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Originally posted by: myjaja
Originally posted by: SMOGZINN
It is just a reflection from the flash. Notice the two some what vertical lines, one between the "hand" and "face" and the other on the other side of the screen near the left edge. Those are reflections of the xmas tree, and the "hand" and "Face" are also reflections off of something shiny on the tree.
Now the real question is, what is up with the stain on the carpet you circled?

What stain? I think those are orbs.

You need to quit watching TAPS. Calm down killer; there's nothing to be freaked out about.
 
Originally posted by: myjaja
Originally posted by: Eghck
Originally posted by: myjaja
Originally posted by: shimsham
i see dust reflecting in the flash, and a hand on the tv.

no ghost.

But that hand wasn't their on the other pics.

well television is known to display multiple images but anyway, what other pics?

Well, we took about 50 pictures. But those pictures came out normal. It's just this picture that came out with a hand and the other stuff.

post some
 
Originally posted by: Eghck
Originally posted by: myjaja
Originally posted by: Eghck
Originally posted by: myjaja
Originally posted by: shimsham
i see dust reflecting in the flash, and a hand on the tv.

no ghost.

But that hand wasn't their on the other pics.

well television is known to display multiple images but anyway, what other pics?

Well, we took about 50 pictures. But those pictures came out normal. It's just this picture that came out with a hand and the other stuff.

post some

Ok, I'll post some tomorrow.
 
Originally posted by: myjaja
Originally posted by: Eghck
Originally posted by: myjaja
Originally posted by: shimsham
i see dust reflecting in the flash, and a hand on the tv.

no ghost.

But that hand wasn't their on the other pics.

well television is known to display multiple images but anyway, what other pics?

Well, we took about 50 pictures. But those pictures came out normal. It's just this picture that came out with a hand and the other stuff.


So why wasn't the ghost in any of those photos?
Let?s let our friend Occam help us out here.
What do you think is more likely, that in that one of 50 photos you managed to capture a ghost that happens to be stuck inside your TV, or that a ornament on the Christmas tree moved a tiny bit and caused a reflection? Or perhaps the camera shutter stayed open just a tiny fraction of a second longer, or opened a tiny fraction of a second sooner? Or maybe (if you are using film) the negative had a minor flaw, or (if digital) some of the data on was corrupted when the image was transferred to storage?
If you want to believe that it is a supernatural event that no one else has ever been able to prove then nothing I can say that will dissuade you, but do not believe that a supernatural event is the only explanation, or even the most likely.

EDIT: Even if it was a ghost , I belive that is a Core Zero shot and the ghost is now captured. That "stain" on your carpet is probably a spirit orb, and you can now upgrade your camera.
 
everyone always wants to debunk images of ghosts because they do not want their beliefs of ghosts not existing to be proven false.
given the right circumstances, I do believe that could be a ghost and those could be orbs. But, there are too many unknowns. I would have had to taken the pic to truely know if they are ghosts or not. Is there anything that could cause those reflections? Many images have had ghosts displayed in the tv. It might have something logical along with it, such as, ghosts can only be seen as orbs, unless their display themselves on a screen? Perhaps? Who knows.
But yea, was there dust on the lens, was there something to reflect a hand shape?

I believe that is a true ghost displaying itself on the tv, but as for the orbs, those are up for debate. It is quite possible. Orbs normally go hand in hand with anything out of the ordinary when it comes to photographs. If they werent present in the other pictures, its quite possible they are orbs. Reason? Dust doesn't just settle on the lens like that inbetween pictures. It takes awhile. And dust is too small to cause image interruptions like that. It would have be water, or spit, like something spit when they talked and it hit the lens. But that doesn't sound likely.

I too am looking forward to seeing the other pictures. I would like to compare.
 
Originally posted by: destrekor
everyone always wants to debunk images of ghosts because they do not want their beliefs of ghosts not existing to be proven false.
People like to debunt images of ghosts because a little thing called Occam's Razor tells us that when we see strange images in a picture we should first think about problems with our equipment.

given the right circumstances, I do believe that could be a ghost and those could be orbs. But, there are too many unknowns. I would have had to taken the pic to truely know if they are ghosts or not. Is there anything that could cause those reflections?
Like perhaps a Christmas tree with all types of lights and shiny things on it?



Many images have had ghosts displayed in the tv.
There has never been a verifiable image of a ghost. I agree that it is a hard thing to verify, but if you are going to come to a extraordinaire conclusion, you need extraordinary evidence. That evidence has never been presented even though parapsychology has been researched, sometimes with very large funding, for more then a hundred years now.


I too am looking forward to seeing the other pictures. I would like to compare.
Although I too think it will be interesting to see the other photos, I don't think we can learn much from them. What we need to know is more about the camera that took the picture, the time interval between pictures, any changes made to the camera or scene between photographs. Even all that would only be the start of an investigation.


 
no matter how long the image, a hand like that will not show up on the tv like that. and its doubtful a hand-shaped ornament is on that tree.

and photos will not be proven. I think the existence of ghosts has been 'proven' to an extent. Its how well you wanna believe. I was watching a live show on travel channel at a haunted place. Theres a difference between staged and live and how it was happening. It was slightly creepy.
And I've experienced a ghost in my house I do believe. scared the ****** out of me.

its just, if you care not to believe, then everything you see as evidence will be seen as faked and you will say its not proven.
if you are a believer, you will think everything you see that resembles a ghost is a ghost
if you are a skeptical believer like I am, you won't go out of your way to disprove something, but if its obvious its not a ghost then you wont believe it was. but if it cannot be explained, you will rest on the assumption that it was indeed a ghost.

if that 'hand' and the orbs can't be disproven, then I will truely believe it was a ghost.And unless there is a hand-shaped ornament, it likely wont be disproven. Or if it was a real image on the tv. Other than that, I can think of no circumstance that a hand would reflect like that.
 
Originally posted by: Aquila76
Wow. I think you're going to have to baptize the TV in Holy Water to exorcise the demons. Fill your bathtub with water, then hold the TV under (sometimes they float a little). Make sure you have TBN or something playing on the TV, or else it won't work.


Yes, full immersion baptism is the only way. You should also block all the pron channels first to weaken it , then TBN or even the 700 club will help drive the ghost out.
 
dude.. in the new pictures, 1 and 2 have very similar refelctions like it does in the ghost picture, they just don't resemble human shapes.. it's obviously just reflections
 
Originally posted by: myjaja
Originally posted by: SMOGZINN
It is just a reflection from the flash. Notice the two some what vertical lines, one between the "hand" and "face" and the other on the other side of the screen near the left edge. Those are reflections of the xmas tree, and the "hand" and "Face" are also reflections off of something shiny on the tree.
Now the real question is, what is up with the stain on the carpet you circled?

What stain? I think those are orbs.


No, that's definitely a stain, I have some ideas as to what kind of stain, but I don't think the mods would appreciate it if I posted them.
 
If every picture I have with "orbs" in it is a ghost, then they must be all around us all the time. It's just light reflecting off of pieces of dust, get over it.

The "hand" looks like nothing more than some motion in whatever was being displayed on the tv. Your evidence sucks.
 
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