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ROTC1983

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After working my butt off to pass my PT test, get my citizenship, and fill out endless oodles of paperwork...I am getting contracted this week into Army ROTC. They are going to pay for the remaining 2 years of school and I get a 350-400 stipend a month. Wish me luck everyone, hopefully I can be an awesome leader when I commission in 2006.
 
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ROTC1983

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Originally posted by: tnitsuj
what mos are you looking into?
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I am definitely looking into MI...If I can't get that, Aviation, MP, or Signal. I gotta check out my choices still if something doesn't go my way.
 
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tnitsuj

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You will live very well if you go MI...however you will have to deal with some of the most arrogant shortsighted idiots possible in MI. be prepared to learn powerpoint and microsoft word very well and be ready to do lots and lots of writing of basically meaningless intsums
 
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ROTC1983

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Originally posted by: tnitsuj
You will live very well if you go MI...however you will have to deal with some of the most arrogant shortsighted idiots possible in MI. be prepared to learn powerpoint and microsoft word very well and be ready to do lots and lots of writing of basically meaningless intsums
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Yeah, I hope to make a difference when I serve...I have seen so many arrogant people in the military (some are even cadets like I am) thanks to me being a Military brat. I hope I do get MI though...my Professor of Military science is MI and I got someone who has my back then :)

 
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TallBill

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GAH, stay away from MP!!! All other mos problems aside, you'll never be home. Good luck though.
 
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jemcam

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As a former Army Officer myself, the best advice I can give you is to learn to rely on your NCO's. They have the experience and knowledge needed to complete the mission. This was the hardest thing for me to learn, since I wanted everything done perfectly and timely. Sometimes you can't have both, and it took me a while to learn this. Your first several years as an officer should be spent just learning from a Senior NCO.

Even if you outrank them, you need to almost take a subordinate role with these guys. Hopefully you'll be hooked up with a good E7 that is willing to work with you.

Also, remember that NCO's can and do make or break an Officer's career, so treat them well. If they know you are loyal to them, they will follow you anywhere and will bend over backwards to make you look good and help you out. If they think you're an arrogant fvck looking only to forward your career, they'll fvck you over and hang you out to dry.

Don't make the mistake of pestering these guys to death after giving an order. Give them a task then let them work, that's what they want and need from you.
 
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ROTC1983

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Originally posted by: Train
Originally posted by: jemcam
...rely on your NCO's....
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I agree with that... I heard a story a couple of days ago where the Butterbar was literally "broken" after messing with some NCOs...my dad is a First Sergeant, and he told me the same thing...listen to your NCOs.
 
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TreyRandom

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Originally posted by: jemcam
As a former Army Officer myself, the best advice I can give you is to learn to rely on your NCO's. They have the experience and knowledge needed to complete the mission. This was the hardest thing for me to learn, since I wanted everything done perfectly and timely. Sometimes you can't have both, and it took me a while to learn this. Your first several years as an officer should be spent just learning from a Senior NCO.

Even if you outrank them, you need to almost take a subordinate role with these guys. Hopefully you'll be hooked up with a good E7 that is willing to work with you.

Also, remember that NCO's can and do make or break an Officer's career, so treat them well. If they know you are loyal to them, they will follow you anywhere and will bend over backwards to make you look good and help you out. If they think you're an arrogant fvck looking only to forward your career, they'll fvck you over and hang you out to dry.

Don't make the mistake of pestering these guys to death after giving an order. Give them a task then let them work, that's what they want and need from you.
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Great advice. :thumbsup:

I was an enlisted soldier in MI, active from '89 to '92, reserves from '92-'95. The officers that worked with and relied on the NCOs were among the best; those that didn't were among the worst.

Thank you for volunteering to serve.
 
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Feldenak

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Good luck. My little brother just graduated from OSU on an Army ROTC scholarship. He's at Benning now for IOBC. My house has turned into a home away for him and a bunch of his classmates. They're over here almost every weekend. :)
 
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I second what TallBill said, stay away from the MP Corps unless you want to deploy often, never have a family or a stable home life and work constantly. I'm an Army Reserve MP and can attest to the fact that being an Active Duty MP is one of the toughest, most demanding jobs available today, period.

BTW, I'm completing my Warrant Officer packet this week. I'll be giving up my E-7/SFC promotion in the MP ranks in favor of becoming a Systems/Network Specialist for the Army Reserve, a job I already do as a Department of the Army civilian anyway. Time to leave the MP Corps for me, simply because I don't get to do what I joined up for anymore as a SFC.
 
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tnitsuj

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Originally posted by: Rogue
I second what TallBill said, stay away from the MP Corps unless you want to deploy often, never have a family or a stable home life and work constantly. I'm an Army Reserve MP and can attest to the fact that being an Active Duty MP is one of the toughest, most demanding jobs available today, period.

BTW, I'm completing my Warrant Office packet this week. I'll be giving up my E-7/SFC promotion in the MP ranks in favor of becoming a Systems/Network Specialist for the Army Reserve, a job I already do as a Department of the Army civilian anyway. Time to leave the MP Corps for me, simply because I don't get to do what I joined up for anymore as a SFC.
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Good luck on the warrant application. I hear warrant school isn't all that bad, some of my best buddies in theatre were warrants..although getting rid of the rising eagle still doesn't make sense to me.

Also, ever consider trying to switch over to being a 33?
 
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