Getting laid off work

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: Maxspeed996

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: Maxspeed996
Well.....WTF. Been here 5 years , and it ends like that.....wouldn't you think I'd be able to get unemployment? My wifes upset of course....but since I've been good with my finances , I have no real outstanding debt...and my total bills per month are about $500...and I've got a few thousand stashed back.
Guess I'm just venting here.....this is crap!!!

dude...serious +++ points for staying on top of things, congrats on not screwing yourself when an emergency hits...I can't tell you how many times I've seen the opposite happen. good job for being prepared!

Thanks man , if it weren't for that , I'd be totally freaking out. I really like my job. But to be honest , the only thing I'm worried about is being able to make sure that my wife is taken care of ya know. I have to keep health insurance for her sake with her going through the medical / health issues. I don't know what I would do if we had that to take care of too.
Oh , and Turnin , thank you for bringing that to my attention , I didn't even think about what would happen if I were to let health coverage lapse , and then try to get coverage for a pre existing condition.
I need a :beer:

Yeah, based on what you've said in this thread, just get out of that job as soon as you can get your insurance stuff taken care of. It doesn't sound like the greatest place to work. Good luck with everything, I hope it works out for you!

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: Maxspeed996
I'm a customer service manager for a large transportation company. And was recently moved to a new department...a month ago to be exact. My old spot was filled with a new person already.
My wife over the past few months has had some serious health issues , either Lymphoma or Chrons disease...we found out it's not the Lymphoma , but the Chrons is still a very good possibility. My wife seems to think that my company is letting me go because of the cost of my medical expenses that I've incurred over a relatively short period of time. I would like to think that this company wouldn't do such a thing. But to be honest. The owner of my company is a total A-hole , and I wouldn't coun't something like that out with him.
I've been doing IT work on the side for the past 4-5 years...and I think that I'm going to take the opportunity to try to go after a postion in that field. For info , I'm 30 years old , my wife is 28 , she is self employed , and I am only worried about the insurance at this point. Unemployment isn't much around here either...I'd pull about $385 a week. Which honestly isn't anything fabulous at all....but like I said I've got $500 a month in bills that are my responsibility...this will more than cover my share..plus I've got my savings.
I've been wanting to get my A+ & Net+ certs.....I'm thinking now would be the time to get it done , and do it quickly. Anyone done this who is familiar with the kind of timeframe that is usually involved with completing this? Or any other pointers.

I think that happens more than people would like to admit. I know it's happened to me GF a couple times since we've been together (she has an autoimmune disease). Bad part is that she can't just shop for her own health insurance because no carriers will pick her up, so she HAS to get on a group policy with a job.

Be damn sure to pay your COBRA whilst in-between health insurances. Otherwise you'll be absolutely screwed when your wife gets shuffled into the pre-existing condition category.

 

[Marinski]

I heard Union Pacific was hiring if you want to relocate. www.up.com

 

[Metron]

Originally posted by: Maxspeed996
Does that sound shady to anyone?

Yes, it does.

*edit* PS... don't resign. Resignation = No unemployment benefits, as lokiju pointed out above.

 

[altonb1]

Originally posted by: LeadMagnet
you get used to getting the axe after 4 or 5 times. Now I can smell it coming a mile away.

Before getting laid off do the following;
1: Start bring personal belongings home
2: steal what you can
3: get letters of recomendations
4: get your resume in order and start getting it out there
4a. Steal more stuff
5: get home email address and phone numbers of key coworkers
6: get your finances in order
6a. Find even more stuff to steal
7: start interviewing
8: Recruiters can be helpful in the professional space
9. Torch the business

Then when it happens
1: if given a choice of lump sum payout or monthly payments take the lump sum
2: Immediatly file for unemployment
3: have fun & workout often

FIXED!

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: lokiju

Originally posted by: Maxspeed996

Originally posted by: Metron

Originally posted by: Maxspeed996
no I'm talking health insurance.

I don't think anybody has mentioned it yet, but you can continue your existing medical/health coverage though a program called COBRA. It's much more expensive, since you're paying the entire cost of the medical coverage (rather than your employer picking up a portion).

Your existing policy would continue as it does today, you'd just be paying for 100% of it.

This may be worth looking into. However after sitting and thinking about things that were said to me yesterday. I think something shady is going on with my boss.
I have my boss , and then there is the General Manager of our operation. My boss gave me this timeframe. I only spoke to ONE person at work about what happened as she is the only person I really trust to keep it to herself , I didn't want this going around the office ya know. Well , she has a pretty good relationship with our general manager , and he came into her office last night and asked her to quote " so what did he think about what his boss told him?" Since I asked her to not say anything , so she played like she didn't know anything. And he told her ..... "He told him that he has 3 weeks to get this accomplished or he's out." he also said that my boss had given me a warning 10 days ago because I had taken 4 days off of work in the last month. (When I moved to this department a month ago , I told him that I would need time off because my wife was in and out of the hospital) And the warning said that with the time off that I've had I would almost have to be considered for part time status , which does not include the company health plan. And said that any more time off of work could leave me open to disciplinary action up to , and including termination.
Now yesterday he tells me that if I need any time off work for interviews to take it , and he would ok it...(verbal commitment I might add , no record of it). And he tells me that he would like me to tender my resignation rather than have to fire me.
My general manager supposedly thinks that there was some other reason for my warning 10 days ago. And my boss is supposed to furnish a copy of this warning to him today.
I'm thinking , I'm the highest paid member of my group. Boss can't just get me out now with no reason....he's expecting me to take time off of work for "interviews" like we verbally agreed , and then he's got all he needs to let me go , and not give me unemployment. Does that sound shady to anyone?

Sounds shady to me, if they don't lay you off then you can't collect unemployment. So doing your own letter of resignation will only help him and hurt you.

From what you just said there though, it sounds like if you get this project done on time then the General manager is expecting you to still be around where your direct boss is making it out like you've gotta go no matter what.

Seems conflicting.

But either way, sounds like a they're a bunch of a-holes for going about these things behind your back and to use you taking time off to tend to your sick wife that was in the hospital is really low IMO.

You'll be better off at another company that will treat you better IMO.

I would work hard to get past this, definetly don't tender your resignation. Look for other jobs but don't take off for interviews. Start to document things, keep copies of emails etc, try to do communication through email.

 

[Maxspeed996]

as an update , I'm responsible for bringing the overall sales of my department up by offering less and less money to other companies who have been doing the work for a set amount for a long time...and I'm supposed to start getting them to do it for less and less money.
For anyone in the transportation buisness. You would call me a freight broker. And I have groups of carriers that can haul freight for my companies customers.
And my rates aren't that great to start with , it's going to be a real battle to continue to cut what I'm paying these guys , and still see continued growth in overall loads sold. I'm going to keep my options open I think...this is a fight that I might not be able to win I'm afraid.

 

[EKKC]

if you get no severance and you don't care for their reference, don't show up anymore from now on.

 

[cyclistca]

As much as I not crazy about lawyers I think you need to speak to one.

I was laid off three weeks ago. I was not happy at all with my severance package. I contacted an employment lawyer. I'm now negotiating a better package with my former employer.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Talk to an employment attorney ASAP, before you are terminated. Sounds like you may have a good case for a lawsuit. I would normally be the last one to suggest legal action, but I had a very similar situation about 10yrs ago and I ended up just taking all the crap that they dished out and ended up just leaving and I have regretted it ever since. It set me back in my career and made for several tough years, I should have taken them to the cleaners

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Talk to a lawyer.

 

[hellokeith]

Don't go without working for more than 4 weeks. If 4 weeks passes w/ no job offers, start looking at restaurants pizza delivery fast food.. something that brings in $ while allowing you daytime hours to continue real job searching & interviews.

 

[oogabooga]

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: LeadMagnet

Originally posted by: Maxspeed996

Originally posted by: LeadMagnet
you get used to getting the axe after 4 or 5 times. Now I can smell it coming a mile away.

Before getting laid off do the following;
1: Start bring personal belongings home
2: steal what you can
3: get letters of recomendations
4: get your resume in order and start getting it out there
5: get home email address and phone numbers of key coworkers
6: get your finances in order
7: start interviewing
8: Recruiters can be helpful in the professional space

Then when it happens
1: if given a choice of lump sum payout or monthly payments take the lump sum
2: Immediatly file for unemployment
3: have fun & workout often

I think my supply of post-it notes , and reams of paper and highlighters , paperclips , staples , tape , folders and pens is stocked up plenty....this probably won't be needed.

Then you are thinking too small. Consider desks, chairs, doors, carpeting, plumbing fixtures, forklifts .......

LMFAO

<pictures self driving off in company forklift>

blah, thinking too small again

<pictures self driving off in company forklift holding palete of laptops, computers, lcd monitors, boss's daughter, and company bank account checks>

 

[Maxspeed996]

Originally posted by: oogabooga

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: LeadMagnet

Originally posted by: Maxspeed996

Originally posted by: LeadMagnet
you get used to getting the axe after 4 or 5 times. Now I can smell it coming a mile away.

Before getting laid off do the following;
1: Start bring personal belongings home
2: steal what you can
3: get letters of recomendations
4: get your resume in order and start getting it out there
5: get home email address and phone numbers of key coworkers
6: get your finances in order
7: start interviewing
8: Recruiters can be helpful in the professional space

Then when it happens
1: if given a choice of lump sum payout or monthly payments take the lump sum
2: Immediatly file for unemployment
3: have fun & workout often

I think my supply of post-it notes , and reams of paper and highlighters , paperclips , staples , tape , folders and pens is stocked up plenty....this probably won't be needed.

Then you are thinking too small. Consider desks, chairs, doors, carpeting, plumbing fixtures, forklifts .......

LMFAO

<pictures self driving off in company forklift>

blah, thinking too small again

<pictures self driving off in company forklift holding palete of laptops, computers, lcd monitors, boss's daughter, and company bank account checks>

General Managers daughter is a HOT little freak.....just turned 19......last year she gave me a picture of her in her bikini while in Florida......dad doesn't know about that one.
And there aren't any forklifts here....so I'd have to go over to the other side of town and see if any of my keys will get me into the warehouse. LOL!

 

[Doctorweir]

She gave it to you? Ok, you're settled...

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: Maxspeed996
Well.....WTF. Been here 5 years , and it ends like that.....wouldn't you think I'd be able to get unemployment? My wifes upset of course....but since I've been good with my finances , I have no real outstanding debt...and my total bills per month are about $500...and I've got a few thousand stashed back.
Guess I'm just venting here.....this is crap!!!

total bills per month is $500?! WTF?!

rent/food/gas for car/entertainement/misc/etc is only $500/month?!?!?!

if so, then HOW?!

 

[MaxDepth]

DO NOT RESIGN!

Also - does this company have remediation / HR consultants? You need to speak to them. Nothing threatning like "I'll sue" because that does no one any good. More of, how can we fix this issue? Instead of being fired, maybe both side can rake a look at what concerns the company has about you? Not enough time at the job? Can this be ifxed? Can there be another solution?


Basically, this person wants you gone because they feel you are not living up to their expectations (from what I have read). Sitting down and talking about with an HR person who knows employment policy might be the answer to resolving this issue without you leaving.

And basically you either work together better, they let you go and you pick up unemployment (which they pay into), or you still work and wait out either him going away or you going on to something else.

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: Maxspeed996

Originally posted by: LeadMagnet
you get used to getting the axe after 4 or 5 times. Now I can smell it coming a mile away.

Before getting laid off do the following;
1: Start bring personal belongings home
2: steal what you can
3: get letters of recomendations
4: get your resume in order and start getting it out there
5: get home email address and phone numbers of key coworkers
6: get your finances in order
7: start interviewing
8: Recruiters can be helpful in the professional space

Then when it happens
1: if given a choice of lump sum payout or monthly payments take the lump sum
2: Immediatly file for unemployment
3: have fun & workout often

I think my supply of post-it notes , and reams of paper and highlighters , paperclips , staples , tape , folders and pens is stocked up plenty....this probably won't be needed.

laptopS, lcd monitorS

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: jlcampbell
Oh and if you really do think you are getting laid off because of medical issues, get a lawyer before taking any severance, cause it does happen and you would be surprised what lawyers can dig up in the end resulting in a bigger settlement then the measly severance they were going to give you.

definetly illegal, tough part would be proving it.

hm.. he;s in a private company. is the company violated any of the "protected" areas (race/sex/age) by firing him because he uses too much insurance.

NO

 

[Maxspeed996]

Originally posted by: JEDI

Originally posted by: Maxspeed996
Well.....WTF. Been here 5 years , and it ends like that.....wouldn't you think I'd be able to get unemployment? My wifes upset of course....but since I've been good with my finances , I have no real outstanding debt...and my total bills per month are about $500...and I've got a few thousand stashed back.
Guess I'm just venting here.....this is crap!!!

total bills per month is $500?! WTF?!

rent/food/gas for car/entertainement/misc/etc is only $500/month?!?!?!

if so, then HOW?!

our house payment is now only $625 a month
gas - $36
electricity - $80
water - $33
cable & internet $80
Car insurance - $75 (car's paid off - 05' sunfire.. Talon is not insured , sits in the garage)
food - $75
Total = $1004 and wife and I split everything down the middle.

I'm a very concious person when it comes to utilities , and my house is very effecient energy wise...Insulated very well , and I've insulated all of my water pipes to maintain efficiency of the water heater , every light in my house is a energy efficient flourescent bulb , the ones that are not , I've installed digital switches with dimmers built in. (one tap and lights come to 50% tap again to 100%..this helps at night too so you don't blind yourself!)
So I've been able to really keep our bills down. The only other bill that I have is cell phone , and my wife pays for that...always has ,and don't know why!

 

[Maxspeed996]

Originally posted by: MaxDepth
DO NOT RESIGN!

Also - does this company have remediation / HR consultants? You need to speak to them. Nothing threatning like "I'll sue" because that does no one any good. More of, how can we fix this issue? Instead of being fired, maybe both side can rake a look at what concerns the company has about you? Not enough time at the job? Can this be ifxed? Can there be another solution?


Basically, this person wants you gone because they feel you are not living up to their expectations (from what I have read). Sitting down and talking about with an HR person who knows employment policy might be the answer to resolving this issue without you leaving.

And basically you either work together better, they let you go and you pick up unemployment (which they pay into), or you still work and wait out either him going away or you going on to something else.

Honestly this sounds like the best thing for me to do. And yes I agree , my boss isn't happy with how I'm doing. But is really limiting performance by putting restrictions on what I am able to do $$ wise. Yesterday , I found a situation that worked out literally PERFECT , and upped our quota. And he told me "no I don't want you to do that". I went over his head to the general manager , and it was approved very quickly. My boss and I sit literally back to back , and we have not spoken since this happened a few days ago. It just feels like he's out to undermine anything I can do , whatever it takes , to get me the heck outta here.

 

[CKDragon]

Originally posted by: Maxspeed996

Originally posted by: MaxDepth
DO NOT RESIGN!

Also - does this company have remediation / HR consultants? You need to speak to them. Nothing threatning like "I'll sue" because that does no one any good. More of, how can we fix this issue? Instead of being fired, maybe both side can rake a look at what concerns the company has about you? Not enough time at the job? Can this be ifxed? Can there be another solution?


Basically, this person wants you gone because they feel you are not living up to their expectations (from what I have read). Sitting down and talking about with an HR person who knows employment policy might be the answer to resolving this issue without you leaving.

And basically you either work together better, they let you go and you pick up unemployment (which they pay into), or you still work and wait out either him going away or you going on to something else.

Honestly this sounds like the best thing for me to do. And yes I agree , my boss isn't happy with how I'm doing. But is really limiting performance by putting restrictions on what I am able to do $$ wise. Yesterday , I found a situation that worked out literally PERFECT , and upped our quota. And he told me "no I don't want you to do that". I went over his head to the general manager , and it was approved very quickly. My boss and I sit literally back to back , and we have not spoken since this happened a few days ago. It just feels like he's out to undermine anything I can do , whatever it takes , to get me the heck outta here.

Hell yes. Take his job!

Hope everything works out. Everyone here has given good advice. Keep us updated.

 

[bctbct]

Sounds like your wife has medical issues that you may need to file a request under the Family Medical Leave Act.

Maybe after a few weeks your boss might be under the impression that letting you go would be retaliation.