Getting a new car after graduation

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BlitzPuppet

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sản phẩm dịch vụ tốt - uy tín - phục vụ nhiệt tình . Giá cả phù hợp với thị trường

Banana here has a point!

All joking aside, it's always a bad idea to buy a new car right after you start a new job. Sure, treat yourself to some other toys (I bought myself a new rifle as my new job gift), cars are expensive and like you've noticed, depreciate fast.

Grow some roots at your company, and then look at getting a new car :).
 

fleshconsumed

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The internship was in Seattle, but I've lived in Northern VA before college. Still, I've never been financially independent around here. Waiting a little sounds best.

I think that's a good choice given that you've never worked with the people in that particular office and that you have no idea about living costs in DC.

To elaborate a little, I do not want to "kill" your dream, and I know that coming fresh out of school low 90's with signing bonuses sounds awesome. However, you'll be living in one of the most expensive areas in the country. Furthermore, being a single renter you'll be f'ed to the wazoo on your taxes. Low 90's put you squarely in the 25% federal tax brackets, in fact you're almost touching 28%, the standard deduction and personal exemption will put you just below 28% tax bracket, but I'm thinking that signing bonus/end year bonuses will bring you back into 28% tax bracket. Plus you have to consider state tax bracket as well - looks like DC starts taxing you at 4% and goes to 8.5% after $40K, so you'll be paying 8.5% on $50K of your income. And then you have to remember about Social Security, Medicare taxes and high sales tax as well. Trust me when I say it, after DC rents and all the taxes, that 90's figure is going to shrink by a third just because of the taxes, my rough calculations say you'll be paying about $6,500 to the state, about $19,000 to the feds, and about $6500 to the Social Security and Medicare. The actual amounts may vary a bit depending on your bonus/deductions, but you can realistically expect to pay about $30K in various taxes. I don't know about rents in your specific area, but it looks like you should expect to pay about 1200 for a 1 bedroom apartment, add another $1K for bills, food, eating out, misc spending and it leaves you with about $30K of "disposable" income assuming you're putting away $0 for retirement. Once again, that sounds like a fair amount left over, but that number is before any retirement savings, any vacations, and any "toy" purchases, be it new computer/monitors/tvs/home theaters/skis/snowboards/mountain bikes.

I do not want to sound like an old man, but given your high income tax burden, I would advise you to actually max out your 401K/403b, and when I say max out I mean put away $17,500/$18,000 for 2015. After you cross $50K income threshold you're paying 41.25% of your income to various tax bodies (25% feds, 8.5% state, 6.2% Social Secutiry, 1.45% Medicare). It makes sense to reduce your taxable burden now as much as you can and it pays to start saving early. With the 40% tax burden those 18K would only be like 10K actual income if you actually decided to skip retirement contributions.

In short, I believe you made the right choice to wait a year or two before splurging on a fancy car like that. Wait to see how you like your new job, your new coworkers, wait to see how much disposable income you will actually have left after all the taxes, bills, and living expenses. As I said before, if I were you I would put away the max, i.e. $18K in your 401K, at your income level and at your tax bracket you won't miss it too much. If after a few years you feel like you can comfortably make the 435i M-Sport car payment - then go for it.

PS congratulations on coming such a long way and landing a good paying job straight our of college.
 
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Wuzup101

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Great to hear that you got a good job out of college man! Do yourself a favor and listen to the guys in this forum and put off your dream of owning a bimmer for a bit. I'd say that if you can continue to use the car that you are using now for 6 months that's a good start. That will let you get a feel for how much cash flow you have after you find an apartment and whatnot.

Next? I would never recommend that any younger guy/gal who is just getting out on their own buy a [edit: NEW] BMW (really of any type). Instead, pick up a used 135/335i (or 335is) or whatnot. They depreciate like rocks and you can find nice ones with 50k on them for much much lower than their MSRP. Heck - if you want an awesome bimmer find a e46 330i with the performance (ZHP) package... should be able to pick up one for under $10k in good condition.

In 5 years you very well may be in the position to drop that sort of loot on a new bimmer. For right now, help future you out and forgo it.
 

jagec

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Yes, I didn't mean a quarter grand. Take it two orders of magnitude higher, and that's what I meant. I was hoping to put a down payment of about ten grand. I get another somewhat similar bonus the following year as well. Makes sense that you can't take the money and run, though, which is why they'll require me to stick around at a year if I want to keep the bonus without paying it back to them.

So it's more like $115k a year for the first two years?

Tell you what, if you can max out your 401k (that means $18k/year in 2015, by the way) and Roth, pay for all of your housing and living expenses, AND save over $1k/month for a full year, then you're allowed to buy the car of your dreams (although this is one of those odd cases where leasing might actually make more sense).

It doesn't make financial sense, but...I understand.

We're at a HHI of $125k/year, still driving a 97 Civic, but I gotta admit that I'll be eyeing something quite a bit more fun to drive in a year or two (although probably still used). The whole point of being frugal is that you can occasionally splurge on something without second-guessing yourself or worrying about whether you can afford it.
 

TridenT

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you'll get awfully tired of 800/mo in a car payment. mine was 345/mo and that was annoying enough.

why not look at a lightly used 335i coupe? will save you $$$

and wait and see how your job works out. plus the DC metro area is notoriously expensive.

I know you are all excited for your new job, But IF you were a smart dude you would wait and see how the job works out for you and your employer BEFORE you commit that much money on anything.

Why you ask. You may Hate that job and want to move on. The employer may Hate you and want you to move along... You never know.

Better to wait a bit and make sure it works out first.

All of this.

Do not buy an expensive car. Just get something that gets your from point A to B cheaply and reliably.
 

waffleironhead

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You could always get a Camry. Toyota offers new grad cash incentive and probably has 0% Apr for 60-72 months depending on your market. Drive a snooze fest for a few years, then upgrade to your dream car later.
 

Wuzup101

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You could always get a Camry. Toyota offers new grad cash incentive and probably has 0% Apr for 60-72 months depending on your market. Drive a snooze fest for a few years, then upgrade to your dream car later.

The benefit of this is that you still have a very reliable daily driver in 5 years and can get something less practical for a second car (think less 3 series and move Viper).