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Get Nexus 7" tablet or wait and see if Apple does a mini iPad?

lokiju

lokiju

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I'm torn.

I think the Nexus 7" tablet looks like a good for the money device more so than any other 7" tablet to date.

On the other hand the 7" to 8" Apple iPad Mini rumors are back in high gear again and I can't help but feel like if there was a Apple iPad in the same form factor, I'd likely go for that over the Nexus.

Anyone else a Apple owner but on the fence about getting the new Nexus 7" tablet?
 
Puddle Jumper said:
Assuming there is an iPad Mini it's incredibly unlikely that it would be as cheap as the Nexus.
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I'd honestly be OK with spending $300 on a iPad Mini but not much if any beyond that.

I have so much money sunk into apps tied to my iTunes account that it'd be justifiable IMO.

I don't know if Apple has it in them to squeak out a $300 tablet but I think that's reasonable for a price point even considering its Apple.
 
The rumors are definitely in high gear that they are making a sub 8" screen ipad. Just google search it for several news articles posted today.
 
Puddle Jumper said:
Assuming there is an iPad Mini it's incredibly unlikely that it would be as cheap as the Nexus.
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I don't know that Apple has any interest in this market segment, but if they make a 7-8" tablet I would expect it to match or better the Nexus 7 in all material respects, and cost the same. Apple has a huge economy-of-scale advantage over anyone else, and already has a highly-evolved tablet OS. They can make devices like this cheaper than anybody and they are very smart about pricing relative to the competition.
 
Don Vito Corleone said:
I don't know that Apple has any interest in this market segment, but if they make a 7-8" tablet I would expect it to match or better the Nexus 7 in all material respects, and cost the same. Apple has a huge economy-of-scale advantage over anyone else, and already has a highly-evolved tablet OS. They can make devices like this cheaper than anybody and they are very smart about pricing relative to the competition.
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Personally, I'd expect an iPad mini WiFi to be $299, and a iPad mini 4G to be $399 or more.

Apple can make this stuff cheaply, but they also have the fattest margins.
 
Eug said:
Personally, I'd expect an iPad mini WiFi to be $299, and a iPad mini 4G to be $399 or more.

Apple can make this stuff cheaply, but they also have the fattest margins.
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That more in line with the rumors I've been reading.
 
Don Vito Corleone said:
I don't know that Apple has any interest in this market segment, but if they make a 7-8" tablet I would expect it to match or better the Nexus 7 in all material respects, and cost the same. Apple has a huge economy-of-scale advantage over anyone else, and already has a highly-evolved tablet OS. They can make devices like this cheaper than anybody and they are very smart about pricing relative to the competition.
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Apple doesn't sell products at cost much less at a loss which is what it would take to do what you are saying.

It's pretty safe to say the mini iPad would be 1024x768 for obvious reasons so the Nexus already has it beat on that front.
 
lokiju said:
Anyone else a Apple owner but on the fence about getting the new Nexus 7" tablet?
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I talked about this a bit in the other forums but in summary, I think the Nexus has great hardware and price. However, unless things have changed significantly, there is still a large "designed for tablet" app quality difference and selection between iOS and Android.

Now that the Nexus 7" is out, if developers flock to developing for the earliest that I'll be comfortable with it would be next year. As you can tell I'm not an "early adopter" type of guy.
 
Personally I think the most useful thing about a 7" form factor would be mobility, so it's a bummer that there isn't a cellular option. The small storage space also seems to be a pretty significant limitation.

I ordered one just to satisfy my curiosity and tinker around with it. I'm sure they'll sell pretty well despite the limitations, since they help to keep the price down.
 
I don't think you can really go wrong with the Nexus 7 right now. Its in the impulse buy range, and a superior device to all other 7in Android tablets and most 8"+ Android tablets too. It easily squashes the Kindle Fire and Nook Tab hands down, though Amazon and B&N will probably refresh or trim the pricing on their offerings shortly after the Nexus begins shipping.
 
Nexus 7 also has real GPS built-in. Apple only currently puts real GPS in their 3G/4G iPads; Wi-Fi only iPads only have A-GPS, which is a poor substitute.

Nexus 7 + dash mount + Offline Google Maps Nav = awesome.
 
I had Android phones since the first Hero, through the Evo 3D. I finally switched to a 4S when Sprint got them because i have had all 3 iPads now. Being able to use my apps between my phone and iPad is a huge plus. I don't think i would have a interest in a 7" iPad, but if you must have that size i would hold out for now.

I used to hate buying something twice for iOS and Droid.
 
Eug said:
I've never understood this argument for economies of scale. Sure if it means shipping 1000000 units with the screen vs. 100000 units with the screen, it makes sense. But if you're already shipping over 10000000 units a year, what difference does it make?
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You assume that you can easily make 10000000 a year, however when you have to retool facilities to produce those screens, initial production is slower than peak. Apple is in the rare situation where demand is almost always greater than supply, where their entire inventory is basically turned around in 5 days. Because of this, their sales are limited by what they can produce, not people's desire to have the product (especially when it first comes out or near holidays). This may eventually taper off like it has with the iPod Touch, but not so with the iPad or iPhone.
 
Except Apple already has multiple screen techs that it uses, and multiple different manufacturers (at different factories).
 
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Google admitted as much that they are making basically no profit on the 7 and that the margins are so low if you order it from somewhere from other than the Google Store they are taking a loss. Apple doesn't do that for sure.

If Apple is doing a Mini, it will be $299 and 1024x768.
 
jpiniero said:
Google admitted as much that they are making basically no profit on the 7 and that the margins are so low if you order it from somewhere from other than the Google Store they are taking a loss. Apple doesn't do that for sure.

If Apple is doing a Mini, it will be $299 and 1024x768.
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This. I predict we'll see it at 8gb for $299, 16gb for $399 and 32gb for $499. Somewhere in that ballpark.
 
jpeyton said:
Nexus 7 also has real GPS built-in. Apple only currently puts real GPS in their 3G/4G iPads; Wi-Fi only iPads only have A-GPS, which is a poor substitute.

Nexus 7 + dash mount + Offline Google Maps Nav = awesome.
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A-GPS is a real GPS augmented by something else, usually cellular but also WiFi (e.g. Skyhook). It stands for Assisted GPS, which implies a "real" GPS which is being assisted using some data provided from other sources, e.g. over WiFi or cellular. AGPS doesn't generally help too much with accuracy, just speed to fix. Relying totally on the signals from navigation satellites it takes at least 30 seconds for most GPS chips to get an initial fix. If they have access to precise ephemeris data (satellite orbits) and can get a rough estimate of their location from the WiFi or cellular network then that can be cut to around 3 seconds.

So - the Nexus 7 has a GPS receiver and uses AGPS techniques like an iPad 3G/4G does. Non-3G/4G iPad do not have any sort of GPS in them. They rely entirely on WiFi services like Skyhook to determine where you are.
 
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