GF4 MX440SE 64mb PCI Video Card Just 29.99 after rebates... at Compusa

[NICKel]

79.99-20.00 IR and 30.00 MAIL in.....

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Pretty good?

 

[teklord]

Look ok.. comments? How's the manufacturer?

Will this work on an Asus A7N8X deluxe board? I remember something about AGP 8X only. Thanks

 

[amdskip]

Never heard of the manufacturer but its probably just a reference board anyways.

It'll be a heck of a lot better than a tnt2 though but I'd really advise saving some more and getting a geforce 4 ti4200 at least.

 

[BG4533]

Originally posted by: teklord
Look ok.. comments? How's the manufacturer?

Will this work on an Asus A7N8X deluxe board? I remember something about AGP 8X only. Thanks

The board supports 8X, but does not require it. This card will work fine, but I think there may be better deals around.

 

[JDJr]

This is a PCI card not an AGP.
BTW: I got one last time around and I'm still waiting for the rebate (6 months or so).

JDJr

 

[Radracer]

Mad Dog rebates are notoriously bad. You will need to register the product's serial number on their website to get the rebate, and it WILL be 6 months before you get it.

 

[tbogstad]

i did 3 mad dog 16X dvd rebATES AND IT DID take like 3 months, but i got all my money.

 

[Nyses]

not a very good deal IMHO especially for the SE version .. spend 5 bucks more and get a non se version

 

[Nyses]

not a very good deal IMHO especially for the SE version .. spend 5 bucks more and get a non se version

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Nyses
not a very good deal IMHO especially for the SE version .. spend 5 bucks more and get a non se version

Any idea what the difference is?

 

[Nyses]

i was gonna buy one before i realized that they were both not very good gaming cards....the SE only comes in a 4x version and i thnk the core/mem speeds are a bit slower....actually i think anadtech has a review and benchmarks both ofd them together...dont quote me on that though

make note that when a vid card says SE its usually worse than the non SE also with ATI cards

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Nyses

make note that when a vid card says SE its usually worse than the non SE also with ATI cards

I knew that, about ATI cards at least. Just unsure what that "SE" designation meant, in reference to NV cards. Usually they use "MX" to mean low-end. So this is a low-end, low-end, card then, I suppose?

 

[XeonTux]

being PCI it is going to be pretty low end no matter what eh?

 

[Nyses]

if you dont plan on any gaming whatsoever then i would buy it cause that is cheap ...

 

[Cleaner]

DON'T BUY AN MX CARD TO DO ANY GAMING WITH! Unless you're going to be playing the original Doom in 320x200 don't buy this card. The MX's have half the pipelines of their big brothers so they can't mantain the framerate. You'll get serious chopping and shuttering when you try to use it for anything. I'm not just talking out of my a$$ here I have one and its horrible.

 

[pxc]

Originally posted by: Cleaner
DON'T BUY AN MX CARD TO DO ANY GAMING WITH! Unless you're going to be playing the original Doom in 320x200 don't buy this card. The MX's have half the pipelines of their big brothers so they can't mantain the framerate. You'll get serious chopping and shuttering when you try to use it for anything. I'm not just talking out of my a$$ here I have one and its horrible.

You didn't specify which MX you have. The GF2 MX is much slower than the GF4 MX. The GF4 MX supports fast-Z clear, Z-Compression and has a 2 way crossbar memory interface, plus much faster core and memory speeds.

But yeah, don't buy the GF4 MX to play any new games, it's too slow. It's fine for older games like Quake3 and Unreal Tournament.

There are different versions of the GF4 MX that aren't too bad, like the GF4 MX440 (non-SE version). It has a faster core speed (275MHz) and faster memory (6.4GB/s bandwidth or 8GB/s with the AGP8x version). Then on the other end of the scale is the PNY GF4 MX440-SE which only has a 64-bit DDR memory interface (or 128-bit SDR interface on another GF4 MX440-SE version), which is much slower than the Mad Dog GF4 MX440-SE.

 

[mindless1]

"...Unless you're going to be playing the original Doom in 320x200"

An accurate assessment would've been a lot more helpful. Not everyone wants or needs blazing performance from a PCI video card. However, if you do need the best PCI, that's still a Radeon 9100?

Regardless, CUSA's website shows "SOLD OUT".

 

[Cleaner]

Hey Doom in 320 x 200 was the BOMB back in 1993. Nowdays its not so hot! LOL! I have a GF4mx420 with 64mb of ram. I put it in one of my other backup gaming stations, I have 7 computes, and it chokes. The machine is a p3 1ghz with 384mb ram and this video card. I can't even play CS or DOD on it without stuttering and frameloss. So I replaced it with an ATI 7500 and it runs great. I get around 40-50 fps in it. The MX card just sux. Also I didn't mean to step on anyone's toes just wanted to give my opinion of the card for your perusal.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: pxc

You didn't specify which MX you have. The GF2 MX is much slower than the GF4 MX. The GF4 MX supports fast-Z clear, Z-Compression and has a 2 way crossbar memory interface, plus much faster core and memory speeds.

But yeah, don't buy the GF4 MX to play any new games, it's too slow. It's fine for older games like Quake3 and Unreal Tournament.

There are different versions of the GF4 MX that aren't too bad, like the GF4 MX440 (non-SE version). It has a faster core speed (275MHz) and faster memory (6.4GB/s bandwidth or 8GB/s with the AGP8x version). Then on the other end of the scale is the PNY GF4 MX440-SE which only has a 64-bit DDR memory interface (or 128-bit SDR interface on another GF4 MX440-SE version), which is much slower than the Mad Dog GF4 MX440-SE.

Well, I'd have to look up the clock/RAM speeds to be sure, but it sounds like the 64-bit DDR memory of the interface, isn't really any faster than the 128-bit SDRAM memory interface from the original GF2 MX (and later GF2 MX400) cards.

I have an original GF2 MX 4x AGP card in my machine right now as a secondary, but that's more than enough for me, I don't play anything more modern than the original UT. It's actually better than the GF2 Ti that I had in there before, because it supports more modern video-acceleration features. I do a bit of vidcap work on this PC, and it seems to support multiple hardware overlays. I don't have a dual-head model, that would be even better. I only paid $20 for it though. I can't see paying an arm and a leg for a video card, although I'd jump on a new-ish Radeon for ~$50, or a Radeon AIW card for ~$100. Paying ~$400 for a 3D card is insane, I'd rather buy a PS2, GC, and a pile of games for the same money.

 

[pxc]

The Mad Dog GF4 MX440SE has a 128-bit DDR memory interface. I was running one of those in my HTPC for a while (needed a cheap PCI card... it was $29.99AR back in January, too). Worked fine for that function. The PNY 440SE comes in 64-bit DDR or 128-bit SDR versions. I bought one of each of those, too (TD and Fry's... can't get enough $29.99 & $19.99 video cards ).

 

[yodayoda]

this is a very good deal if you have a dell with PCI slots only for a SSF mobo like an shuttle SS40 or SV24 or Via Epia board with PCI slots only. also, some people like to run an AGP video card with a PCI only so they can go dual monitor. so PCI video is not dead yet! AGP is counting its days though until PCI Express =)

 

[pxc]

PCI express currently only supports 2.5Gbps (gigabits per second) per channel. That's double what PCI provides, but still very far behing AGP8x (2 gigabytes/s). The total bandwidth for "multi-lane" PCI express is much higher than PCI or AGP provides, so it will be interesting to see how many lanes a graphic card uses. It sounds like 4 from the rumors I read (1GB/s... some data is overhead in PCI-X).

 

[geoffkin]

So what's the best deal on a PCI card right now, that CAN be used for some of the newer games?

 

[mindless1]

When it comes to PCI cards, you get 2-3 year old performance, that's just the way it is.


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[unclebud]

i swapped a 7000 agp out for a pci to see if there was a difference
there wasn't
clean windows install beforehand, kept the same drivers