N. Maybe it's just to laugh at all the retards.
 

JTsyo

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To be fair, it's actually for smuggling, not simple possession, and it's for the second offense. First offense is life without parole. Let's just get that out of the way.

Wait, what? You get life without parole for first offense but if you get caught a 2nd time (while you serving your life sentence) you get death? This is to discourage drugs in prison? Don't think there are many children in prison that need to be protected from drugs. :whiste:
 

wetech

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Wait, what? You get life without parole for first offense but if you get caught a 2nd time (while you serving your life sentence) you get death? This is to discourage drugs in prison? Don't think there are many children in prison that need to be protected from drugs. :whiste:

reading the text, looks more like if it can be proven that you've smuggled the required amount on more then 1 occassion, not get caught 2nd time.
 

CptObvious

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From the law itself, which I posted:

"(G)1000 kilograms or more of a mixture or substance containing a detectable amount of marihuana; or"

1000 kilograms. That is literally ONE METRIC TON.

That is why I asked if you read the bill...which would also require you to read the law it amends.
The stupidity of Newt's bill extends beyond marijuana. Under the logic of his law, someone who would be found with 5 kilos of tea leaves with some coca leaves mixed in would get life in prison with no parole, and the second violation would be an automatic death sentence.
 

DCal430

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It takes a certain type of person to come into a DCal430 thread and expect an ounce of truth. The dude is one of the bigger pathological liars, and teller of fibs on this forum.

:rolleyes: I haven't lied at all here. I just commented on what another site was saying.
 

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One ton of the mixture, not 1 ton of weed. So you could have an ounce of weed mixed into a ton of mixture.


Correct, but do you seriously think someone would mix an ounce of weed into a ton of something else?

But, since that is the law and they broke it on purpose, they should be punished accordingly.
 

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I had not read the law. I'd have to put the two together to be 100% certain your read is correct, but it appears to me it is. I still stand by my sentiment that this would be a stupid addition to the law. The death penalty is already available as a sanction for importation of large amounts of drugs - it has had no apparent deterrent effect.


I already linked to both of them, above.

The death penalty has never been a deterrent...but then jail sentences have not been a deterrent either.

One this the death penalty has going for it is that no one who was ever executed has gone on to be a repeat offender.
 

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The stupidity of Newt's bill extends beyond marijuana. Under the logic of his law, someone who would be found with 5 kilos of tea leaves with some coca leaves mixed in would get life in prison with no parole, and the second violation would be an automatic death sentence.


Simple solution is to NOT mix the illegal items into your legal items. Pretty simple, eh? Some would say that it is very obvious...
 

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Wait, what? You get life without parole for first offense but if you get caught a 2nd time (while you serving your life sentence) you get death? This is to discourage drugs in prison? Don't think there are many children in prison that need to be protected from drugs. :whiste:

Life in prison without the possibility of parole does not actually mean you will spend your life in prison.

Sadly, "life" is defined differently based on the state in which you are sentenced. Some states it means your entire life, others only mean 20 years.
 
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And the proposed change added "100 usual dosage amounts" to violations under that law. So unless you're claiming 10 kg of weed is a usual dosage, you're misrepresenting the bill.
Clearly you've never been to Humboldt County. 10 kg of weed is served with breakfast... at 3 PM.
 

xj0hnx

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:rolleyes: I haven't lied at all here. I just commented on what another site was saying.

This is your MO, fantabulous fictional stories, that you're "just passing on".

Oh, and here's your lie ...

Gingrich wanted mass public executions for as little as 2 oz of weed. This is the sick fucks the republicans want.

You are an idiot on every level.
 
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CptObvious

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I already linked to both of them, above.

The death penalty has never been a deterrent...but then jail sentences have not been a deterrent either.

One this the death penalty has going for it is that no one who was ever executed has gone on to be a repeat offender.
So the first time offender gets life in prison, where the chances of a second offense are greatly reduced. But you admit that jail is not a deterrant. So what's the overall effect of Newt's law? Putting even more people in overcrowded jails where the taxpayer has to feed and take care of them for life.
 

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So the first time offender gets life in prison, where the chances of a second offense are greatly reduced. But you admit that jail is not a deterrant.

Correct, the threat of jail is not a detterent. Had you followed along in the conversation, this would have been obvious.

So what's the overall effect of Newt's law? Putting even more people in overcrowded jails where the taxpayer has to feed and take care of them for life.

You mean Newt's admendment to the existing law, correct? It is to do exactly what it says to do. Life in prison (which means only 20 years in some states) for major drug runners and execution for those who continue to run the drugs even after being busted the first time - ie, show they refuse to learn and stop committing the crime.
 

CptObvious

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You mean Newt's admendment to the existing law, correct? It is to do exactly what it says to do. Life in prison (which means only 20 years in some states) for major drug runners and execution for those who continue to run the drugs even after being busted the first time - ie, show they refuse to learn and stop committing the crime.
Um, this is federal law, not state law we're talking about.

Even if we were talking about states, please enlighten me as to which states interpret a life imprisonment as only 20 years?
 

cybrsage

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Ah...apparently the laws have all been changed in the last decade. I stand corrected on the Life in Prison without Parole. It means you stay in prison until your governor or the President releases you as a political favor to someone.
 

xj0hnx

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Keep on thinking that. I am not going to spend time trying to discourage you from supporting Newt :D

Don't support him in any way, shape, or form, pointing out the stupidity in your post doesn't mean that in real life. More win for my expectations of you.
 

wirelessenabled

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Do you ever engage in substantive discussion, or just post this kind of snipe? This is literally the only kind of post I've ever seen you make. As I asked you in another thread, are you pleased that Gingrich is your party's front runner? Do you believe he's the best man for the job? Do you agree that public executions for marijuana are a wise idea?


+1
 

werepossum

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How is that even possible?


If you're doing life without parole for smuggling, how does one commit a 2nd offense?
This law would have offered us critically needed protection against violent drug dealers in all very large prisons that straddle the border.

Duh!