Giants going after DeAngelo Hall

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Carbo

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Originally posted by: Sinsear
18-1 odds they get him?
Rumor has it there are a number of teams interested in Hall. So what chance do the Giants have with the last pick in the first round, if you have three or four other teams interested with lower picks? It's OK to sniff around, but I'd hate to see the Giants throw away draft picks on this guy. He's good, but overrated. Champions are built through the draft. Besides, Corey Webster came on in the post season, and there may not be a pressing need for a corner as was thought earlier in the season. Let Philly have him, so the Giants can burn his ass twice a year.

 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: BHeemsoth
Originally posted by: tidehigh
NO WAY he's worth a first rounder. if they give that up, theyll be picking at 62...basically giving up this years draft.

LOL...you're a moron.

Yes, two of the bigger contributors on this year's Giants team came from the early rounds (S. Smith, and A. Ross), but value can be attained in the lower rounds. Just look at their draft from last year:

1 20 20 Aaron Ross - Bio | Video CB Texas

2 19 51 Steve Smith - Bio | Video WR USC

3 18 81 Jay Alford - Bio DT Penn State - Filled in well at long snapper, showed some potential at DT (sack on Brady)

4 17 116 Zak DeOssie - Bio | Video LB Brown - Excellent Special teamer,
a little undersized, but has potential to be a good backup or spot starter.

5 16 153 Kevin Boss TE Western Oregon - Filled in wonderfully after Shock went down in week 15; many consider him the TE of the future.

6 15 189 Adam Koets T Oregon State - Unknown commodity.

7 14 224 Michael Johnson S Arizona - Great speed, excellent hitter - filled in well when G. Wilson and J. Butler went down at mid season.

7 40 250 Ahmad Bradshaw RB Marshall - We all saw what he did starting Dec. 23 in Buffalo.


So, as you can see, the draft is not "over" just because they won't pick until the end of the second round. The Giants can afford to give up their first pick to get someone like D. Hall.

To be fair, the Giants draft last year was one for the ages. It's hardly typical.
 

se7en

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Originally posted by: Abel007

I agree. Good riddance to DHall. He single handedly caused the Falcons to lose at least one game last season. 85 yds in penalties for one person? C'mon!

Since Atl would have gone so far even with that win right? lulz

He covered Steve Smith for Carolina year in year out and has always done decently to contain the beast that is Smith. He isn't a stand alone corner he needs help but he is still a great corner for such a low pick (31). There are very few players of his quality you will find at that point and picking the right one. . . yeah good luck.

After the way Atl treated him he doesn't deserve to stay there he should go to where his talent will be utilized wherever that may be. He is very good friends with Vick so last year you have to take that into account since he was calling to be traded very early in the season. Who would want to work for an organazation that treated its veterans that way?
 

Rockinacoustic

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Most people forget this kid will be just 25 by next season. He's easily a top 10 corner in the NFL. Easy choice- trade the pick.
 

BHeemsoth

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: BHeemsoth
Originally posted by: tidehigh
NO WAY he's worth a first rounder. if they give that up, theyll be picking at 62...basically giving up this years draft.

LOL...you're a moron.

Yes, two of the bigger contributors on this year's Giants team came from the early rounds (S. Smith, and A. Ross), but value can be attained in the lower rounds. Just look at their draft from last year:

1 20 20 Aaron Ross - Bio | Video CB Texas

2 19 51 Steve Smith - Bio | Video WR USC

3 18 81 Jay Alford - Bio DT Penn State - Filled in well at long snapper, showed some potential at DT (sack on Brady)

4 17 116 Zak DeOssie - Bio | Video LB Brown - Excellent Special teamer,
a little undersized, but has potential to be a good backup or spot starter.

5 16 153 Kevin Boss TE Western Oregon - Filled in wonderfully after Shock went down in week 15; many consider him the TE of the future.

6 15 189 Adam Koets T Oregon State - Unknown commodity.

7 14 224 Michael Johnson S Arizona - Great speed, excellent hitter - filled in well when G. Wilson and J. Butler went down at mid season.

7 40 250 Ahmad Bradshaw RB Marshall - We all saw what he did starting Dec. 23 in Buffalo.


So, as you can see, the draft is not "over" just because they won't pick until the end of the second round. The Giants can afford to give up their first pick to get someone like D. Hall.

To be fair, the Giants draft last year was one for the ages. It's hardly typical.

Oh, I know, but to say that no talent ever came out of the second day of the draft is silly.

Just look at Romo, Brady, G. Wilson, and M. Colston.
 
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Hell, part of the reason the Giants won the Super Bowl is because all of their "me" guys were hurt, retired, or singled out. Shockey was injured and didn't play the last half of the season, Barber retired, and Burress didn't have to try so hard to make himself stand out amongst these other assholes who like stats more than the team game they play, therefore he played to his ability.
 

ja1484

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There's only one question that's going to determine what the Giants do next season, and that's if Eli Manning continues to be the Eli Manning he was in the 08 playoffs.

The Giants were headed towards another mediocre season and an easy defeat as a wild-card NFC team until Eli decided to explode. If he maintains that level of play and the Giants don't have any serious injuries, they could repeat as SuperBowl champs. If they get the old Eli back, I don't see them doing much.

Personally, I don't believe it yet. Weird shit happens in the playoffs, and rarely translates to regular season. Around October this year I'll be able to decide if that other Manning has turned or a corner or just hit a hot streak at the right time.