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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Amused
Which one? The "bingbingbing?"
nah, the one about "super-size" and "600 more calories/day" for the average american than 30 years ago...
buncha fatties!
Oh yeah. I conceed that people are eating more. However, the foods in their diet have changed very little in the past 30 years... and that was pretty much my point. I guess less time doing physical labor means more time to sit on one's ass and eat.
But my real point was that blaming high fat, refined sugars and starch and so forth really misses the mark. We ate that same crap throughout the 70s and didn't gain much if any weight per capita. What did change is the lack of activity, and (conceeding to your point) serving sizes.
so it all boils down to what we've known all along
1) people don't excercise
2) people eat too much
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Yep, that's about it.
Funny thing, though. I actually am not as hungry now that I'm excercising. And I don't have as much time to sit and think about food, or eat. In my case, and I think this may apply to others, I ate too much because I wasn't excercising.
You've been getting good advice here, Chaotic42, particularly from Amused pertaining to the PT regimen and nutrition. Everyone seems to be doing a great job assisting you in improving your cardiorespiratory and musculoskeletal performance, so I won't need to lecture about that . My soapbox for this thread will be injury prevention. Amused mentioned stretching and it's benefits, but I'm going to advocate it much, much more.
Based on my experience, there are three main types of stretching. The first and most important for you is warmup stretching. Oddly enough, the key to successful warmup stretching is present in its name, WARM UP! Make sure you jog a few laps before you do a routine that stretches your muscles, you DO NOT want to stretch cold muscles. Warmup stretching can prevent various painful after-effects of your workout. REMEMBER, A STRETCH SHOULD NEVER BE PAINFUL!!! If it is, tone it down man otherwise you'll be worse off than you were having not stretched. The second type of stretching is flexibility stretching, which in your case you would do after you've completed your workout. With your muscles, tendons, and ligaments at their "operating teperature", so to speak (almost like a car's oil temp) you can stretch farther than you could prior to your workout or during the warmup stretch, and you should do this if you want to gain muscular flexibility. You would hold the stretches longer and go farther than the warmup stretch, but again it should not be painful. The third type of stretching is probably the least important to you, and I call this combat stretching. This involves rotating various joints and stretching various ligaments to improve joint flexibility, combat resiliency, and injury resistance. Another important reason is that every millimeter of flexibility you have can buy you a little bit of time in a fight if someone has you in a joint lock of some kind. This type of flexibility is probably not important to 99% of ATOT, but it happens to be the most crucial for me and what I do, so I'm throwing it out here.
Stretching will also improve your strength training considerably. Recovery will be faster and so will improvement. Keep it up, and pay attention to the encouragement and reassurance of the members here on AT, encouragement is a HUGE part of any health plan. Have fun in the military!
. My soapbox for this thread will be injury prevention. Amused mentioned stretching and it's benefits, but I'm going to advocate it much, much more.Based on my experience, there are three main types of stretching. The first and most important for you is warmup stretching. Oddly enough, the key to successful warmup stretching is present in its name, WARM UP! Make sure you jog a few laps before you do a routine that stretches your muscles, you DO NOT want to stretch cold muscles. Warmup stretching can prevent various painful after-effects of your workout. REMEMBER, A STRETCH SHOULD NEVER BE PAINFUL!!! If it is, tone it down man otherwise you'll be worse off than you were having not stretched. The second type of stretching is flexibility stretching, which in your case you would do after you've completed your workout. With your muscles, tendons, and ligaments at their "operating teperature", so to speak (almost like a car's oil temp
) you can stretch farther than you could prior to your workout or during the warmup stretch, and you should do this if you want to gain muscular flexibility. You would hold the stretches longer and go farther than the warmup stretch, but again it should not be painful. The third type of stretching is probably the least important to you, and I call this combat stretching. This involves rotating various joints and stretching various ligaments to improve joint flexibility, combat resiliency, and injury resistance. Another important reason is that every millimeter of flexibility you have can buy you a little bit of time in a fight if someone has you in a joint lock of some kind. This type of flexibility is probably not important to 99% of ATOT, but it happens to be the most crucial for me and what I do, so I'm throwing it out here. Stretching will also improve your strength training considerably. Recovery will be faster and so will improvement. Keep it up, and pay attention to the encouragement and reassurance of the members here on AT, encouragement is a HUGE part of any health plan. Have fun in the military!
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Yeah, my weight has been the same since I came off of that stupid vegan diet where I went down to 165 pounds. I'm a big guy, and 165 is about the level that I start needing IV fluids. I'd say 200 is my ideal weight.
Happy Puppy: I fail to see the point in trying to get ready for boot camp. The purpose of boot camp is to whip you into shape.
Why?
1. So that I can get down to my ideal weight
2. So that I can get used to daily exercise
3. So that I can start feeling healthy
4. So that I can work up my endurance
Give it a rest.
No.
Amused: this is the Air Force. I thought that's where the sissy, nancy-boy whiners went?
It is
I used to live near Keesler AFB, the 3C0 and weather training base. There were lots of Airmen there fresh out of BMT that did nothing buy while. It was like a sniviling contest at the local mall. I've heard people talk about going AWOL, given clumsy Airmen their hats back after they drop them in Walmart, and seen them cry. That said, I'm not going to be one of them. Maybe if I do my job and don't complain about it, I can get promoted faster.
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You're doing fine. Yes, lifting weights will speed your weight loss. By building muscle, you up your metabolism. Strong muscles burn more calories even sitting still. Build all the major muscle groups, including the legs. And yes, it is smart to lift weights with your legs even though you also run. In fact, I've started doing my runs directly after my lifting.
Do the "push/pull" lifting schedule I described earlier. It works like a charm.
Keep working on the Couch to 5K plan. By the time you're running 2 miles straight through, you'll have gone way past that imaginary 220 barrior. But you need to stick with the plan. NO SLACKING. Remember, slacking on your workouts is like masturbating; You're only fscking yourself.
You'll start losing the most weight when you do cardio exercise for 30 minutes straight at your maximum target heart rate. You'll lose even more once you lengthen it to 40 minutes. Your body starts burning fat 20-30 minutes into your workout, so long as you stay constant and keep your heart rate up the whole time. This is your BIGGEST incentive to focus on the plan, and finish it. The fat just starts melting away by week five of the plan.
BTW, you'll be surprised how easy that first two mile run is. My first went so well I just did three miles and finished the plan. Now I'm running 4+ miles, 4 days a week. Sure, there are days where my body just doesn't want to do it. But that fades after the first mile.
Hey, BTW, I wanted to see how I'd do on the Army PT test. (Not to brag or anything, but this is amazing for a 35 year old ex-smoking, ex-lard ass old fart who just started getting into shape this summer) So I gave it a try Monday at the Gym.
Here was my results (60 is a passing score)
Pushups - 65 reps in two minutes. Score: 90
About 10 minutes of rest
Situps - 90 reps in two minutes. Score: 100+
About 15 minutes of rest
2 Mile run - 15:10. Score: 83
Miller Time! (actually I slowed my pace down and ran two more miles)
Not bad, huh?
Wow, you're still going on that? Keep up the good work!
Sometimes you can't get below a certain weight... as long as the weight is due to muscle and not fat, I would say don't worry about it.... Don't starve yourself either!
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Maybe I'll look into getting one of those $150 home gyms. I used to have one. I built muscle incredibly fast.
Keep working on the Couch to 5K plan. By the time you're running 2 miles straight through, you'll have gone way past that imaginary 220 barrior. But you need to stick with the plan. NO SLACKING. Remember, slacking on your workouts is like masturbating; You're only fscking yourself.
Really? That's where I'm a Viking!
Oh, wait.... um... forget that part.
You'll start losing the most weight when you do cardio exercise for 30 minutes straight at your maximum target heart rate. You'll lose even more once you lengthen it to 40 minutes. Your body starts burning fat 20-30 minutes into your workout, so long as you stay constant and keep your heart rate up the whole time. This is your BIGGEST incentive to focus on the plan, and finish it. The fat just starts melting away by week five of the plan.
20-30 minutes? Cool. ABC Radio (for whatever that may be worth) says that for every 14g of insoluble fiber that you eat, 10% of your daily calories are basically negated. I find that hard to believe. I have to get down to 201 pounds, or 206 if it happens after May (when I turn 21).
Hey, BTW, I wanted to see how I'd do on the Army PT test. (Not to brag or anything, but this is amazing for a 35 year old ex-smoking, ex-lard ass old fart who just started getting into shape this summer) So I gave it a try Monday at the Gym.
Here was my results (60 is a passing score)
Pushups - 65 reps in two minutes. Score: 90
About 10 minutes of rest
Situps - 90 reps in two minutes. Score: 100+
About 15 minutes of rest
2 Mile run - 15:10. Score: 83
Miller Time! (actually I slowed my pace down and ran two more miles)
Not bad, huh?
Not bad at all. I'd be dead! I thought you were like 26 man. I didn't know you were in your 30s. I don't think anyone I know could do that, 20 or 30
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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Not bad at all. I'd be dead! I thought you were like 26 man. I didn't know you were in your 30s. I don't think anyone I know could do that, 20 or 30
Oh yes, I'm old... I know that.
Yeah, I surprised myself, even. I knew I could do the situps, but the pushups were a surprise. And being able to keep up that running pace surprised me as well. It's nice to see results.
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Cool. You know what? I just looked up the AF weight requirements... I was wrong about how much more I need to lose. It's not 20....
it's 2.
lol. Oops. I'll still try to get in better shape. This means that I can leave earlier hopefully. Problem is that my tech school might not have another cycle soon.
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Originally posted by: Amused
LOL! Well, still stick with the plan. Doing so will make Basic not so miserable. Trust me on this.
Besides, if you go in pudgy, they'll treat you like private Pyle in Full Metal Jacket.
I've never seen that movie
Anyway, I was thinking about showing up for BMT in a Navy Admiral's Uniform. Maybe put on a Congressional Medal of Honor or something. I wonder what would happen....
NO
Not that they'd take me anyway (I'm 45, Canadian and don't like state sponsered aggression).
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