Getting Divorced - It is officially over! Done! Fini!

SaigonK

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It's finally over! ! ! Update 11-04-2004 :Q


So we went today at 9:00AM, and we signed in fornt of the judge, no real hassle at all. We also waived the mandatory 21 day grace period that the state allows for. I am officially single and have an "ex".


The terms worked out as follows:

1. We get the kids 50/50, shared residency and parental rights.

2. We both keep our bills, so basically we take the debt we incurred with us.

3. She keeps her car, I keep mine.

4. We already split up the majority of the items we shared, furniture, clothes, etc. so no issues there.

5. Holidays work out as follows:

Each even numbered year she gets them for thanksgiving, on the odd numbered years I get them.

Each even numbered year I get them for Xmas, from Christmas Eve at 3:00Pm until 12:00PM on Xmas Day. She gets them from 12:00PM Xmas day until 3:00PM on December 29th, then i get them from the 29th until January 2nd at the start of school. It alternates on the odd years so we each get time during New Years day, etc.

School vacations are done as follows: The parent having contact with the kids during the first weekenmd of vacation shall continue to have them until Wednedsday of the following week at 5:00PM The other parent will have them from Wednesday 5:00Pm until the following Monday at the start of shcool.

During the summer vacation, we do the 50/50 schedule, Mon. Tuesday wiith their mother, Wednesday Thursday with me. We will alternate weekends so we will each have them 5 days in a row during a two week period.

Each parent is entitled to spend up to three non consecutive weeks each year for vacation witht he kids, outside of the other holidays and shcool vacations. During the even years she gets first choice and during the odd years I get first choice.

I get my older daughter for taxes, she gets my younger daighter. They are two years apart.
I get to keep my 401k and all my stock options, etc.

My bi-weekly support is: $411.
This might seem like a lot, but it covers the cost of daycare, my actual support amoutn and the cost of health insurance.

Besides that there is nothing else to really say on the terms side of things.


On the personal side of things, she has been informing our daughters that she will be dating soon, it looks to be a guy she might have been seeing while we were still married, and though that could be a sore spot, i really dont mind at all. If she can find someone new, it might make my life easier.

I am not dating at all right now, i did get lucky a few times :) But i am not really that interested in a relationship.

I wanted to say thanks to all of the people here at AT who handed me adivce and criticism.
The advice and support made me feel good when I needed to, and the criticism made me see things clearer when i was being short sighted and obstinant.

Thanks! And now on tot he rest of my life. :D

 

Armitage

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The other wy she can get you to move ut is to file false domestic violence charges against you. Be very careful. And good luck.
 

GalvanizedYankee

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I hope you got a good lawyer. Don't let your feelings get in the way of him/her
doing what is best for you. I did that and regretted it later.........:)
 

DurocShark

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Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
I hope you got a good lawyer. Don't let your feelings get in the way of him/her
doing what is best for you. I did that and regretted it later.........:)

Best for you AND the kids!!!!
 

ScottyB

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Why would you have to pay child support if you get the kids half the time? That doesn't make any sense.
 

Aves

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Originally posted by: ScottyB
Why would you have to pay child support if you get the kids half the time? That doesn't make any sense.

Yeah I don't get that either.
 

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Originally posted by: ScottyB
Why would you have to pay child support if you get the kids half the time? That doesn't make any sense.

THe only reason I know of is if he makes more money than her.
 

SaigonK

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Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: ScottyB Why would you have to pay child support if you get the kids half the time? That doesn't make any sense.
THe only reason I know of is if he makes more money than her.

BINGO! Give that man a lollipop!
I make 65% of the income in our home while she makes only 35%. Of course that's because she had to have her perfect job, and wont go work somewhere else where she could make more money! I asked my lawyer about that as well, he said we should definitely get the support written so that when she finishes her masters and they give her a pay bump
(her employer has already agreed to it) that we should review the amounts and go form there.


I defintiely agree with him!
 

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There goes another one to add to the statistic of high divorce rate in America.
 

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The nicest thing about 50/50 physical custody agreements with minimal or no monery changing hands is that over time you can start leaving the kiddies more and more with the other parent during the time you're supposed to have them.The other parent is usually then struggling so hard to keep up with the extra work and the costs that they cannot afford to pay their lawyer to take you back tpo court.End result,you get to keep the bulk of your income and your time,plus you get the thrill of knowing that you saddled the ex bitch with a ton of work and virtually ensure that she has no money or time to start a new life and that no new man will want her.

Btw for those of you who want to start yelling about child support enforcement let me say this that unless a woman is on welfare her case goes to the bottom of the pile in terms of getting the state to represent your interests.If /when your case comes up all the defaulting parent has to do is hire a lawyer,skilled at going to court and getting the case continued and continued..most average working women will finally just give up cause there's a limit to how many days one can miss from work without putting their job on the line.
 

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Geekbabe, you are pretty vile. Feel sorry for the sap that gets involved with you.
 

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Originally posted by: BlipBlop
Geekbabe, you are pretty vile. Feel sorry for the sap that gets involved with you.

No I'm not vile,I tried being civil and fair during my divorce and ended up having the above tactic pulled off on me.After awhile you just give up any hope of expecting any sort of real help either pracitical or fiscal from the other parent and just shoulder the load yourself because trying to pursue justice costs you and the kids money you don't have.Apparently this tactic is a pretty common one from lawyers I've spoken to over the years.
 

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
The nicest thing about 50/50 physical custody agreements with minimal or no monery changing hands is that over time you can start leaving the kiddies more and more with the other parent during the time you're supposed to have them.The other parent is usually then struggling so hard to keep up with the extra work and the costs that they cannot afford to pay their lawyer to take you back tpo court.End result,you get to keep the bulk of your income and your time,plus you get the thrill of knowing that you saddled the ex bitch with a ton of work and virtually ensure that she has no money or time to start a new life and that no new man will want her.

Btw for those of you who want to start yelling about child support enforcement let me say this that unless a woman is on welfare her case goes to the bottom of the pile in terms of getting the state to represent your interests.If /when your case comes up all the defaulting parent has to do is hire a lawyer,skilled at going to court and getting the case continued and continued..most average working women will finally just give up cause there's a limit to how many days one can miss from work without putting their job on the line.

What are you really trying to say with this message? I can read so many different meanings into what you are saying...

It sounds like SaigonK really does want 50% custody of his girls, and I think he has every right to 50% custody. Maybe alternating weeks or months. It is when the parents move apart that things get complex due to school, friends, travel expenses, etc.

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Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: rgwalt
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
The nicest thing about 50/50 physical custody agreements with minimal or no monery changing hands is that over time you can start leaving the kiddies more and more with the other parent during the time you're supposed to have them.The other parent is usually then struggling so hard to keep up with the extra work and the costs that they cannot afford to pay their lawyer to take you back tpo court.End result,you get to keep the bulk of your income and your time,plus you get the thrill of knowing that you saddled the ex bitch with a ton of work and virtually ensure that she has no money or time to start a new life and that no new man will want her.

Btw for those of you who want to start yelling about child support enforcement let me say this that unless a woman is on welfare her case goes to the bottom of the pile in terms of getting the state to represent your interests.If /when your case comes up all the defaulting parent has to do is hire a lawyer,skilled at going to court and getting the case continued and continued..most average working women will finally just give up cause there's a limit to how many days one can miss from work without putting their job on the line.

What are you really trying to say with this message? I can read so many different meanings into what you are saying...

It sounds like SaigonK really does want 50% custody of his girls, and I think he has every right to 50% custody. Maybe alternating weeks or months. It is when the parents move apart that things get complex due to school, friends, travel expenses, etc.

R

What I'm saying is pretty clear,my ex wanted 50/50,cried the crodille tears about his love for his children etc,I gave him a 50/50 agreement with no child support changing hands. In a fairly short period of time I had 100% physical custody and all of the bills.I was a professional woman(although not highly paid) and after rent,childcare and the other costs of rearing kids solo there was no money left to put up much of a fight in court trying to modify the agreement,I was already in trouble at the job for missing so many days due to children's illnesses,cancelling babysitter's tc.My ex got to keep all his time and money.He gives and does things for them only when it suits him period.

Bottom line-both parties lawyers need to write agreements covering how the need for modification will be handled into the original agreement!
 

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
The nicest thing about 50/50 physical custody agreements with minimal or no monery changing hands is that over time you can start leaving the kiddies more and more with the other parent during the time you're supposed to have them.The other parent is usually then struggling so hard to keep up with the extra work and the costs that they cannot afford to pay their lawyer to take you back tpo court.End result,you get to keep the bulk of your income and your time,plus you get the thrill of knowing that you saddled the ex bitch with a ton of work and virtually ensure that she has no money or time to start a new life and that no new man will want her.

Btw for those of you who want to start yelling about child support enforcement let me say this that unless a woman is on welfare her case goes to the bottom of the pile in terms of getting the state to represent your interests.If /when your case comes up all the defaulting parent has to do is hire a lawyer,skilled at going to court and getting the case continued and continued..most average working women will finally just give up cause there's a limit to how many days one can miss from work without putting their job on the line.

In Texas, the courts take a dim view of the parent who doesn't pay child support, and they're pretty ruthless. If you have to take your ex back to court, the ex has to pay your attny fees & court costs if they're found @ fault.

Good thread hijack though:D

I'm just waiting on my band saw & drill press from Amazon:D:D:D

Sorry to hear about your pending family court appearances though SaigonK, just keep in mind you'll want to look your children in the eye 20 years from now & answer some questions honestly. Sounds like you've got your head in the right place though...

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
The nicest thing about 50/50 physical custody agreements with minimal or no monery changing hands is that over time you can start leaving the kiddies more and more with the other parent during the time you're supposed to have them.The other parent is usually then struggling so hard to keep up with the extra work and the costs that they cannot afford to pay their lawyer to take you back tpo court.End result,you get to keep the bulk of your income and your time,plus you get the thrill of knowing that you saddled the ex bitch with a ton of work and virtually ensure that she has no money or time to start a new life and that no new man will want her.

Btw for those of you who want to start yelling about child support enforcement let me say this that unless a woman is on welfare her case goes to the bottom of the pile in terms of getting the state to represent your interests.If /when your case comes up all the defaulting parent has to do is hire a lawyer,skilled at going to court and getting the case continued and continued..most average working women will finally just give up cause there's a limit to how many days one can miss from work without putting their job on the line.

In Texas, the courts take a dim view of the parent who doesn't pay child support, and they're pretty ruthless. If you have to take your ex back to court, the ex has to pay your attny fees & court costs if they're found @ fault.

Good thread hijack though:D

I'm just waiting on my band saw & drill press from Amazon:D:D:D

Sorry to hear about your pending family court appearances though SaigonK, just keep in mind you'll want to look your children in the eye 20 years from now & answer some questions honestly. Sounds like you've got your head in the right place though...

I


good for you,I'm wondering how many jobs I'm going to have to work to fund my retirement once our last child finally becomes an adult.

Oh well,here I am 46,I don't own a home,have no assets,the retirement funds put clothing on three backs,braces on two sets of teeth.My ex got to keep the bulk of his money and his time,that thought ought to give a lot of resentful child support paying men here woodies the size of redwoods,merry Xmas.
 

SaigonK

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Wow, that sucks...but it isnt what I am looking for. I want them 50% of the time, and I want ot make sure they have a good life in BOTH homes.
We argued today about stuff..I should have kept quiet and not said a damn word but I felt like I was being tormented and decided to push back...hindsight is always 20/20.

She kept giggling to herself, making these comments,
"its amazing how your mother said to me once..dont tell anyone your darkest secrets when you sleep with them because they will come back to haunt you later". I was like what is that supposed to mean? She was like oh..nothing, "I am just surprised at how true that staement really is". I told her to stop playing the mind games and stop being snide about something she thinks she might have the upper hand on.

That is when I told her we needed to talk about me oving out and told her that I didnt have to go anywhere, and that i could stay until the divorce was final.
She said "thats not in the best interest of the kids..us living togethor but not talking or arguing at times." I agrred, but i told her if she agreed to my requests then I would move out but not a day sooner or later, she then said "its about the money for you! Thats what really matters to you is the money!" I told her look whos talking, she is all hell bent on the child support issue.

She then came up with a bunch of crap about my 401k and my retirement, and how she had my records of it and that she knew about me taking a loan against it.
I told her SO WHAT, it doesnt mean crap in court, who cares. She said she wouldnt take half of my stock and my 401k if I agreed to her terms, I told her I wanted half of hers...she said "i only have $450 in there so if you want half take it!" then I said I wouldnt agree and we started fighting about the kids and what not again.

It is going to be VERY rough living here with her now that she knows I dont have to leave, i do need to get with my Lawyer on what to do if she decides to try and move out to somewhere else though, he was never clear on that one.



 

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Be very, very careful. If you so much as raise your voice to her she will go to court for a restraining order claiming you are being abusive. She will lie and she will convince the kids to lie. You will be out of the house and won't even be able to visit your kids.
 

SaigonK

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Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Be very, very careful. If you so much as raise your voice to her she will go to court for a restraining order claiming you are being abusive. She will lie and she will convince the kids to lie. You will be out of the house and won't even be able to visit your kids.

I actually thought about this, it worried me. But in the state of maine, if you seek a protection order and then it is found that it was unwarranted, you are considered at fault and can lose almost all of your parental rights for doing so. She knows i am not abusive, and she knows the consequences for trying to do such a thing.
 

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Originally posted by: SaigonK
...then I said I wouldnt agree and we started fighting about the kids and what not again.
This is something I never quite understood, even 15 years after my parents divorced: why fight over the kids? Is she an unfit mother? Are you an unfit father? What is it about the kids that makes them worth fighting over?
 

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: SaigonK ...then I said I wouldnt agree and we started fighting about the kids and what not again.
This is something I never quite understood, even 15 years after my parents divorced: why fight over the kids? Is she an unfit mother? Are you an unfit father? What is it about the kids that makes them worth fighting over?


I am not sure why there is such a fight, its all about what each one thinks is best, unfortunately we will never agree and that will mean living togethor until the divorce is decided by a judge.
How the hell are we supposed to do that? She wants me out in a bad way, she and I both realize that this isnt a good enviornment, but my lawyer is telling me not to go anywhere because if i do and I agree to get out and to a certain schedule, unless there is a solid reason, the court will go with what we already have agreed on prior to the final decision.
 

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Geekbabe - I have seen that happen a hundred times. The only good thing is the children had ONE parent that cared.

SaigonK - I think Geekbabe may be pointing out a road some men chose to take and how it 's not fair to the Ex and especially the kids.
 

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Do I have this right? You have decided to stay in the home with her and the kids. Then you go home and argue with her over crap? A lot of self control on your part will go a long ways. You took a loan out on your 401K and never told her about it?
Secrecy in a marriage will kill it every time.
Mark my words she will have a court order on you in nothing flat and you will be GONE and BROKE. Protect yourself with some security cameras stashed around the house for some proof of her and your actions. She has probably done this already and by argueing you are just giving her ammunition.

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Divorce is seldom easy and even less seldom civil. The man's income increases over 70% in the ensuing years and the womans goes down by 35%. the kids are usually the losers because of the bitterness and dysfunction that ensues. One parent will hook up or remarry and then it starts to get to novel levels of ugliness and abuse.

I work with kids that come from those settings and they are hurting and it can take years for them to recover. I wish you luck on your venture and hope that you can keep your kids on the top of your priorities now that your wife won't be distracting you. I doubt it will happen but if it does you'll be one of the few that can do it.

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SaigonK

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: SaigonK ...then I said I wouldnt agree and we started fighting about the kids and what not again.
This is something I never quite understood, even 15 years after my parents divorced: why fight over the kids? Is she an unfit mother? Are you an unfit father? What is it about the kids that makes them worth fighting over?


I am not sure why there is such a fight, its all about what each one thinks is best, unfortunately we will never agree and that will mean living togethor until the divorce is decided by a judge.
How the hell are we supposed to do that? She wants me out in a bad way, she and I both realize that this isnt a good enviornment, but my lawyer is telling me not to go anywhere because if i do and I agree to get out and to a certain schedule, unless there is a solid reason, the court will go with what we already have agreed on prior to the final decision.