Giants manager Bob Melvin to require players to stand for national anthem

[GettyRoad]

San Francisco Giants manager Bob Melvin wants to get going----with his players standing for the national anthem to show that baseball is back as the American pastime.

Giants’ Bob Melvin Will Require Team to Stand on Field for National Anthem

The rule marks a reversal from previous San Francisco Giants manager Gabe Kapler.

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[MrSquished]

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Dumbass. Fuck off Bob.

 

[pete6032]

The team is a private business so the boss calls the shots but it's still a shitty thing to do.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

The team is a private business so the boss calls the shots but it's still a shitty thing to do.

I'm actually ok with this.

If everyone is sitting/kneeling/planking whatever during the national anthem it loses its punch.

Let's make standing mandatory and then have someone violate the rules, much more interesting/higher stakes that way.

Tree of Liberty/Blood of Patriots & Tyrants yadda yadda yadda

 

[manly]

I liked Melvin when he managed the A's.

The team is a private business so the boss calls the shots but it's still a shitty thing to do.

Even by billionaire sports owner standards, the Giants owner is incredibly shitty in his political beliefs. Super ironic considering he owns the team in San Francisco. If I was a Giants fan, I'd be boycotting them.

 

[BoomerD]

IMO, playing the national anthem should be banned from sportsball events...as should the whole "bring the military in and a giant US flag across the field.
I'm a "dyed in the wool" patriot, but forcing someone to stand for the anthem or the Pledge of Allegiance just doesn't sit right with me.

BTW, if Melvin wants the players to honor the country in such a way, and they're presenting is as "America's game," shouldn't American baseball stop harvesting so many players from foreign countries? Shouldn't everyone who plays be required to speak English?

 

[mindless1]

We should just train dogs to attack players who feel like not standing. Of course it is only fair to warn them, have them sign a waiver as part of their contract, etc.

If they don't feel like performing every single part of the ceremony of playing a mere game as a profession, and the fame and getting paid millions to do so isn't enough motivation to not be disruptive, then just GTFO.

I'd rather they got rid of the anthem than let people display disrespect towards society because of their own agenda. They are choosing to entertain society so if there is this mental block, find another way to make a living.

 

[MrSquished]

We should just train dogs to attack players who feel like not standing. Of course it is only fair to warn them, have them sign a waiver as part of their contract, etc.

If they don't feel like performing every single part of the ceremony of playing a mere game as a profession, and the fame and getting paid millions to do so isn't enough motivation to not be disruptive, then just GTFO.

I'd rather they got rid of the anthem than let people display disrespect towards society because of their own agenda. They are choosing to entertain society so if there is this mental block, find another way to make a living.

How about you train the dogs. And then for a surprise party for these super well trained dogs, we dress you up like a San Francisco Giants player sitting on a bench while the anthem plays. It'll be a great costume trust me. It'll be so good that you won't be able to stand up.

Deal?

 

[nakedfrog]

We should just train dogs to attack players who feel like not standing. Of course it is only fair to warn them, have them sign a waiver as part of their contract, etc.

If they don't feel like performing every single part of the ceremony of playing a mere game as a profession, and the fame and getting paid millions to do so isn't enough motivation to not be disruptive, then just GTFO.

I'd rather they got rid of the anthem than let people display disrespect towards society because of their own agenda. They are choosing to entertain society so if there is this mental block, find another way to make a living.

"Stand for the anthem or be attacked by dogs", yep, that seems pretty freedom-loving and "American".

 

[MrSquished]

"Stand for the anthem or be attacked by dogs", yep, that seems pretty freedom-loving and "American".

I know I have gotten in it with this guy before and some others have too. He is like @imported_tajmahal levels of totally terrible, pretty pretty bad. On pretty much any socio political topic he's been involved in.

 

[BoomerD]

We should just train dogs to attack players who feel like not standing. Of course it is only fair to warn them, have them sign a waiver as part of their contract, etc.

If they don't feel like performing every single part of the ceremony of playing a mere game as a profession, and the fame and getting paid millions to do so isn't enough motivation to not be disruptive, then just GTFO.

I'd rather they got rid of the anthem than let people display disrespect towards society because of their own agenda. They are choosing to entertain society so if there is this mental block, find another way to make a living.

That's a bit extreme...to the point of stupidity.
I support the rights of Americans to protest, but FFS, do it on your time...not while you're at work. Do that shit while you're on the clock at most jobs, you'd get shown the door.

 

[nakedfrog]

Also: baseball will never be back as the American pastime.

 

[mindless1]

That's a bit extreme...to the point of stupidity.
I support the rights of Americans to protest, but FFS, do it on your time...not while you're at work. Do that shit while you're on the clock at most jobs, you'd get shown the door.

I have zero sympathy for grown men getting paid millions of dollars to play games as a profession. If they want to be disruptive, after having been warned about the dogs, aren't they making a choice?

It doesn't matter to me whether it is the anthem. Well it does "some" but that's just another layer. If some jackarse decides that he's going to be a rebel and try to bat from 1st base instead of home plate, still ridiculous to me. Bring out the dogs! Nobody is forcing them to be there.

 

[nakedfrog]

It's sooooooo disruptive to not stand for the anthem. Absolutely comparable to batting from 1st base.

 

[BoomerD]

I have zero sympathy for grown men getting paid millions of dollars to play games as a profession. If they want to be disruptive, after having been warned about the dogs, aren't they making a choice?

It doesn't matter to me whether it is the anthem. Well it does "some" but that's just another layer. If some jackarse decides that he's going to be a rebel and try to bat from 1st base instead of home plate, still ridiculous to me. Bring out the dogs! Nobody is forcing them to be there.

Nah…that’s just stupid.

AFAIC, as I’ve said numerous times going back to the Colin Craperdick “kneeling” bullshit, I don’t agree with the leagues playing the national anthem…seems like “ forced patriotism,” but as long as they do, either stand and show some respect, or feel free to leave the field for the game…and forfeit your pay until you are willing to do so.

I served 4 years in the Corps…I will ALWAYS stand…with my hand over my heart since I’m no longer in uniform, for both the National Anthem and the Pledge of Allegiance.

 

[sactoking]

Ah yes, the old "People who refuse to stand while a song is played are unpatriotic according to people who literally want to overthrow the government" discussion.

Surprised this hasn't been relegated to P&N where it belongs.

 

[GettyRoad]

Guys like Bob Melvin, John Lynch, etc. are different than Bay Area residents.

The Bay Area is very leftist, but the businesses are right-leaning.

I personally don't feel that the anthem should be in sports

 

[WelshBloke]

IMO, playing the national anthem should be banned from sportsball events...as should the whole "bring the military in and a giant US flag across the field.
I'm a "dyed in the wool" patriot, but forcing someone to stand for the anthem or the Pledge of Allegiance just doesn't sit right with me.

The anthems and a few flags makes sense if it's a national team (like Wales playing France) but seems a bit weird for regional teams.
Also the military thing is just NK levels of wrong.

BTW, if Melvin wants the players to honor the country in such a way, and they're presenting is as "America's game," shouldn't American baseball stop harvesting so many players from foreign countries? Shouldn't everyone who plays be required to speak English?

Do people have to speak English to work in the US? Are foreigners allowed to work in the US?
I kinda agree that there should be nationality rules about who can play for national teams but regional teams are different.

 

[mindless1]

Ah yes, the old "People who refuse to stand while a song is played are unpatriotic according to people who literally want to overthrow the government" discussion.

Surprised this hasn't been relegated to P&N where it belongs.

I have no problem with the spectators not standing. They are not being paid a pretty penny to entertain us and adhere to the formalities of playing a game of baseball.

 

[mindless1]

Nah…that’s just stupid.

If by stupid you mean, likely to be effective, then we are in agreement.

Their fate would be in their hands.

 

[MrSquished]

Folks, I hope people do understand we are reading the posts of a totally evil person. Not unusual at all, just look at human history. But this is a perfect example of evil. This is not a one off post either. This is part of a consistent values system this poster has promoted. Evil values.

 

[nakedfrog]

I have no problem with the spectators not standing. They are not being paid a pretty penny to entertain us and adhere to the formalities of playing a game of baseball.

So, like, what's the pay cut-off where it should be reasonable to unleash attack dogs on an employee for failure to comply?