Gigabyte 1070 FE - pull trigger?

[happy medium]

https://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Rad...=UTF8&qid=1482957981&sr=8-2&keywords=nitro+r9

Look to the right under other sellers. You will see Amazon has it for $259

That's $259 with no rebate and tax. Final total would be like $280. and its on back order.

 

[easye-at]

That's $259 with no rebate and tax. Final total would be like $280. and its on back order.

There's a rebate. You just need to search it on Althon Micro rebate site. I had it filled out.

I think it's going to be between a RX480 8GB ~$200-$225 (MSI or XFX) or see what Vega can bring.

 

[happy medium]

i5-4670K

overclocked or stock?

 

[easye-at]

overclocked or stock?

Stock with aftermarket cooler on it.

 

[monkeydelmagico]

All,

I see Gigabyte has a very nice rebate ($40) on this card until 12/31. Couple that with Discover Cash back 5% off (need to verify that Discover would consider it). I could get Gigabyte 1070 FE out the door at $319 ($379 - $40 MIR - 5% Cash Back = $319).

Worth it to pull the trigger? How long would it be relevant for?

This would be an upgrade from 7950 Twin Frozr (probably could sell it for $50 or so I think).


Ugh.... tempted but not sure if its the right move, especially since 1070 is close to 6 months old.

So did you buy your 7950 when it was first released? If so, it was around $450.- A 1070 for $319.- is a good deal even if it is only "relevant" for 2 years.

 

[easye-at]

So did you buy your 7950 when it was first released? If so, it was around $450.- A 1070 for $319.- is a good deal even if it is only "relevant" for 2 years.

I bought 7950 08/2013 for $199.99 (even less when I sold Crysis 3)

 

[happy medium]

Stock with aftermarket cooler on it.

You will need to overclock it a bit to see the full potential of a gtx1070 @ 1080p res.

I suggest the $319 gtx1070, that's an excellent deal. uses less power than a rx480, and is at least 32% faster.
That is one of the best deals on the internet.

Waiting for Vega is not a great idea, unless you can wait 4 or 5 months to have about the same performance for about the same price. I find it hard to believe that Vega will be $319, and be much faster than a gtx1070. even if it is ,you could be enjoying max settings for he next 5 months with the gtx1070, why wait?

 

[easye-at]

You will need to overclock it a bit to see the full potential of a gtx1070 @ 1080p res.

I suggest the $319 gtx1070, that's an excellent deal. uses less power than a rx480, and is at least 32% faster.
That is one of the best deals on the internet.

Waiting for Vega is not a great idea, unless you can wait 4 or 5 months to have about the same performance for about the same price. I find it hard to believe that Vega will be under $350 and be much faster than a gtx1070. even if it is ,you could be enjoying max settings for he next 5 months with the gtx1070, why wait?

That is via Newegg, I would have to get it via Amazon which I pay tax because I have gift cards.... changes the game for me.

 

[happy medium]

That is via Newegg, I would have to get it via Amazon which I pay tax because I have gift cards.... changes the game for me.

SO now your saying you can only buy at Amazon because you want to use gift cards?

 

[easye-at]

SO now your saying you can only buy at Amazon because you want to use gift cards?

Yeah, I changed my mind unfortunately. I don't even know if I need a 1070, a 1060 might be good enough for the right price.

 

[happy medium]

Yeah, I changed my mind unfortunately. I don't even know if I need a 1070, a 1060 might be good enough for the right price.

https://www.amazon.com/PNY-GeForce-...ements=p_n_feature_four_browse-bin:6066317011

Try to get it without tax.

 

[easye-at]

https://www.amazon.com/PNY-GeForce-Gaming-Overclocked-VCGGTX10606XGPB-OC/dp/B01L9K8X26/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1482959460&sr=1-4&keywords=GTX+1060+6GB&refinements=p_n_feature_four_browse-bin:6066317011

Try to get it without tax.

Impossible. Plus, it doesn't even look like its on sale or discounted.

 

[Bacon1]

If you want 480 from amazon

XFX Red 8GB is $230 and doesn't appear to have tax and is prime

https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Red-DDR5-1288MHz-RX-480P8LFR6/dp/B01MYOD9AU/

There is a 1060 6gb Zotac Mini for $240 + tax

https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-Compact-Graphics-ZT-P10600A-10L/dp/B01IA9FEOO/

@ $230 even if the 1070 is 32% faster its still more than 32% more expensive (esp inc tax)

 

[easye-at]

If you want 480 from amazon

XFX Red 8GB is $230 and doesn't appear to have tax and is prime

https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Red-DDR5-1288MHz-RX-480P8LFR6/dp/B01MYOD9AU/

There is a 1060 6gb Zotac Mini for $240 + tax

https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-Compact-Graphics-ZT-P10600A-10L/dp/B01IA9FEOO/

@ $230 even if the 1070 is 32% faster its still more than 32% more expensive (esp inc tax)

Here is the hard thing, I am such a tightwad yet I make a good living. For some reason, I have such a problem with buying GPUs because there are so many fricking options: I want the card that can be OCed the best, best fans, best performance, best price.

Then at the end of it all, I don't even use it TOO much. That is why I am going for longevity and bang for my buck. I would love to snag a 1070 OTD at $300.

TLDR I want cake and to eat it too.

 

[DamZe]

Here is the hard thing, I am such a tightwad yet I make a good living. For some reason, I have such a problem with buying GPUs because there are so many fricking options: I want the card that can be OCed the best, best fans, best performance, best price.

Then at the end of it all, I don't even use it TOO much. That is why I am going for longevity and bang for my buck. I would love to snag a 1070 OTD at $300.

TLDR I want cake and to eat it too.

Here are your options, this will be my last post for this thread.

1. RX 480 8GB - for under $250 is a great card for 1080p, it has 2GB more of framebuffer, almost 2x the shaders than the 1060 and a wider bus which means it has 25% more bandwidth which will become handy in the future, plus a more robust DX12/Vulkan compatibility and Freesync which will soon become the industry standard for monitors, almost every new and affordable monitor is getting on board with the standard, the XFX variant I linked can OC and is a very stable card reviews are excellent for the XFX AIB 480 versions.

2. Founder Edition GTX 1070 - for $319 it seems to be the "perfect" price, although you aren't getting any premium cooling, components or construction with these reference cards despite what nVidia wants us to believe, also the FE 1070 has no vapor chamber cooling solution as its bigger 1080 brother. The Pascal card is a stunning performer in 1080p and for the most part can pull its weight in 1440p with high detail levels so that is viable. As for DX12/Vulkan, it has some advantages over Maxwell cards in how it schedules tasks with preemption, but it still is not ideal, luckily the high GPU clock is able to brute force more performance making it a very competent card, I should know I own one!

Whatever you do, don't get a GTX 1060 6GB over a RX480 8GB, the AMD card will most likely be ahead in the near future, with newest drivers it performs almost identically to the GTX 1060 in DX11 and easily leads it in DX12/Vulkan, you get the picture.

I hope you find the card that is going to work for you, as you seem to want to extract the most value for your money the XFX RX 480 8GB is a no brainer IMHO, the GTX 1070 is more expensive but will also be faster, but only you know which price point justifies your gaming needs.

 

[zinfamous]

NO way will a 480 even come close to a gtx1070,ever, that's a blatant lie.
The 1070 is at least 32% faster than a 480.
Please don't show us 1 game that heavily favors AMD's cards that is close.
A gtx1060 still outperforms a 480 by 4% and a 1060 overclocked vs a fully overclocked 480 by 7% in 98 out of 100 titles.

nope, not true at all. 480 now solidly matches or slightly (1-2%) beats 1060 at DX11 and thoroughly beats it in DX12 Vulkan after the last 2 rounds of driver updates. and hey--a full 6 months before I told you that would happen!

but I agree that a 480 outperforming a 1070 is a joke. Maybe in one Vulcan game, but that would be such an outlier it's not worth mentioning.

 

[Thinker_145]

A 1060 still beats 480 in TPU charts and they only use 2015/2016 games now. Let's not jump the gun.

A 1070 is 43% faster so once again stop over rating AMD cards to the moon. When calling people out gets moderated then such blatant misinformation should also be.

A 1070 with a free game is the best value right now. For someone not limited by budget there is no reason to settle for less.

 

[ReignQuake]

I have the GeForce GTX 1070 Mini ITX in SLI and they're amazing cards from a heat, noise and performance perspective. I say go for it. I've never been unhappy even when SLI is disabled. It'll probably last until you decide to replace it, which will probably be earlier than the three years you're looking for it to last right now.

 

[tential]

You should have kept the Fury purchase.

That said, I don't think the 1070 is right for you. At 1080p and just based off my GUT feeling from you in this thread I don't think it's right for you.
But my recommendation requires you to change how you purchase GPUs. You're looking for a GPU that lasts 3+ years.
That simply doesn't happen now. You don't keep high level performance for long. Games pretty much target current GPUs out.

So I would recommend a GTX 1060/RX480 (Whichever, honestly, it's not relevant the argument as to which is better. Just get whichever you can at the cheapest price with decent cooling).
Then I'd recommend upgrading every 2 years, and selling your old GPU off. You'll recoup 60-75% of your cost.
So you'd buy a GPU for ~$250. Sell it for $175 ~2 years later and repeat. You'll spend outright $400 over those 4 years, but recoup ~$300. So you'll spend total $100 over that time. Instead of spending a $300-400 now, holding it for 3-4 years until the resale value plummets, then selling it for $100-150. You'll also stay closer to your mainstream target resolution of 1080p (or whatever the target resolution is later).

I just see little to no benefit in buying a higher end GPU to "last longer". You're better off buying the 1060/rx480 class GPU and upgrading/selling regularly and paying the cheap "yearly fee" of PC gaming.

 

[zinfamous]

A 1060 still beats 480 in TPU charts and they only use 2015/2016 games now. Let's not jump the gun.

A 1070 is 43% faster so once again stop over rating AMD cards to the moon. When calling people out gets moderated then such blatant misinformation should also be.

A 1070 with a free game is the best value right now. For someone not limited by budget there is no reason to settle for less.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru.../73945-gtx-1060-vs-rx-480-updated-review.html


But as for the OP, I would have gone with the 1070 at that price. The Fury is not shabby at all at that price, though.

 

[Thinker_145]

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru.../73945-gtx-1060-vs-rx-480-updated-review.html


But as for the OP, I would have gone with the 1070 at that price. The Fury is not shabby at all at that price, though.

We don't see an overall average.

 

[Mezzanine]

I have a 1070 FE, it's quiet and runs at about 72c. It handles 1440p 60hz with ease and the card looks sexy IMO.

Plus you get Nvidia's excellent drivers and support unlike the competition.

 

[ZGR]

Plus you get Nvidia's excellent drivers and support unlike the competition.

The driver releases I've had for the 1070 have been a bug ridden roller-coaster ride while my R9 290 has had excellent stability and support despite living in multiple PC's throughout its life.


I can say I've had the complete opposite experience.

At 1080p, the 1070 is a much better choice over Fury. But Fury is more than capable as well, as 1080p60 is such an easy resolution to run that an RX 480 8GB will seem overkill at times as well. I can't suggest the 1060 because the RX 480 will most likely age better at the end of its life cycle. I can only suggest the 1060 if you want it in a notebook.

Get a cheap 1070 if you plan on playing above 1080p60 but if not, the RX 480 8GB will be a great choice and even do 1440p60 just fine.

 

[Bacon1]

Plus you get Nvidia's excellent drivers and support unlike the competition.

Can we please keep the lies out of this thread?

So I would recommend a GTX 1060/RX480 (Whichever, honestly, it's not relevant the argument as to which is better. Just get whichever you can at the cheapest price with decent cooling).
Then I'd recommend upgrading every 2 years, and selling your old GPU off. You'll recoup 60-75% of your cost.
So you'd buy a GPU for ~$250. Sell it for $175 ~2 years later and repeat. You'll spend outright $400 over those 4 years, but recoup ~$300. So you'll spend total $100 over that time. Instead of spending a $300-400 now, holding it for 3-4 years until the resale value plummets, then selling it for $100-150. You'll also stay closer to your mainstream target resolution of 1080p (or whatever the target resolution is later).

I just see little to no benefit in buying a higher end GPU to "last longer". You're better off buying the 1060/rx480 class GPU and upgrading/selling regularly and paying the cheap "yearly fee" of PC gaming.

100% this. GPUs don't last long anymore because devs aren't optimizing the games very well. For every great optimized game like Doom, GOW and BF1 we have tons like Dishonored 2 that make even a 1080 choke hard @ 1080p in areas.

Your best bet is to buy mid-high range more often than try to keep a single high end card for a long time. Since the next mid-high == last year's top end. Unless you need to "max" everything or play > 2k resolution buying mid-high more often is better experience overall.

So Cheap Fury X, 480 or 1060 6gb will serve you very well, or if you can somehow manage to get a 1070 under $300.

 

[tential]

Can we please keep the lies out of this thread?


100% this. GPUs don't last long anymore because devs aren't optimizing the games very well. For every great optimized game like Doom, GOW and BF1 we have tons like Dishonored 2 that make even a 1080 choke hard @ 1080p in areas.

Your best bet is to buy mid-high range more often than try to keep a single high end card for a long time. Since the next mid-high == last year's top end. Unless you need to "max" everything or play > 2k resolution buying mid-high more often is better experience overall.

So Cheap Fury X, 480 or 1060 6gb will serve you very well, or if you can somehow manage to get a 1070 under $300.

I really feel buying gpus is for staying on a gpu cycle. In that case, if you aren't dying to upgrade and are on a 7950 and don't want to spend much I can't recommend going up to the 1070 cycle for a person who doesn't seem to be dying for that level of performance. He looks frugal. I know people making quite a bit of money who won't buy a 1070 because they don't need that level of performance. I feel that's the op.

The 1070 doesn't unlock much extra in terms of settings or resolution so if that isn't important to you you should just stay on the 1060/480 cycle.

This is why I'm waiting for the 1080ti to come out and the amd competition so that I can be on the cycle that fits my desired level of performance. After that, you just buy and sell and it's paying the same amount in the long run as you used to when you just used a gpu for a long time, but you get better overall performance. Hard to beat.