Get ready for China's domination of science

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SINCE its economic reform began in 1978, China has gone from being a poor developing country to the second-largest economy in the world. China has also emerged from isolation to become a political superpower. Its meteoric rise has been one of the most important global changes of recent years: the rise of China was the most-read news story of the decade, surpassing even 9/11 and the Iraq war.


Yet when it comes to science and technology, most people still think of China as being stuck in the past and only visualise a country with massive steelworks and vast smoking factories.


That may have been true a few years ago, but it is no longer the case. Very quietly, China has become the world's second-largest producer of scientific knowledge, surpassed only by the US, a status it has achieved at an awe-inspiring rate. If it continues on its current trajectory China will overtake the US before 2020 and the world will look very different as a result. The historical scientific dominance of North America and Europe will have to adjust to a new world order.


In the west, we are largely familiar with research systems in which money, people and output stay roughly the same from year to year. Research spending in Europe and North America has outpaced economic growth since 1945, but not by a dramatic amount.


Not so with China. Data from the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development shows that between 1995 and 2006, China's gross expenditure on R&D (GERD) grew at an annual rate of 18 per cent. China now ranks third on GERD, just behind the US and Japan and ahead of any individual European Union state.


Universities have experienced similar growth. China's student population has reportedly reached 25 million, up from just 5 million nine years ago. China now has 1700 higher education institutions, around 100 of which make up the "Project 211" group. These elite institutions train four-fifths of PhD students, two-thirds of graduate students and one-third of undergraduates. They are home to 96 per cent of the country's key laboratories and consume 70 per cent of scientific research funding.


In 1998, China's research output was around 20,000 articles per year. In 2006 it reached 83,000, overtaking the traditional science powerhouses of Japan, Germany and the UK. Last year it exceeded 120,000 articles, second only to the US's 350,000.


http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20527426.900-get-ready-for-chinas-domination-of-science.html
 

Locut0s

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Nothing surprising about this. China in the last decade has had a very clear cut plan to become the next "Westernized" nation. And they have been brutally successsful at doing so. Go to any major city in china, hell the minor ones too, and the growth rate is just staggering. New buildings, new infrastructure, new malls, etc etc... are being built everywhere you turn. And the big cities like Shanghai are already just about as modern as any mega city anywhere else on earth. China also realizes that to compete with the west long term they have to be not just a manufacturing base but a source of innovation and productivity globally. Of course none of this necessarily brings Democracy any closer in China but then China wants to show the west that they can do what the west does better and "we don't need democracy to do it". In fact that is the truth. China is more of a capitalist country than the US and Europe is in many ways. This isn't a good thing for free speech but most of China right now is too busy improving themselves and getting wealthy to worry about little things like "free speech".
 

rh71

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how could their gov't let this information leak out?!
 

Hacp

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If the Phds numbers in China eventually emulate Phds in the US, there are gonna be a lot of Phd cab drivers in China :p
 

EricFartman

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That's because Chinese god "grass mud horse=“草泥马" , the words are written on mean

Worship to "草泥马", never failed a class.

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HannibalX

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cliffs ? I see a big wall of text

Heaven forbid you be asked to read more than a single sentence. Here's a second one, bet you won't make it this far. If you don't plan on reading the OP, don't shit in the thread with a stupid comment, GTFO instead.
 

Hacp

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A chinese person would have ready it quickly and comprehended it without cliffs. More evidence of America's decline.

I'm pretty sure Americans read english better than anyone else in the world. Everyone knows this.
 

Born2bwire

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Meh, they still have a ways to go when it comes to good research and quality output. The Chinese universities place great emphasis on the paper output. Professors need to churn out so many papers a year. A PhD student needs to publish X number of papers in journals with Y impact factor (whatever that is) to get their degree. Despite this, it was only the past year that the first time a Chinese received the Nobel Prize. But he is Hong Kong and United Kingdom educated and worked in HK and UK univesities and thus not a product of the current Chinese university system.

EDIT: No wait, looking through the list, China did get a prize in 1957 but both of those recipients left for the United States and became citizens during WWII.
 
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SSSnail

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I'd be worried when they take a stance of dominance, no so much right now.
 

daw123

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I'm pretty sure Americans read english better than anyone else in the world. Everyone knows this.

What about the English? Arrogant Americans.

Edit: And the Scots, Welsh and Irish.
 

nerp

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I'm pretty sure Americans read english better than anyone else in the world. Everyone knows this.

My friends in Europe and Asia seem to know English grammar and usage better than the average American I see on the internet.
 

Svnla

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Well, what the Chinese government will do with billions of poor peasants in the rural area? Plus the lack of natural resources and clean water is fast disappearing, environmental problems and so on.

And don't forget about corruption.
 
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tokie

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That's because Chinese god "grass mud horse=“草泥马" , the words are written on mean

Worship to "草泥马", never failed a class.

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what? you prayed to grass mud horse and never failed a class? doesn't understand.