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ahah i didnt notice that. tsk tsk tsk mark stirring sh!t up shame on u...🙂

Originally posted by: Acanthus


Whether the game itself is multithreaded or not, it is a tangible performance increase.

I agree, esp. when you are multitaskin
 
Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: goku
Originally posted by: JD50
I just built a new rig and I asked the question "dual or single core" many times. I got the x2 3800, 2gigs of ram, and a 7800 GT. Dual core is definitely worth it. I was playing world of warcraft, and I alt tabbed out so one of my addons could scan and catalogue the auction house (it takes abotu 20 min). While that was going on, I decided to see how BF2 would run. With the highest possible settings in BF2 I was getting about 60 FPS and absolutely no lag with world of warcraft running.

Once windows loads I can start playing games, browsing the internet, etc.. right away, I don't have to wait for any of my programs to load. Dual core is incredible, I haven't even tried to overclock it yet. I don't even notice when my virus scan is going. All I really do is game, but there is always some kind of program going on in the background. If you have $350 to spend on a CPU, get a dual core.

Welcome to 3 years ago, intel has had hyperthreading for a while and it does most of what you mentioned except running WOW and BF2 which I have yet to try.

Duh ! The X2 is in a class way above a P4 with Hyperthreading. Way to thread crap !

Still not absolutely required for gaming. Dual core will not exactly benefit anybody until games utilize that second core which will be a while. Now if you've got the money and your building a new rig, I see no harm in doing it. Infact my next system will be an AMD Socket M2 and likely dual core, or maybe quad core, what ever.
 
Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: orion23
Whatever.
I replaced my 3.4 with an X2 4800+ and some of the stuff I used to work with (video and winrar compression), takes just as long if not longer with the X2.



Probably cause you are not smart enough to set up your IO subsystem...the only way the 4800+ X2 doing those things takes the same time is...

1) video program is not multithreaded and you are archiving on the same drive you are doing your encoding...be smart OK...

I have done more HT testing tghen most so I now its strengths and weaknesses and you are making a silly comparison....

you may know it's strengths and weaknesses but you certainly can't spell.
 
Originally posted by: goku
Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: orion23
Whatever.
I replaced my 3.4 with an X2 4800+ and some of the stuff I used to work with (video and winrar compression), takes just as long if not longer with the X2.



Probably cause you are not smart enough to set up your IO subsystem...the only way the 4800+ X2 doing those things takes the same time is...

1) video program is not multithreaded and you are archiving on the same drive you are doing your encoding...be smart OK...

I have done more HT testing tghen most so I now its strengths and weaknesses and you are making a silly comparison....

you may know it's strengths and weaknesses but you certainly can't spell.

Your grammar could use a little tune up as well.
 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: goku
Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: orion23
Whatever.
I replaced my 3.4 with an X2 4800+ and some of the stuff I used to work with (video and winrar compression), takes just as long if not longer with the X2.



Probably cause you are not smart enough to set up your IO subsystem...the only way the 4800+ X2 doing those things takes the same time is...

1) video program is not multithreaded and you are archiving on the same drive you are doing your encoding...be smart OK...

I have done more HT testing tghen most so I now its strengths and weaknesses and you are making a silly comparison....

you may know it's strengths and weaknesses but you certainly can't spell.

Your grammar could use a little tune up as well.

:laugh:
 
Originally posted by: Markfw900
Almost all of those are because people are not using the X2 driver. This has been beat to death in other threads, especially due to a-holes like you that won;t listen. So you blame a bad bios from an incompetant motherboard maker or a person that can't correctly configure thier PC, or Intel in the one case, on the X2 ? I don;t want to hear about Intel's problems, as we all know they have a crap dual-core.

Dude, I laid out the bait and you took it making a fool of yourself. There's no reason to get crabby about other people's choices. Why? Because by the time most people feel they need to upgrade, it's not like it's going to break the bank to replace the motherboard and CPU. It's as if you're assuming everyone is from Africa and it's so important not to make a mistake of buying something twice. Fact is, the extra $200 US would make a big difference for those who can't afford it. Stop being so childish. And original poster? We can make decisions on our own. I can't wait to read Anand's report on the dual core issues, the OBJECTIVE information.
 
Bottom line:

Never upgrade for there is always a newer, better, cheaper technology lurking around the corner... :disgust:

Shame on me, for breaking this rule, got a nice 4400 X2 waiting to be assembled here. Cant wait.
 
What dual core "issues" are there? 😀 I haven't seen any problems with dual core- why do people keep pointing out that there are "issues" or "problems" with it? Some people have some problems with older games because they don't install the x2 driver- other than that, I don't know (?).

Why is it always single core owners who are telling everyone to not go dual core? They don't even have any experience with them..
 
Originally posted by: ElTorrente
What dual core "issues" are there? 😀 I haven't seen any problems with dual core- why do people keep pointing out that there are "issues" or "problems" with it? Some people have some problems with older games because they don't install the x2 driver- other than that, I don't know (?).

Why is it always single core owners who are telling everyone to not go dual core? They don't even have any experience with them..


Well, since I myself dont have a dual-core, I cant say but, theres been quite a few people saying they are choppy and not playing right in hl2 and other games like that. Those are pretty new so..... I suppose the reason for it might be they didnt have the x2 driver installed perhaps? Thats probably was he was refering to anyways...
 
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Welcome to 3 years ago, intel has had hyperthreading for a while and it does most of what you mentioned except running WOW and BF2 which I have yet to try.






l like intel and amd but that comment is an insult, intel have never given us a dual core solution ''as gamers'' with hyper bs threading , anywhere near the level of useability of the amdx2 cpu's, not to mention l have to pay twice for 2 xeons ! ~~~
So 3 years ago is straight up BS , l still cant see a quallity dual x2 core biult into one cpu by intel now so, basicly intel are catching up.........
 
I am still going to recommend single cores for workstations. Alot of Engineering software (CFD/FEA/Etc.) charge per processor, which in the case of dual cores may (or not) be counted as 2 processors. Since a unique license, which can run $10,000+/yr, is needed for each processor having a 3.8GHz single core>>>>>>>>2.8GHz dual core.

But for gaming, or whatever you want to spend your money on... dual on.
 
Originally posted by: modempower
Originally posted by: ElTorrente
What dual core "issues" are there? 😀 I haven't seen any problems with dual core- why do people keep pointing out that there are "issues" or "problems" with it? Some people have some problems with older games because they don't install the x2 driver- other than that, I don't know (?).

Why is it always single core owners who are telling everyone to not go dual core? They don't even have any experience with them..


Well, since I myself dont have a dual-core, I cant say but, theres been quite a few people saying they are choppy and not playing right in hl2 and other games like that. Those are pretty new so..... I suppose the reason for it might be they didnt have the x2 driver installed perhaps? Thats probably was he was refering to anyways...


I play HL2- runs awesome. In fact, it ran great even before I installed the X2 driver. The only reason I installed the X2 driver, actually, was because PCMark05 didn't run properly. Other than that, the following games ran great for me: BF2, HL2, Hearts of Iron 2, Highway to the Reich, and World War 2 online.
 
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