This isn't about money and affording a GF4, if it was, then I'd get something like that. It was about a trade, my Radeon 8500LE for someone else's GeForce 3. Just now I have zero cash to sink into a card anyway, but as I said in my last post, I decided to keep the 8500 because the quality of the TV-Out kicks the crap out of any Nvidia card I have seen, and since I watch DVDs through the TV-Out of my vidcard, it makes a big difference. I will still have to suffer with some pauses in certain games I guess, but for the quality of the TV-Out I suppose it's worth it.