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alkemyst

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Originally posted by: RickerOne
Make sure you check with your attorney as to the legality of any monitoring you may do on the computer.

Good advice...keep in mind a lot of times the 'fighting' spouse ends up criminalizing themselves or set themselves up for a civil suit inadvertedly...when they loved you chances are they'd never press charges/file against you....however watch out though during a nasty breakup.

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SaigonK

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Thanks for the tips guys, I actually feel allot better now than i did a day ago.
My lawyer spelled it out for me like Alkemyst did...."move on, it doesnt matter if she is screwing someone six ways to sunday and doing all the things you never did...shes gone".

My lawyer was right, i am moving on,.
 

Geekbabe

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My ex-husband probably screwed several hundred other women during the course of our marriage.I ended it finally when I couldn't take it anymore.I never discussed the issue with our children and would never have dreamed of making it into a public,legal issue via a nasty divorce,it would have only hurt our kids and really hurt me at a time when I couldn't tolerate any more pain.

What you're doing right now is basically torturing yourself,let it go,if she was cheating all that says is that she was too cowardly to break with you first,it says nothing negative about you or your attractiveness or worth as a man or as a husband.
 

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
My ex-husband probably screwed several hundred other women during the course of our marriage.I ended it finally when I couldn't take it anymore.I never discussed the issue with our children and would never have dreamed of making it into a public,legal issue via a nasty divorce,it would have only hurt our kids and really hurt me at a time when I couldn't tolerate any more pain.
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That is rough. Glad you're away from that.

All I have to say is.. good luck & be strong. Relationships are the best, and the worst things in life. I can't imagine going through something like that, with kids etc all mixed up in the middle.. it would be soo hard.

Don't get caught up in all the BS. After your kids, you have to remember that the only person that matters is you. Don't feel bad making yourself happy. It's a natural, healthy thing to do.

Life will go on.. Don't dwell over the fact that she may have found a new interest.

Heh... I almost feel like a hypocrite saying all that, even though I know its true.. because I would probably almost literally *die* if that happened to me with my current girlfriend(and future wife).. lol

Be strong.
 

SaigonK

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Update for badluck. :)

So things are going along well now, I am much better than I was a couple of weeks ago. Not sure if I just finally came to grips with it being over, but it is and I know it now. Why dwell on it right? I have to say I still have moments where I wonder who that is on the caller ID or if I hit redial and see a number I dont recognize. I think that isnt being nosy, its being human..the thing is that I dont dwell on it or let it bring me down like I did before.

Now I am all wrapped up in buying stuff for my new place! (if and when i get one)
Some conservative estimates I have been told for our divorce to finally get done since we dont agree on the custody of the kids, is around 1 to 1-1/2 years!
I have tons of time to buy stuff for the new place. The wierd part is that we will be living togethor that whole time! I am not leaving my apartment, she wants out she can leave.

My lawyer still says I dont have to move out, that if she feels uncomfortable then she can go, not me. I know I can hold out for as long as it takes, and that might be a key to getting my demands fufilled on the kids stuff.


See my other thread HERE for my recent shopping escapades! :) If you see a deal on house stuff! PM ME asap!


 

SaigonK

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And more!

We decided (after talking to my lawyer) that we should swap weekends while we are still going through this. It isnt anything on paper, but it will help us to compromise in the future.
The good part is that we both will be able to go and do the things we need to or want to.

For example, last weekend was my "weekend off".

Friday night I went to my sister's house for awhile, had a couple beers chilled out with her and her boyfriend, vented little on the big picture in life and then headed home.

Saturday night I went to my sisters again, we went shopping for stuff that I will need, pans, pots, etc. etc. I ended up going home and chaning, said hi to the kids and played with them for a bit. Then i left to go back over to my sisters house where we met some people and the headed to a hockey game. Had a blast and then ahd a few beers at Margarittas (sp?) afterwards.

Sunday I went over to watch the Patriots game with a bunch of people and then headed home, the ex decided to go to the store when i got back home and was gone for a few hours.
The best part was no phone calls, no hassles, no arguing...

This weekend was her "weekend off", Friday night she went shopping for a bit, then onm Saturday she went to her friends house for most of the day. The girls and I stayed home and chilled. Today we both were home, so i took the girls to go look at a new leather couch set for my new place.
I am sure she liked the fact that she didnt have to know where I was or what I was doing. :)






 

[From your linked thread:] "I put up a fight (mainly because I don't believe in them) but I finally agreed to go, she came back to me about 3 weeks ago saying 'nevermind, I dont want to go any more..i dont want to be with you anymore..i want a divorce' I was shocked of course."

Now, let's piece back together this puzzle. You said long time ago that she acted as though she owned the world: "Wife is driving me insane".

Here again, you are speaking of putting up a fight. It seems to me you never learnt of compromising. Furthermore, you admitted that earlier you didn't pay attention to her. You said you had stopped, but who knows. You kept on fighting. . . . If only you had settled and allowed someone be in control or assigned each other responsibilities.

You think she's cheating? Well, at this point it's irrelevant 'cuz the relationship would be doomed or rocky, anyway.

It appears it's too late to mend things, so I'll just wish you good luck. Hopefully you'll be wiser and more willing to compromise in your next relationship. You have a lawyer to handle your divorce proceedings, so obtaining legal advice isn't an issue. Best of luck to your children, wife (soon to be ex-wife) and you too.

"I know I will probably get flamed for saying so, but the divorce/custody/support system in this country is sooooo far slanted towards the women it is not funny. I know that in many situations, the guy is a divk head and should get fleeced for everytihng."

Actually, you're incorrect about being flamed, KarenMarie. You have expressed the majority opinion of the predominantly male forum, so you're on the safe side.
 

SaigonK

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Are putting togethor parts form posts I dont know exist?

It isnt about control, its about us not being married, she doesnt love me anymore, ALL couples fight, its nature.
I am getting over it and as such i should also not worry about what she wants to do or what she wants from me.

The "fight" you speak of out of context is the fight to keep seeing my kids in a manner that is feasible if I want them to even know who I am down the road.
I will fight her until the end to see my daughters, be it we are both broken down, penniless and pissed...

As far as the support system, it IS over-stacked in one direction. I am not saying that women dont deserve support, they do if they are to take care of a child without help from the father.
My point is that i AM willing to take full care of my kids, to pay the bills, feed them, cloth them, etc. Why should i have to pay out the nose if i am also paying half the bills and what not?

Funny thing is my lawyer said "start by asking for primary residency" that way we can barter down to 50/50 shared residency.
My thought is (while this is reality) why the hell should I have to barter for my children in this legal system? I dont do drugs, I am not an alcoholic, I have a great job with all the medical benefits you could ever need, i dont beat them or my soon to be ex, never have.

Why should I not see them because she feels I shoudlnt? She went as far as to say to me that if i fought her on the custody and child support that she would take half of my 401k and my stock options...does that sound to you like someone who is in it for the children? She isnt a bad mother, but a change of life can make people do bizarre things...and this would be one of them. She wants the paycheck..dont fool yourself thinking she doesnt.

Why wouldnt she? imagine that she gets $240 per week form me, her payscale goes up from 26,000 a year to $38,000 a year while i go from $50k to $38k.
Yeah thats really fair, especially when i will have to feed my kids, cloth them, take them to parties or events and pay for it as well. Why should her lifestyle go up and mine goes down?

I worked for my promotions, not her, she sat n her ass and lived off the fruits of my labor, she took numerous jobs and when she either got let go for being a pain in the ass or because they were not "what i want to do with my career" she always knew i would be there to support the family.

I dont care if she is fvcking some guy six ways to sunday, i hope she does, maybe she will ease up a bit and decide it is best to move on for good and finish this stuff.
Let her go out and get some..its her right..it doesnt make her a bad person or bad mother...what makes her a bad person is trying to make it so that I get to see my kids only 48 days out of a year...now that is bullshit.





 

badluck

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thanks for the update..... :D

why bother explaining yourself to luvly? that chic is a disaster.....
 

"Are putting togethor parts form posts I dont know exist?

It isnt about control, its about us not being married, she doesnt love me anymore, ALL couples fight, its nature.
I am getting over it and as such i should also not worry about what she wants to do or what she wants from me."


No, no, you missed my point. Let's see all of the "fights" you've had thus far: You fought about who's in control.

You fought about going for counseling.

You fought implicitly about expressing your love in action (i.e., spending quality time with her) rather than words (i.e., professing your undying love for her).

You are fighting about child custody now.

Ask yourself if you're being honest about your intent. Ask yourself if your view is really as neutral as you would like to believe. Ask yourself if you're truly looking out for the interest of your kids.

You want to share custody 50/50 but only offer $500 monthly. Uhmmm. . . .

Well, let's see, you also said in the other thread "My girls will be ok, she ia great mother and i would never say any differently, no matter how it turns out for us, i know she will always do the right thing for our children. "

Yet in this thread you try to paint her as a bad mother if she's actually looking for a new man or with one: "Allot of sex IS a sign that she is a bad mother when she proclaims that she would NEVER do such s thing to her children, she would never find someone while she was still with me because it would be bad for her kids." So using your own words, what happened to "I would never say. . ."?

I know it's difficult to do, but do an experiment to see how free your mind would be, and you would make better choices for the interest of your kids first. Good luck reallly!
 

SaigonK

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I am not painting her as a bad mother, I am saying that she does not have their best interests in mind completely.
Having sex doesnt make her a bad mother, it makes her horny...just like me..simple as that.

I should have my kids 50% of the time or more, its as simple as that..why should I have to pay her to see my own children?
 

SaigonK

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Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Marriage Sucks !!!!!!!!!!!!

I would not say Marriage sucks, not so much as that people cant keep their word anymore.
I have to agree with some previous posts, and this isnt a direc relation to my situation, I have felt this way for quite some time. It is much easier to get a divorce than it is to work it out, why put an effort into it when you can simply drop off papers and leave. I think allot of people view marriage as nothing more than a ceremony and some paper, when it should be viewed as something a bit more...
 

SaigonK

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So some new updates!

1. The plan we worked out to have one of us responsible for the kids every other weekend seems to be working well.At least for me...I try and go do things outside the house so that we dont have to interact allot.

2. She came to me tonight to discuss life insurance and how we should both put our children on as beneficiaries. I agree with her, she was my beneficiary but I will change it to my kids.
She then decides to say "since you can still have kids..you should do this..." like I am going to have anymore children, I am all set. I have two daughters already!
I told her that we can do the insurance bit, then we mildly discussed the upcoming mediation..most likely in Feb.

I said when we went to that mediation we would have things we agree on and things we dont, and we would go form there. She said we should let them decide a temporary custody at that time so that i could leave the house without having to give up any of my rights. I told her that it wasnt up to me or her, but to our lawyers..my lawyer will tell me what is best. She really wants me out of the apartment, and I told her that i want her to leave and why should I have to go? Her answer: "that isnt in the best interest of the kids".

Again, the idea that she feels she knows just what is best for our kids without my opinion meaning a thing irritates me to no end. She will be in for a rude awakengin when we go to mediation, it seems like she wants everything to go her way and if I DARE say that she wont get things she wants, she gets really pissy about it all....

She feels that during the mediation, they will decide for us on temporary custody, i feel this is exactly what she wants and will jeoparidze my standings on my right to see my kids.
She gets mad when i say " I will talk to my lawyer and we can go from there..." or when i say "there is no reason for me to leave the house...if you want out you can leave"

I know her reasoning behind not wanting to leave, she doestn want to lose the cheap and good rental we have. :) Plus it would cost her money instead of me if she had to move out and I didnt...

Ah well...time to call the lawyer again to see what I can do to make her back off form these types of statements.




 

SaigonK

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On a side note..just when I am feeling a ton better than I ever was about this whole thing, she has to go and argue with me on this stuff...drops me right back into the gutter... :(
 

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
The nicest thing about 50/50 physical custody agreements with minimal or no monery changing hands is that over time you can start leaving the kiddies more and more with the other parent during the time you're supposed to have them.The other parent is usually then struggling so hard to keep up with the extra work and the costs that they cannot afford to pay their lawyer to take you back tpo court.End result,you get to keep the bulk of your income and your time,plus you get the thrill of knowing that you saddled the ex bitch with a ton of work and virtually ensure that she has no money or time to start a new life and that no new man will want her.

Btw for those of you who want to start yelling about child support enforcement let me say this that unless a woman is on welfare her case goes to the bottom of the pile in terms of getting the state to represent your interests.If /when your case comes up all the defaulting parent has to do is hire a lawyer,skilled at going to court and getting the case continued and continued..most average working women will finally just give up cause there's a limit to how many days one can miss from work without putting their job on the line.

In Texas, the courts take a dim view of the parent who doesn't pay child support, and they're pretty ruthless. If you have to take your ex back to court, the ex has to pay your attny fees & court costs if they're found @ fault.

Good thread hijack though:D

I'm just waiting on my band saw & drill press from Amazon:D:D:D

Sorry to hear about your pending family court appearances though SaigonK, just keep in mind you'll want to look your children in the eye 20 years from now & answer some questions honestly. Sounds like you've got your head in the right place though...

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good for you,I'm wondering how many jobs I'm going to have to work to fund my retirement once our last child finally becomes an adult.

Oh well,here I am 46,I don't own a home,have no assets,the retirement funds put clothing on three backs,braces on two sets of teeth.My ex got to keep the bulk of his money and his time,that thought ought to give a lot of resentful child support paying men here woodies the size of redwoods,merry Xmas.

I stop feeling the slightest bit of empathy when you keep harping on "money money money, time time time".
Poor you, you don't own a home....just the love of three children.
Oh poor you you dont have "the bulk of your money" left....wonder what the going rate for watching your children grow up is?

I could keep going on and on, particularly about your "resentful child support paying me" comment and how many times MEN get royally REAMED on child support. And how absolutely bitter, ridiculous, one sides and completely misguided your comments are.

You made NO attempt to have a "moral of the story" until someone called you on it, you've done nothing but gripe about money money money and not ONCE mentioned the value of your OFFSPRING, hell, I don't know, maybe you really would rather trade the three of them in for a condo in a nice area and a new car, sure sounds that way from everything you've said.

So I, for one, have NO pity for you....I'm not saying what your ex did what right, but your no better, neither one of you seems to care about your children half as much as you care about your money.

And if you DO, maybe you should REALLY go back and re-read your posts....see how many times you mentioned anything other than your fiscal losses. It doesnt even seem to have crossed your mind.
 

SaigonK

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Originally posted by: Balthazar
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: Geekbabe The nicest thing about 50/50 physical custody agreements with minimal or no monery changing hands is that over time you can start leaving the kiddies more and more with the other parent during the time you're supposed to have them.The other parent is usually then struggling so hard to keep up with the extra work and the costs that they cannot afford to pay their lawyer to take you back tpo court.End result,you get to keep the bulk of your income and your time,plus you get the thrill of knowing that you saddled the ex bitch with a ton of work and virtually ensure that she has no money or time to start a new life and that no new man will want her. Btw for those of you who want to start yelling about child support enforcement let me say this that unless a woman is on welfare her case goes to the bottom of the pile in terms of getting the state to represent your interests.If /when your case comes up all the defaulting parent has to do is hire a lawyer,skilled at going to court and getting the case continued and continued..most average working women will finally just give up cause there's a limit to how many days one can miss from work without putting their job on the line.
In Texas, the courts take a dim view of the parent who doesn't pay child support, and they're pretty ruthless. If you have to take your ex back to court, the ex has to pay your attny fees & court costs if they're found @ fault. Good thread hijack though:D I'm just waiting on my band saw & drill press from Amazon:D:D:D Sorry to hear about your pending family court appearances though SaigonK, just keep in mind you'll want to look your children in the eye 20 years from now & answer some questions honestly. Sounds like you've got your head in the right place though... I
good for you,I'm wondering how many jobs I'm going to have to work to fund my retirement once our last child finally becomes an adult. Oh well,here I am 46,I don't own a home,have no assets,the retirement funds put clothing on three backs,braces on two sets of teeth.My ex got to keep the bulk of his money and his time,that thought ought to give a lot of resentful child support paying men here woodies the size of redwoods,merry Xmas.
I stop feeling the slightest bit of empathy when you keep harping on "money money money, time time time". Poor you, you don't own a home....just the love of three children. Oh poor you you dont have "the bulk of your money" left....wonder what the going rate for watching your children grow up is? I could keep going on and on, particularly about your "resentful child support paying me" comment and how many times MEN get royally REAMED on child support. And how absolutely bitter, ridiculous, one sides and completely misguided your comments are. You made NO attempt to have a "moral of the story" until someone called you on it, you've done nothing but gripe about money money money and not ONCE mentioned the value of your OFFSPRING, hell, I don't know, maybe you really would rather trade the three of them in for a condo in a nice area and a new car, sure sounds that way from everything you've said. So I, for one, have NO pity for you....I'm not saying what your ex did what right, but your no better, neither one of you seems to care about your children half as much as you care about your money. And if you DO, maybe you should REALLY go back and re-read your posts....see how many times you mentioned anything other than your fiscal losses. It doesnt even seem to have crossed your mind.



Ok...you lost me on this post.....


If you are talking about me, then you are wrong about the child support and the need for money.

Do I think the child support laws are lopsided? yes i do.
Does it matter what I think at this time? No it does not,

Do i agree with giving my ex money to support my children? Absolutley! She cant do it alone, i know that and she knows that. My point is that she expects me to hand out everything and (and here is the key phrase) not want any time with my kids. To her i feel as though she thinks it is a payment to NOT have my kids, to be single and to NOT have to deal with her.


If I wanted that I would have picked up and moved out of state and become another dead-beat dad..I dont want that, i want to see my girls as much as possible.
That doesnt mean that I should have to have their lifestyle with me go way down while hers comes way up. Again, it is about my kids, not about the money, she can have my 401k, she can have my stock options, she can have the insurance, the life insurance, the support...but I have and want the right to see my kids at least 50% of the time and should have the right to be 50% involved in ALL of their lifestyle decisions...

My soon to be ex seems to think that she is in control and that it's her way or the highway. Thus whenever she brings up anything about the divorce at this time, we end up butting heads over it. I asked her last night to not talk to me about anything regarding the divorce or terms while we are still waiting for mediation, this way we dont argue over things.

I have also become more staunch about her comments on me moving out...I have told her that if she does not like the situation then she can move out right now.
She always responds that that isnt in the best interest of the children, my issue with her statement is that she always uses that phrase or comment to justify why I should leave, why she should get to stay and why she should get her way. Now that is just plain wrong, no matter what way you slice it...it is wrong.....














 

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Originally posted by: SaigonK
Originally posted by: Balthazar
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: Geekbabe The nicest thing about 50/50 physical custody agreements with minimal or no monery changing hands is that over time you can start leaving the kiddies more and more with the other parent during the time you're supposed to have them.The other parent is usually then struggling so hard to keep up with the extra work and the costs that they cannot afford to pay their lawyer to take you back tpo court.End result,you get to keep the bulk of your income and your time,plus you get the thrill of knowing that you saddled the ex bitch with a ton of work and virtually ensure that she has no money or time to start a new life and that no new man will want her. Btw for those of you who want to start yelling about child support enforcement let me say this that unless a woman is on welfare her case goes to the bottom of the pile in terms of getting the state to represent your interests.If /when your case comes up all the defaulting parent has to do is hire a lawyer,skilled at going to court and getting the case continued and continued..most average working women will finally just give up cause there's a limit to how many days one can miss from work without putting their job on the line.
In Texas, the courts take a dim view of the parent who doesn't pay child support, and they're pretty ruthless. If you have to take your ex back to court, the ex has to pay your attny fees & court costs if they're found @ fault. Good thread hijack though:D I'm just waiting on my band saw & drill press from Amazon:D:D:D Sorry to hear about your pending family court appearances though SaigonK, just keep in mind you'll want to look your children in the eye 20 years from now & answer some questions honestly. Sounds like you've got your head in the right place though... I
good for you,I'm wondering how many jobs I'm going to have to work to fund my retirement once our last child finally becomes an adult. Oh well,here I am 46,I don't own a home,have no assets,the retirement funds put clothing on three backs,braces on two sets of teeth.My ex got to keep the bulk of his money and his time,that thought ought to give a lot of resentful child support paying men here woodies the size of redwoods,merry Xmas.
I stop feeling the slightest bit of empathy when you keep harping on "money money money, time time time". Poor you, you don't own a home....just the love of three children. Oh poor you you dont have "the bulk of your money" left....wonder what the going rate for watching your children grow up is? I could keep going on and on, particularly about your "resentful child support paying me" comment and how many times MEN get royally REAMED on child support. And how absolutely bitter, ridiculous, one sides and completely misguided your comments are. You made NO attempt to have a "moral of the story" until someone called you on it, you've done nothing but gripe about money money money and not ONCE mentioned the value of your OFFSPRING, hell, I don't know, maybe you really would rather trade the three of them in for a condo in a nice area and a new car, sure sounds that way from everything you've said. So I, for one, have NO pity for you....I'm not saying what your ex did what right, but your no better, neither one of you seems to care about your children half as much as you care about your money. And if you DO, maybe you should REALLY go back and re-read your posts....see how many times you mentioned anything other than your fiscal losses. It doesnt even seem to have crossed your mind.



Ok...you lost me on this post.....


If you are talking about me, then you are wrong about the child support and the need for money.

Do I think the child support laws are lopsided? yes i do.
Does it matter what I think at this time? No it does not,

Do i agree with giving my ex money to support my children? Absolutley! She cant do it alone, i know that and she knows that. My point is that she expects me to hand out everything and (and here is the key phrase) not want any time with my kids. To her i feel as though she thinks it is a payment to NOT have my kids, to be single and to NOT have to deal with her.


If I wanted that I would have picked up and moved out of state and become another dead-beat dad..I dont want that, i want to see my girls as much as possible.
That doesnt mean that I should have to have their lifestyle with me go way down while hers comes way up. Again, it is about my kids, not about the money, she can have my 401k, she can have my stock options, she can have the insurance, the life insurance, the support...but I have and want the right to see my kids at least 50% of the time and should have the right to be 50% involved in ALL of their lifestyle decisions...

My soon to be ex seems to think that she is in control and that it's her way or the highway. Thus whenever she brings up anything about the divorce at this time, we end up butting heads over it. I asked her last night to not talk to me about anything regarding the divorce or terms while we are still waiting for mediation, this way we dont argue over things.

I have also become more staunch about her comments on me moving out...I have told her that if she does not like the situation then she can move out right now.
She always responds that that isnt in the best interest of the children, my issue with her statement is that she always uses that phrase or comment to justify why I should leave, why she should get to stay and why she should get her way. Now that is just plain wrong, no matter what way you slice it...it is wrong.....

saikonk

that post wasn't directed towards you. it seems to me that it is directed towards geekbabe.
 

Balthazar

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that statement would be correct....as would the statement that I have not mastered that whole "quoted reply" thing ;)

sorry about the confusion, yeah you seem to be pretty level about things....geekbabe on the other hand....sounds like she needs to evaluate whats really important in life....then again this is just a dumb forum on the internet....hard to make that kind of judgement about someone on a medium such as this.

best of luck with your divorce, and sorry it happened. :(
 

Balthazar

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Originally posted by: luvly
"Are putting togethor parts form posts I dont know exist?

It isnt about control, its about us not being married, she doesnt love me anymore, ALL couples fight, its nature.
I am getting over it and as such i should also not worry about what she wants to do or what she wants from me."


No, no, you missed my point. Let's see all of the "fights" you've had thus far: You fought about who's in control.

You fought about going for counseling.

You fought implicitly about expressing your love in action (i.e., spending quality time with her) rather than words (i.e., professing your undying love for her).

You are fighting about child custody now.

Ask yourself if you're being honest about your intent. Ask yourself if your view is really as neutral as you would like to believe. Ask yourself if you're truly looking out for the interest of your kids.

You want to share custody 50/50 but only offer $500 monthly. Uhmmm. . . .

Well, let's see, you also said in the other thread "My girls will be ok, she ia great mother and i would never say any differently, no matter how it turns out for us, i know she will always do the right thing for our children. "

Yet in this thread you try to paint her as a bad mother if she's actually looking for a new man or with one: "Allot of sex IS a sign that she is a bad mother when she proclaims that she would NEVER do such s thing to her children, she would never find someone while she was still with me because it would be bad for her kids." So using your own words, what happened to "I would never say. . ."?

I know it's difficult to do, but do an experiment to see how free your mind would be, and you would make better choices for the interest of your kids first. Good luck reallly!

Wow I really dont know how I managed to miss both of your craptastic posts, but, damn you need help....
I thought it was just an overblown joke when I read it in other threads, but you really are a Nazi arent you?!

Holy crap women like you make me want to lose it....nothing is EVER the womans fault, nope, always the guy....I love your methods of reasoning too, about as air-tight as a submarine with a screen door....

Considering all the posts about you on this forum I would have thought you'd have gotten the hint by now that nobody wants needs, or in fact would even benefit from, your wonderfull advice.

:confused:

You are quite a conundrum....
 

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I have asked my soon to be ex not to talk to me about our divorce. It doesnt work for either one of us when we do.
We start talking about what we agree on, then it goes right into what we dont agree on and then it is a bickering match.

My lawyer is sending hers a letter to state our intentions.

Basically says that I am offering / asking for the following:

1. 50% time with my kids.
2, Shared residency
3. I will pay her $65 per week even though i have them 50% of the time and dont really need to pay any support.
4. I will keep the heath insurance, life insurance on them since mine is better.
5. I will pay for half of all "extra stuff" meaning sports, music, art classes, etc.
6. She can have half of my 401k.
7. She can have half of my stock options (if we can legally do that since I dont really own them until they mature in a year.)

I thought this was reasonable....we shall see what her attorney tells her or if she agrees.
 

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Hopefully she will go for it, sounds pretty fair!
Really I cannot even say I'd give her helf of my 401K or stock options. SHE chose to end this correct? Seems a bit strange that she gets "bonuses". I don't know, should a hard to determine I suppose....was the time together worth whatever you are offering her?

There but for the grace of God go I....I guess....

again, sorry this happened to you.
 

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Originally posted by: Balthazar
Hopefully she will go for it, sounds pretty fair! Really I cannot even say I'd give her helf of my 401K or stock options. SHE chose to end this correct? Seems a bit strange that she gets "bonuses". I don't know, should a hard to determine I suppose....was the time together worth whatever you are offering her? There but for the grace of God go I....I guess.... again, sorry this happened to you.

To be honest that is more of an "incentive" for her to get this moving along.
And it is only money, I can always make it back in the future without her, and it is a small price to pay to see my daughters as much as possible.