Gibson SG vs Gibson Les Paul

[kevinthenerd]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
I much prefer the Parker Fly Deluxe

http://www.parkerguitars.com/code/models/models_fly_deluxe_intro.asp

That's the only musical instrument I would describe as sexy, except maybe a Yamaha acoustic grand piano.

Ack! You're on your own on that one.

You just won't know what I'm talking about until you feel what it's like playing it. While it's so high tech, you can tell that it took more than just mechanical engineering to develop (i.e. carbon fiber neck, cast aluminum vibratto bridge saddles, etc.). This guitar is pure sex.

My friend has one. He's since moved on to a more pure, natural sound (and therefore to things with less man-made materials), but this is still my favorite guitar in his collection.

 

[kevinthenerd]

Originally posted by: DonVito
I can't deal with the aesthetics of the SG or the weight of the Les Paul. Give me a Strat or Telecaster anyday over the Gibsons.

I can agree that I like the strat. The only problem is that it's become a standard from which many guitars are based (such as my Yamaha).

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
I much prefer the Parker Fly Deluxe

http://www.parkerguitars.com/code/models/models_fly_deluxe_intro.asp

That's the only musical instrument I would describe as sexy, except maybe a Yamaha acoustic grand piano.

Ack! You're on your own on that one.

You just won't know what I'm talking about until you feel what it's like playing it. While it's so high tech, you can tell that it took more than just mechanical engineering to develop (i.e. carbon fiber neck, cast aluminum vibratto bridge saddles, etc.). This guitar is pure sex.

My friend has one. He's since moved on to a more pure, natural sound (and therefore to things with less man-made materials), but this is still my favorite guitar in his collection.

I agree with you. Parkers are so friggin sweet. I've played them, I would love to have one.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

You just won't know what I'm talking about until you feel what it's like playing it. While it's so high tech, you can tell that it took more than just mechanical engineering to develop (i.e. carbon fiber neck, cast aluminum vibratto bridge saddles, etc.). This guitar is pure sex.

My friend has one. He's since moved on to a more pure, natural sound (and therefore to things with less man-made materials), but this is still my favorite guitar in his collection.

I guess what I'd wonder is whether the guitar could be better by virtue of having a carbon neck. I would intuitively think it would be worse (other than the fact it would presumably require less maintenance because of its non-susceptibility to warping). I have actually always been impressed with Steinbergers, because of their technological ingenuity (specifically their pitch-correct tremolo bars), and to some extent I like their ultra-Spartan aesthetics, in that they are purely modern creations. That Parker seems to me to be neither fish nor fowl - it obviously has a wooden body, and that neck is hideous IMO. Maybe I would need to handle one, but honestly I can't imagine buying a guitar that ugly.

 

[Kenazo]

I wish I could play well enough that it made a difference which guitar I played.

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: Kenazo
I wish I could play well enough that it made a difference which guitar I played.

:laugh:

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
both guitars suffer from "chainsaw" syndrome when distorted, and both don't take kindly to rough playing of any sort, whether it be the strings falling off their trees on the bridge, or the neck snapping off... all things considered, i'd take the SG for the lighter body, more focused sound, and cooler look.

I have no idea what you're talking about. Humbuckers on a solid body are the ideal setup for heavy playing.

That said, the SG and the Les Paul are designed for two different purposes. The solid heavy body of the LP is for smooth tone. The SG has a thinner neck and the higher frets are exposed, so it's geared more to people that like to play fast and high.

I'm a LP fan because my large hands match well with the LP's large eliptical neck.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: drpootums
I love my Les Paul (granted it's an Epiphone, but they're made by Gibson so it's kinda the same thing)

Not unless you have the Epiphone Elitist model. Epiphone doesn't use a solid body (the inside is hollow), uses sub par pickups, and a bolt on neck. You can mod an Epi to sound great though- add some Burstbucker pickups, Grover mini tuners, and you'll have a decent jamming axe.

EDIT: Oh, and here's the required pic of my Black Beauty: '72 LP Black Beauty

 

[mrrman]

The SG has a deeper tone while the Les paul sounded crisper and richer

 

[mrrman]

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
I much prefer the Parker Fly Deluxe

http://www.parkerguitars.com/code/models/models_fly_deluxe_intro.asp

That's the only musical instrument I would describe as sexy, except maybe a Yamaha acoustic grand piano.

Never heard of the Parker...what does this model cost??

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: drpootums
I love my Les Paul (granted it's an Epiphone, but they're made by Gibson so it's kinda the same thing)

Not unless you have the Epiphone Elitist model. Epiphone doesn't use a solid body (the inside is hollow), uses sub par pickups, and a bolt on neck. You can mod an Epi to sound great though- add some Burstbucker pickups, Grover mini tuners, and you'll have a decent jamming axe.

EDIT: Oh, and here's the required pic of my Black Beauty: '72 LP Black Beauty

That's a gorgeous guitar.
Wanna trade for my SG?

 

[kevinthenerd]

Originally posted by: mrrman

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
I much prefer the Parker Fly Deluxe

http://www.parkerguitars.com/code/models/models_fly_deluxe_intro.asp

That's the only musical instrument I would describe as sexy, except maybe a Yamaha acoustic grand piano.

Never heard of the Parker...what does this model cost??

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=parker+fly+deluxe&btnG=Search+Froogle

The ones for sale there look better than the original link. The green doesn't work. My friend has a very nice purple one, but I'd want a black one myself.

Good pic: http://www.musiciansbuy.com/MMMBCom/images/PARKER_RFDV_MB.jpg

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
What would you rather play?

I've played and worked on guitars for years. My electric is one of the better old Les Paul copies with real Gibson humbucking pickus and bridge and Schaller tuners.

The biggest problem with some of the SG's I've played is, the way the neck is attached to the body, it tends to flex too much which makes it easy to get out of tune in the middle of playing.

I would have to go with the SG, while the Les Paul sounds richer, I just think the SG has a more powerful sound.

Once you're into a Gibson solid body with humbuckers, there are a lot of other factors that influence the sound of the guitar:

• The density of the wood in the body and neck.
  
• The exact vintage of your pickups and their placement. Note that you can turn humbuckers around so the pole pieces are closer or further from the bridge/neck. Removing the metal cover also changes the sound.
  
• The brand and gauge of your strings.
  
• The height of the strings over your pickups and over the fret board.

Once you get past the possible mechanical problems of the SG, it all gets down to taste. My favorite guitar is still my 1970 Martin D-28. But what do I know. I'm just the piano player.

 

[Gibson486]

I have an SG....I like it alot. The Les Paul id a differett beast though. The SG has a heavier and muddier tone.

 

[GeekDrew]

Originally posted by: DainBramaged
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[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
What would you rather play?

I've played and worked on guitars for years. My electric is one of the better old Les Paul copies with real Gibson humbucking pickus and bridge and Schaller tuners.

The biggest problem with some of the SG's I've played is, the way the neck is attached to the body, it tends to flex too much which makes it easy to get out of tune in the middle of playing.

I would have to go with the SG, while the Les Paul sounds richer, I just think the SG has a more powerful sound.

Once you're into a Gibson solid body with humbuckers, there are a lot of other factors that influence the sound of the guitar:

• The density of the wood in the body and neck.
  
• The exact vintage of your pickups and their placement. Note that you can turn humbuckers around so the pole pieces are closer or further from the bridge/neck. Removing the metal cover also changes the sound.
  
• The brand and guage of your strings.
  
• The height of the strings over your pickups and over the fret board.

Once you get past the possible mechanical problems of the SG, it all gets down to taste. My favorite guitar is still my 1970 Martin D-28. But what do I know. I'm just the piano player.

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