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Gingrich supporting Overturning Child Labor Laws

Siddhartha

Siddhartha

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Mr Gingrinch has mentioned putting poor children to work cleaning schools. Is this something the Republicans are talking about in private?

Will this be something the Congressional Republicans add to budget bills in the future?
 
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Siddhartha said:
Gingrich supporting Overturning Child Labor Laws

Mr Gingrinch as mentioned putting poor children to work cleaning schools. Is this something the Republicans are talking about in private?

Will this be something the Congressional Republicans add to budget bill in the future?
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Just part of the goal Republicans have to get the country to $2 hr wages.
 
What is wrong with this statement:

”I tried for years to have a very simple model,” he continued. “Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school. The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they’d have pride in the schools, they’d begin the process of rising.”
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Siddhartha said:
The context is overturning labor laws to replaced union workers with cheap child labor. Is the answer to OP question is yes the GOP could support this?
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No, it is not.

EDIT: I should explain. A school's primary function is to teach students, not employ union members. By hiring students to care for and maintain the school, they are teaching them about personal responsibility, workplace ethics, how the workplace functions, etc. By saying union jobs are more important than teaching students real life lessons, you are saying the primary purpose of schools is to hire union workers.
 
cybrsage said:
No, it is not.

EDIT: I should explain. A school's primary function is to teach students, not employ union members. By hiring students to care for and maintain the school, they are teaching them about personal responsibility, workplace ethics, how the workplace functions, etc. By saying union jobs are more important than teaching students real life lessons, you are saying the primary purpose of schools is to hire union workers.
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Okay, so some people, including you, do not consider Mr Gingrich's idea to be radical.
 
cybrsage said:
It is sad that some people consider teaching kids in a school to be a radical idea.
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Generalize much?

During the school day I want my kids in class learning meaningful skills and content, not mopping the floor. After school, I want them in activities and doing homework, having fun, socializing, and extending their learning - not cleaning toilets. Mopping floors isn't learning, if that is what you want for your kid then it says a lot about you.
 
JACKHAMMER said:
Generalize much?

During the school day I want my kids in class learning meaningful skills and content, not mopping the floor. After school, I want them in activities and doing homework, having fun, socializing, and extending their learning - not cleaning toilets. Mopping floors isn't learning, if that is what you want for your kid then it says a lot about you.
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Can you explain what these "meaningful skills" are they will be learning?


You want your kids to not learn about how to be a good employee or about good work ethics...while claiming you want them to be "extending their learning". I have to ask when you mean by "extending their learning". Do you mean "going to parties"?
 
cybrsage said:
Can you explain what these "meaningful skills" are they will be learning?


You want your kids to not learn about how to be a good employee or about good work ethics...while claiming you want them to be "extending their learning". I have to ask when you mean by "extending their learning". Do you mean "going to parties"?
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Are you dense? Reading, writing, math, science, history - you know, material you learn in school. And, I consider homework to extend that learning. Where did I imply that going to parties was learning. Don't try to misdirect.

And no I am not concerned with trying to teach my kids to be subservient, and be god little employees. I want them to creative, self-starting, and innovative. I expect more from them than enjoying mopping floors at school.
 
Siddhartha said:
The context is overturning labor laws to replaced union workers with cheap child labor. Is the answer to OP question is yes the GOP could support this?
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The context is that some of the Child Labor laws are not needed and should be removed to allow children to be able to work some positions.

It was not intended to remove all child labor laws and replace union positions.
Now if the Dems want to try to put those words in the mouth, it shows how desperate they are.
 
Your only a kid once, let em enjoy it.
working for piddly cash doesnt teach them what the real world won't when their older.

I worked as kid...at 6 i was tossing rocks out of grandpa's garden, mowing the lawn..etc. at 13 i was out detasseling corn all summer and various work in winter. at 15 i was working at a graveyard

i didnt learn crap, i wasted my money on stupid crap, i lost out on years of fun i shouldve had with friends
 
EagleKeeper said:
The context is that some of the Child Labor laws are not needed and should be removed to allow children to be able to work some positions.

It was not intended to remove all child labor laws and replace union positions.
Now if the Dems want to try to put those words in the mouth, it shows how desperate they are.
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Desperate, huh? That's what it shows? 😕
 
cybrsage said:
What is wrong with this statement:
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in that context i totally agree with him. I started working when i was 13 in my fathers and grandfathers business. I know many kids who were working on farms younger (nearly everyone has chores on a farm).

i agree having kids work at the school cleaning would be good.


I wouldn't want to risk taking away child labor laws though.
 
I guess it might make students work harder in school if they had to do jobs like this so they didn't have to do it later in life. But really there are much better uses of a child's time, that will get much larger benefits later in life.
 
I guess it really just matters how something like this is implemented. Showing some basic work skills isn't a bad idea along with having some responsibility. But I just see this system taking advantage of children to lower costs of doing things, along with it's easy to take advantage of a child because they wouldn't know any better.
 
Paul98 said:
I guess it might make students work harder in school if they had to do jobs like this so they didn't have to do it later in life. But really there are much better uses of a child's time, that will get much larger benefits later in life.
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i agree. But for some kids a program like this would be perfect. Let's face it not all kids should be (or want to be) in college. We still need janitors and people willing to do those jobs that are not in a office.
 
waggy said:
i agree. But for some kids a program like this would be perfect. Let's face it not all kids should be (or want to be) in college. We still need janitors and people willing to do those jobs that are not in a office.
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We do need janitors. I fail to see how replacing decent paying unionized janitor jobs with child labor (in the context of the OPs post) helps those janitors or these kids who will eventually inhabit these jobs.
 
JACKHAMMER said:
Are you dense? Reading, writing, math, science, history - you know, material you learn in school. And, I consider homework to extend that learning. Where did I imply that going to parties was learning. Don't try to misdirect.
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They already have classes for them. What classes are being taken away?

And no I am not concerned with trying to teach my kids to be subservient, and be god little employees. I want them to creative, self-starting, and innovative. I expect more from them than enjoying mopping floors at school.
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In other words, you are trying to teach them to be non-employable. Parenting fail.

Other than you, who said they had to enjoy mopping floors? One of the biggest lessons learned is that if they do not take school seriously, they will be forced to do that for the rest of their lives. A good lesson to learn.
 
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