Ughhh TMobile >>>>>>>>>>>> Cingular.
In CA:
1) Tmobile = Tmobile's own towers + Cingular's old towers
2) Cingular = ATT's network
Anyways, TMobile pays FAR BETTER commission to retailers than Cingular does. Thus, you can get cheaper phones with Tmobile.
RaZr is free EASILY anywhere I go.
And I think you guys need to stop looking at Cingular's phone selection and basically look at the entire GSM phone product line. Phones like the Samsung E730, Sony Ericsson K750i, Nokia N90, etc aren't going to be at Cingular's website. Nor ar ethey gonna be at any OFFICIAL TMobile or Cingular store. Thus, learn to walk into an asian cell phone store like I did and ask for a K750i and bam, get fitted with a kickass phone for a kickass price.