Getting tired of Skyrim already. Characters are wooden, quest fatigue.

fuzzybabybunny

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I've never actually finished a single Bethesda game. Morrowind, the Fallouts, Oblivion, and now possibly this. The reason is simple.

The sheer amount of stuff and landmass is amazing, but now I've got like over 20 unfinished quests and it feels like a complete grind to go through them. I also can't identify with the characters.... they still feel way too much like robots. They're missing that "filled with life" thing that I was able to get from characters like Alyx in HL or even Bioware games like Mass Effect. I feel no emotion when I help them. Even my companion (housecarl, Lydia or something like that) has no personality.

So basically I have yet again a Bethesda game where I am overloaded with quests, quests that I don't feel a desire to complete because I'm just doing it for a bunch of robots. I usually also like to do 2 playthroughs of RPG games, one evil and one good. Did it with games like KOTOR for example. Can't bring myself to do it with this game. Anyone else feel this? I almost want to just focus on the main quest then shelve the game afterwards.
 

lavaheadache

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You got a filled with life feeling from Alyx?

HL was just an on rails shooter, albeit a good one but I wouldn't say the characters were the highlight.
 

BlueWeasel

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I'm not to that point yet, but see your points.

There needs to be a way to drop/end quests. My misc. quest list just keeps getting larger and I don't even care about most of those.
 

fuzzybabybunny

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You got a filled with life feeling from Alyx?

HL was just an on rails shooter, albeit a good one but I wouldn't say the characters were the highlight.

Absolutely. Everything to the character animations to the face expressions to the excellent voice acting to their backstory to the emotional connection the character made with me. Also the future prospect of some kind of growing relationship, not just "I'm your housecarl, I'm sworn to bear your burdens *sigh*"
 

NoSoup4You

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Skyrim's NPC's are instantly forgetable, I agree on that. But I knew that going in, TES games have such a huge world, it's pretty much a given considering the circumstances.

Needless to say, NPC's aren't what makes TES games great.
 

shortylickens

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As has been said a hundred times before on this forum:
You can beat the main quest in any of Bethesda's games in relatively shorty order by just sticking with it. And thats almost always the most interesting one anyway. If you are getting bored I think it has more to do with you than the game itself. Not insulting your intelligence, we already know you are a smart guy, but I dont think you have the patience for these games.
Heck, in Fallout 3 you can beeline straight for your dad as soon as you pop out of the Vault, and you dont even need any decent stats or skills to free him cuz it takes place in a controlled virtual environment where your character cant die or lose.
New Vegas can be sped up by ignoring Goodsprings and going straight to the strip, killing Benny, activating Yes Man, and choosing to ignore all the factions.
I am sure Skyrim is similar and I havent even played it.
 

gorcorps

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It's a game that gives you the option of dumping hundreds of hours in when that's not what you want. Focus on the main quest line and it becomes much more manageable, and that's where the acting focus was.
 

HeXen

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The devs say it can be beaten in 2.5 hours i think it was and proved it. My main fun with TES games is the exploration. Some very beautiful shots can be made with TM and Toggle Clip command.. I use many of them as my wallpaper background.

unfortunately for me, i havnt been able to play it last few days due to some odd issue
admit it though guys, if it was only 1 quest, linear or anything like that, you all would raise hell.
 

zerocool84

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Pretty much all Bethesda games have horrible NPC's with bad voice acting that you don't care about. Really kills the whole "world" experience and one of my main gripes with their games. Pretty much only the main characters have any decent voice acting. Bad voice acting in a game that relies on it really kills the experience.
 

Lonyo

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Pretty much all Bethesda games have horrible NPC's with bad voice acting that you don't care about. Really kills the whole "world" experience and one of my main gripes with their games. Pretty much only the main characters have any decent voice acting. Bad voice acting in a game that relies on it really kills the experience.

Apparently everyone is related too, even when they are of different species, because they all have the same voice.
 

HeXen

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i hate how you can steal or kill someone without any witnesses and come back later and everyone in town wants your blood.
 

BlueWeasel

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And all vendors went to the same sales seminar. "Some call this trash, I call them treasures."

Better than the Smith at the Skyforge. I'm tired of him saying "Gods be praised" every time I want to buy an ingot from him. ;)
 

Lonyo

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i hate how you can steal or kill someone without any witnesses and come back later and everyone in town wants your blood.

You were witnessed.
You can actually kill witnesses so that doesn't happen, at least sometimes. You get a message saying "All witnesses have been killed" or something.
 

HeXen

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You were witnessed.
You can actually kill witnesses so that doesn't happen, at least sometimes. You get a message saying "All witnesses have been killed" or something.

uh no. i can sneak into a house with no one there, steal and leave no problem. comming back later i'm attacked.
same with killing. i've made sure many times that no one saw a thing.
Also, i can kill someone, run to the next town on horseback and they know about it? wtf

its a bugged system either way. one only mods will likely ever fix.
 

Wardawg1001

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uh no. i can sneak into a house with no one there, steal and leave no problem. comming back later i'm attacked.
same with killing. i've made sure many times that no one saw a thing.
Also, i can kill someone, run to the next town on horseback and they know about it? wtf

its a bugged system either way. one only mods will likely ever fix.

I havent encountered either of those things. Its your game thats bugged, not the system. I regularly steal everything in sight, even with people in the room and just have their backs turned to me. Remember you have to be sneaking (crouched). I've also killed people (though not in town, wandering guards and outpost guards) and not had anyone know about it. Once I've killed all of them I get a message saying that all the witnesses have been removed and the bounty drops to zero. Most towns have their own guards and their own bounties as well (even the smaller ones), so I'm not sure how you are encountering guards that want to arrest you for killing someone in a different town.
 

gothamhunter

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I got burned out for a little bit too. Leave the game for a week or so, then come back to it. You'll get sucked right back in.
 

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i did the dark brotherhood line, main quest line, and winterhold mage quests

anything else interesting left to do?
 

Wardawg1001

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i did the dark brotherhood line, main quest line, and winterhold mage quests

anything else interesting left to do?

Thieves guild quest line, companions quest line (they are like the fighters guild of Skyrim), stormcloack or imperials quest line, or any of the dozens of quest lines that you can open up just by talking to Jarls or random people in towns.
 

pontifex

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The devs say it can be beaten in 2.5 hours i think it was and proved it. My main fun with TES games is the exploration. Some very beautiful shots can be made with TM and Toggle Clip command.. I use many of them as my wallpaper background.

unfortunately for me, i havnt been able to play it last few days due to some odd issue
admit it though guys, if it was only 1 quest, linear or anything like that, you all would raise hell.

So why aren't people bitching about this? Yeah, there's all the side content but the core of the game is so short? People bitch about other games for less than this.
 

Bateluer

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People are just realizing that Bethesda's characters are wooden and instantly forgettable? They've always been that way.

I finished Morrowind only because I had nothing else to do with my time. I invested several hours in Oblivion before I had to do a hdd reformat for some reason, didn't have the motivation to even reinstall it.
 

Wardawg1001

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So why aren't people bitching about this? Yeah, there's all the side content but the core of the game is so short? People bitch about other games for less than this.

Because its not really the core of the game. Its the "main" quest line that progresses the story, but when compared to everything else its just a slightly longer and more elaborate quest line than many of the others in the game (and some of the side quest lines are actually longer and more elaborate). Aside from that, you would really have to know what the main quest line is and intentionally ignore everything else you encounter to actually complete it that quickly.
 

gorcorps

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So why aren't people bitching about this? Yeah, there's all the side content but the core of the game is so short? People bitch about other games for less than this.

People bitch when 2.5 hours is all the story they get... like in multiplayer focused games that have a campaign thrown in there for laughs. You still have tons of content worth playing through in Skyrim as it's a single player only game. Bethesda is very good at letting you go at your own pace, which is why I can't fault them much for their attempts at scaling enemies to your level. Typical RPGs force you to have a certain amount of game time to get through certain places, but Bethesda tries to give you an honest shot at besting an area you run into (within reason) regardless of your level. Because of that you can get as much of the game as you have time for.

Long story short... when you have the CHOICE of 2.5 hours to 100s of hours worth of game, people don't mind as much. It's when you get through everything a game has to offer in 5 hours that really bothers some people.