Getting a 2nd ipod..

[Noobtastic]

My school is issuing incoming 9 and 10th graders brand new Macbooks and video ipods. (Used during class)



Will using the two ipods on the same computer cause any problems? Should I stick with using my personal ipod on windows and use academic ipod on the mac??

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
My school is issuing incoming 9 and 10th graders brand new Macbooks and video ipods. (Used during class)



Will using the two ipods on the same computer cause any problems? Should I stick with using my personal ipod on windows and use academic ipod on the mac??

WTF do you go to school?

 

[MrBond]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
My school is issuing incoming 9 and 10th graders brand new Macbooks and video ipods. (Used during class)



Will using the two ipods on the same computer cause any problems? Should I stick with using my personal ipod on windows and use academic ipod on the mac??

WTF do you go to school?

Wasn't Duke giving incoming freshman iPods at one point? This isn't new (especially the laptop thing).

Of course, they're not free, you do pay for them in tuition, it's just not itemized as "iPod" and "Powerbook"

You should be able to use two iPods on one machine. I don't use iTunes, I use the Winamp iPod plugin, but it queries the iPod every time you connect to see what's on it, so each one will display its own contents.

Where you might run into trouble is syncing podcasts. I'm not sure if iTunes will recognize two different iPods with different names and sync stuff accordingly. If it doesn't, and you want to use them on the same computer, you could use iTunes to manage one, then Winamp to manage the other.

 

[secretanchitman]

ive used my brothers 20GB 4G ipod (non-color but i dont think it matters), my 5G 30 black ipod (itunes even shows if the ipod is black or white!), and my brothers gfs 1GB ipod shuffle.

all worked fine...you just couldnt transfer music to them because they were "authorized" from another computer.

 

[Noobtastic]

I'm entering 9th grade at a local charter school. This is the first year for the High School, and because it's a charter school it must score above the average state standards every year. Public School's suck around here.


(In literal terms, a charter school is a public school. However, charters are very selective of students. Enforcing truency is a big no-no. You don't wanna show up for class? Fine, there's 100 other kids waiting to get in)

First High School in my area to start using macbooks and ipods in studies.
I only pay an insurance fee - $100.

Software included.

Great eh?

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
I'm entering 9th grade at a local charter school. This is the first year for the High School, and because it's a charter school it must score above the average state standards every year. Public School's suck around here.


(In literal terms, a charter school is a public school. However, charters are very selective of students. Enforcing truency is a big no-no. You don't wanna show up for class? Fine, there's 100 other kids waiting to get in)

First High School in my area to start using macbooks and ipods in studies.
I only pay an insurance fee - $100.

Software included.

Great eh?

like hell you guys need laptops or ipods. the best way to learn is pencil and paper, PERIOD. you wanna know why kids these days can't do math quickly in their head? it's because they've become so used to doing it on a calculator. hell, i didn't need a calculator for most of my classes, unless i happened to be doing something related to E, or unusual angles for sin/cos/tan/inverses, etc.

throwing money at the problem only solves so much - parents are the ones who make the REAL difference.

 

[Kadarin]

What could they possibly be doing that would require students to have a video ipod? My guess is that the money spent on this could find far, far better use elsewhere.

 

[Scouzer]

iPod??? WTF?

I could see the powerbook...i guess..

 

[Ika]

How would you use video iPods only during class? I can see it being used to keep podcasts from teachers, but if you're only allowed to use it in class...

or are you allowed to take it home?

 

[DannyLove]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
I'm entering 9th grade at a local charter school. This is the first year for the High School, and because it's a charter school it must score above the average state standards every year. Public School's suck around here.


(In literal terms, a charter school is a public school. However, charters are very selective of students. Enforcing truency is a big no-no. You don't wanna show up for class? Fine, there's 100 other kids waiting to get in)

First High School in my area to start using macbooks and ipods in studies.
I only pay an insurance fee - $100.

Software included.

Great eh?

like hell you guys need laptops or ipods. the best way to learn is pencil and paper, PERIOD. you wanna know why kids these days can't do math quickly in their head? it's because they've become so used to doing it on a calculator. hell, i didn't need a calculator for most of my classes, unless i happened to be doing something related to E, or unusual angles for sin/cos/tan/inverses, etc.

throwing money at the problem only solves so much - parents are the ones who make the REAL difference.

man relax, why are you bashing him.

 

[imported_Imp]

Nothing new. Some genius thinks students need 50 computers, but when all of our course is taught out of a textbook they tell you "we don't have enough books so we can't hand them out."

 

[mAdMaLuDaWg]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
I'm entering 9th grade at a local charter school. This is the first year for the High School, and because it's a charter school it must score above the average state standards every year. Public School's suck around here.


(In literal terms, a charter school is a public school. However, charters are very selective of students. Enforcing truency is a big no-no. You don't wanna show up for class? Fine, there's 100 other kids waiting to get in)

First High School in my area to start using macbooks and ipods in studies.
I only pay an insurance fee - $100.

Software included.

Great eh?

like hell you guys need laptops or ipods. the best way to learn is pencil and paper, PERIOD. you wanna know why kids these days can't do math quickly in their head? it's because they've become so used to doing it on a calculator. hell, i didn't need a calculator for most of my classes, unless i happened to be doing something related to E, or unusual angles for sin/cos/tan/inverses, etc.

throwing money at the problem only solves so much - parents are the ones who make the REAL difference.

You suck... when I was in highschool we weren't allowed to use calculators, we had to use Logarithm books. Beat that sucka! 😉

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
I'm entering 9th grade at a local charter school. This is the first year for the High School, and because it's a charter school it must score above the average state standards every year. Public School's suck around here.


(In literal terms, a charter school is a public school. However, charters are very selective of students. Enforcing truency is a big no-no. You don't wanna show up for class? Fine, there's 100 other kids waiting to get in)

First High School in my area to start using macbooks and ipods in studies.
I only pay an insurance fee - $100.

Software included.

Great eh?

like hell you guys need laptops or ipods. the best way to learn is pencil and paper, PERIOD. you wanna know why kids these days can't do math quickly in their head? it's because they've become so used to doing it on a calculator. hell, i didn't need a calculator for most of my classes, unless i happened to be doing something related to E, or unusual angles for sin/cos/tan/inverses, etc.

throwing money at the problem only solves so much - parents are the ones who make the REAL difference.

You suck... when I was in highschool we weren't allowed to use calculators, we had to use Logarithm books. Beat that sucka! 😉

old school eh?😉😀

dannylove - im not bashing the OP, im bashing the system. the greatest minds of the 20th century didn't grow up with laptops in school. by giving kids laptops, we're making it easier for them to perform already easy tasks. this will only slow their brains down.

try using a calculator for all possible math work you need to do for a week. then go do some mental math - you'll probably have slowed down because you no longer needed to think as quickly. this is just one of those things that has stuck with me🙂

 

[Noobtastic]

You guys are pretty crazy. We use the ipods for lectures and books we're supposed to read (err...listen).
Macbook is used during history, science and math. My school is getting sick of the crappy generalized texts, so we're taking a more eclectic approach.

Our studies and assignments will be posted on a private forum, where students will engage work in groups. Daily school chat will be required. We have the same budget as any other state school, however my charter gets an average of $60 per kid rather then the norm $40 per kid at the over-populous HS.

It should be fun.

If you have the ability, you get in the school. Simply as that.

 

[Xyclone]

I live in the San Fernando Valley, in Northridge. I live 1.1 mile from Granada Hills High School, a charter school. It still sucks, but at least it's better than other public schools. I don't go there btw, my neighbors do.

 

[mAdMaLuDaWg]

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
You guys are pretty crazy. We use the ipods for lectures and books we're supposed to read (err...listen).
Macbook is used during history, science and math. My school is getting sick of the crappy generalized texts, so we're taking a more eclectic approach.

Our studies and assignments will be posted on a private forum, where students will engage work in groups. Daily school chat will be required. We have the same budget as any other state school, however my charter gets an average of $60 per kid rather then the norm $40 per kid at the over-populous HS.

It should be fun.

If you have the ability, you get in the school. Simply as that.

Here is a really good book you should read

I agree with the sentiment that there is an overuse of computers in the classroom, and you can't get a quality education when you start replacing teachers with inanimate computers. This was actually a thesis in one of my classes at college and once you start researching it, you begin to understand one of the reasons why American education is going down the drain.

Don't get me wrong, computers do have a place in the classroom but it should never get to the point where you use a computer to interact with teachers/fellowstudents.

 

[Noobtastic]

Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
You guys are pretty crazy. We use the ipods for lectures and books we're supposed to read (err...listen).
Macbook is used during history, science and math. My school is getting sick of the crappy generalized texts, so we're taking a more eclectic approach.

Our studies and assignments will be posted on a private forum, where students will engage work in groups. Daily school chat will be required. We have the same budget as any other state school, however my charter gets an average of $60 per kid rather then the norm $40 per kid at the over-populous HS.

It should be fun.

If you have the ability, you get in the school. Simply as that.

Here is a really good book you should read

I agree with the sentiment that there is an overuse of computers in the classroom, and you can't get a quality education when you start replacing teachers with inanimate computers. This was actually a thesis in one of my classes at college and once you start researching it, you begin to understand one of the reasons why American education is going down the drain.

Don't get me wrong, computers do have a place in the classroom but it should never get to the point where you use a computer to interact with teachers/fellowstudents.

You're missing the point. We aren't running book text in the classroom, we are using a sohpisticated detailed open history sources. The mac makes this easier and it makes it more fun for the kids to learn.


We aren't employing s**ty garden variety public school glencoe craptastic text books.
Computers aren't the problem, it's the school. To many kids, excessive use of student aids and price-per-head funding really makes our state schools awful. (California)

Our education system is more or less a massive juvenile detention center then a source for learning.

 

[Dumac]

My history teacher this year basically uses the textbook as a guideline for what he has to cover. Most of our learning is from his lecturesthough, which come from his head.

But I agree that public school are ridiculously bad. At least where I live (Louisiana).

 

[gorcorps]

Everyones bashing out of jealousy... I'm trying to hold back I really am. All I'm gonna say is my calc 3 engineering class doesn't allow caculators for a reason.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Noobtastic

Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg

Here is a really good book you should read

I agree with the sentiment that there is an overuse of computers in the classroom, and you can't get a quality education when you start replacing teachers with inanimate computers. This was actually a thesis in one of my classes at college and once you start researching it, you begin to understand one of the reasons why American education is going down the drain.

Don't get me wrong, computers do have a place in the classroom but it should never get to the point where you use a computer to interact with teachers/fellowstudents.

You're missing the point. We aren't running book text in the classroom, we are using a sohpisticated detailed open history sources. The mac makes this easier and it makes it more fun for the kids to learn.


We aren't employing s**ty garden variety public school glencoe craptastic text books.
Computers aren't the problem, it's the school. To many kids, excessive use of student aids and price-per-head funding really makes our state schools awful. (California)

Our education system is more or less a massive juvenile detention center then a source for learning.

and what exactly are these "sophisticated, detailed, open history sources"? last i checked, those open sources were supposed to be teachers, and you were supposed to use them by asking questions in class. how is learning more fun with a laptop? granted not every lecture teacher in the world will be interesting. in the end, laptops/computers in the classroom for every child is a coverup for america's failing education system IMO.

gocorps - bashing out of jealousy? i don't want an ipod and i don't want a macbook, nor would i purchase either even if i had the money. as you said - you hardly use a calculator in a calc3 engineering class. what justifies the use of laptops by gradeschool/highschool students, who are learning the very fundamentals of math and NEED to be able to do it mentally?

 

[Noobtastic]

and what exactly are these "sophisticated, detailed, open history sources"?

Anything that doesn't include our crappy outdated and generalized national text books.
I rather read toilet paper imprints.

last i checked, those open sources were supposed to be teachers, and you were supposed to use them by asking questions in class.

Average public school teacher reads directly out of the text. Anything else actually takes effort, and who wants to teach kids who don't want to learn?

how is learning more fun with a laptop? granted not every lecture teacher in the world will be interesting. in the end, laptops/computers in the classroom for every child is a coverup for america's failing education system IMO.

Laptop is a tool our school is using. We still use the conventional pencil and paper bits, but we our incorporating our own cirrculum. Using a wide variety of learning methods and books, opposed to a single text for every subject. Macbooks and ipods cut down the costs. You have any idea how much it would cost to buy 20 books per kid for every subject?

My school is in the 95 percentile out of all public schools. We aren't royalty, rich or spoiled. It's because of the the teachers who refuse to let kids regurgitate information that makes it work.

gocorps - bashing out of jealousy? i don't want an ipod and i don't want a macbook, nor would i purchase either even if i had the money.

Ok?

as you said - you hardly use a calculator in a calc3 engineering class. what justifies the use of laptops by gradeschool/highschool students, who are learning the very fundamentals of math and NEED to be able to do it mentally?

Uh? I seriously doubt our school would be using computers for tests.
Scratch that. I know for certain they won't, because I spent more then an hour speaking to the director of technology.