I don't feel sorry for anyone who can get off their deadass work. People who cannot I do though.
Sysadmin
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I hate bums.....I live in Santa Monica and the authorities are very tolorant of the homeless there.....
I would say 90% of bums are bums because they're just plain unmotivated and lazy.........
Yes there are the mental cases....
Here is a test next time you walk by a scum of the earth....offer them a lunch in exhange for a car wash...see if they take it.......You will not get one taker.....they just want your money..........Lazy FVcks....
What really pisses me off though are the wannabe bums........the teenagers you see on pedestrian malls begging for money.....GET A FVCKING LIFE you're like 16-18 years old....wayyyyyyy too young to be begging.....
I would say 90% of bums are bums because they're just plain unmotivated and lazy.........
Yes there are the mental cases....
Here is a test next time you walk by a scum of the earth....offer them a lunch in exhange for a car wash...see if they take it.......You will not get one taker.....they just want your money..........Lazy FVcks....
What really pisses me off though are the wannabe bums........the teenagers you see on pedestrian malls begging for money.....GET A FVCKING LIFE you're like 16-18 years old....wayyyyyyy too young to be begging.....
Geekbabe
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Many of the homeless are mentally ill,most (like the rest of the population are aging) most also have one or more chronic medical conditions that don't get looked after till they're sick enouh to land in an ER.
Yeah,I'll give a bit of money or a smoke to such a person if I can.
Yeah,I'll give a bit of money or a smoke to such a person if I can.
I got that, but if you give him food he won't have to use the money that others give him to buy food, because, you know, even bums have to eat.
I had long breaks in between classes a couple terms, since I live 45 minutes away from school I couldn't go home for lunch, so I'd go get a bite to eat... usually at LaRosa's pizza. When I'd have leftovers, I'd hand them out to the bums waiting by the highway because I know it wouldn't keep in my car for another 5 or 6 hours. They seemed to appreciate it and thanked me, but I wouldn't give them one penny.
I've worked hard to earn money at lame jobs. No way am I giving someone money just to stand on a corner. Do SOMETHING worthwhile... make junk sculptures and sell them or something.
I've worked hard to earn money at lame jobs. No way am I giving someone money just to stand on a corner. Do SOMETHING worthwhile... make junk sculptures and sell them or something.
NuclearNed
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I don't usually give handouts. But at the same time I don't forget that these are people with problems. If a person is a bum because they are lazy, then that is a problem. If a person has had a run of bad luck, that too is a problem. Problems can be be overcome. I don't hate these people and I don't want to "beat the piss out of" (thanks, Maverick) any of them. What I do dislike are highly educated, well-to-do people who bitch and moan about solvable problems instead of lifting a single finger to help remedy the situation. The only way to a better world is action, not complaining.
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One time a bum waiting in front of McDs and asking for money so he can buy himself a burger. I gave him a dollar and walked in to McDs. I looked out the window and I see the same bum running across the streets to the local liquor store. Probably buying some brews or smoking up my money which was intended to buy himself a meal.
Originally posted by: Amused
This is why if you want to REALLY help the homeless, you'll never give them money directly, but give money to charitable organizations who house, feed, cloth and help them find jobs. Nine times out of ten when you give a bum money, it will go to one addiction or another. It will NOT serve to stop their suffering... but only prolong it.
In other words, people who give bums money directly are as responsible for the bum bumming as the bum is. (And yes, I was sober when I wrote that.)
I used to have that opinion, but then I realized that many homeless people are not obviously addicts, & if you never give anyone money directly, as a matter of principle, then you are guaranteed to not be helping those who will not use if for alcohol/drugs.
Amused
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Originally posted by: Spamela
Originally posted by: Amused
This is why if you want to REALLY help the homeless, you'll never give them money directly, but give money to charitable organizations who house, feed, cloth and help them find jobs. Nine times out of ten when you give a bum money, it will go to one addiction or another. It will NOT serve to stop their suffering... but only prolong it.
In other words, people who give bums money directly are as responsible for the bum bumming as the bum is. (And yes, I was sober when I wrote that.
I used to have that opinion, but then I realized that many homeless people are not obviously addicts, & if you never give anyone money directly, as a matter of principle, then you are guaranteed to not be helping those who will not use if for alcohol/drugs.
Nope. Non-addicts can use the same charities to get help with housing, clothing, food and job placement. Be they addicts or not, the best plan in giving your money to charities so they can offer supervised assistence.
At a job I used to have on pretty days I would go across the street to a little garden area at the local art museum and eat lunch because it was quiet and peaceful. One day this guy came around with some things he was selling, namely magazines. He actually had one I was interested in which was a new computer mag with a CD with some programs on it. I knew he had gotten them from a dumpster somewhere or something but I liked his approach in trying to do something, anything for his money and not simply begging and giving nothing in return which all other panhandlers had done. I was more than happy to give him a few bucks for that magazine. Sure he could have a lit up a crack pipe ten minutes later but maybe he didn't.
Q: What's the difference between a bum and a city road worker?
A: The orange vest and a paycheck.
A: The orange vest and a paycheck.
silverpig
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My dad works in construction and had a bum come up to his truck on the way to work one day. He bugged my dad for money. My dad said, "How about this, my site is just down the street, why don't you come down and I'll give you a job to do. I'll pay you in cash at the end of the day, and if you want, you can come back tomorrow too."
The bum's response: "Uh, I dunno man... I'm pretty busy today."
There's one who frequents the trendy neighbourhood near my apartment all the time. He hits people (mainly students waiting for the bus) up for money all the time. The kicker is, he's asking for money while standing outside starbucks holding a venti starbucks coffee. It's gotten to the point now where he doesn't even try to pass off that he's poor. He saunters up to people with a smug look on his face, sipping his coffee asking if you could help out the homeless today. Dude lives with his brother just a few blocks away, and his brother, who is a lawyer, supports him. What a tard.
The bum's response: "Uh, I dunno man... I'm pretty busy today."
There's one who frequents the trendy neighbourhood near my apartment all the time. He hits people (mainly students waiting for the bus) up for money all the time. The kicker is, he's asking for money while standing outside starbucks holding a venti starbucks coffee. It's gotten to the point now where he doesn't even try to pass off that he's poor. He saunters up to people with a smug look on his face, sipping his coffee asking if you could help out the homeless today. Dude lives with his brother just a few blocks away, and his brother, who is a lawyer, supports him. What a tard.
My friends told me a story a while back. The 2 of them are in the car when they see this guy walk behind a bush. A few seconds later he comes back out with the same clothes on only now he's got his shirt untucked and dirt all over him and his clothes. Yes, he went behind the bush, "bummed himself up", and came out with a sign to beg for money at the intersection under the overpass.
I feel bad for those who are truely homeless and down on their luck but I think the vast majority of the bums begging for money are simply lazy, irresponsible, losers by choice.
I feel bad for those who are truely homeless and down on their luck but I think the vast majority of the bums begging for money are simply lazy, irresponsible, losers by choice.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.........LAZY F##%^ERS!!!!!!!!!!!
Hate that SHYT!!!!!!!!!!:disgust:
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Spamela
Originally posted by: Amused
This is why if you want to REALLY help the homeless, you'll never give them money directly, but give money to charitable organizations who house, feed, cloth and help them find jobs. Nine times out of ten when you give a bum money, it will go to one addiction or another. It will NOT serve to stop their suffering... but only prolong it.
In other words, people who give bums money directly are as responsible for the bum bumming as the bum is. (And yes, I was sober when I wrote that.
I used to have that opinion, but then I realized that many homeless people are not obviously addicts, & if you never give anyone money directly, as a matter of principle, then you are guaranteed to not be helping those who will not use if for alcohol/drugs.
Nope. Non-addicts can use the same charities to get help with housing, clothing, food and job placement. Be they addicts or not, the best plan in giving your money to charities so they can offer supervised assistence.
maybe. but if the charities are doing such a great job, then
why do so many people have to beg?
mentally ill people can't really do anything productive at all, hell these people need to be diagnosed, treated but medication often does more harm then good and it doesn't come cheap either;and because our society cares more about money then the well being of others. its a greedy world and its more then just about being lazy. bill gate does everything with his brains, that's why he is the richest man in the world and he doesn't even sweat a little. having to work hard for nexts to nothing or do a dirty job just for food is not very thrilling to anyone, even the homeless. they didnt get like this because they wanted to but because no one cared about them, especially our government who thinks anyone should work so they can collect more taxes(extreme greed) unless you are seriously mentally stupid or hadicapped. most of our tax money is often wasted by our government anyway on deficit spending affecting even upper middleclasses adversely, it would be more beneficial to feed the poor and homeless. yea, their starving and that's what drove them to insanity. I know whats it like because I had poor poisoning while eating fast food on the road. brought myself to the hospital, was asked a bunch of question over and over and they thought I was insane! no sane person would bring themselve to a hospital. what a bunch of crouch of bs. then soon afterward, was brought to a mental hospital, and kept me their for a week. i'm really pissed what they did to me because those freaks gave me some medication called seroquel and paxial in high dosage for a pyscho which nearly killed me. said i might harm someone or someone else if they let me out early. our corrupted system is all about money, now, their trying to bill me as well for over 1267 which doesn't list any details on how they have helped me. hospital can be quite evil, i'm never going to any of them anymore because they only see your wallet and charges much more then they should.
That's why homeless shelters should start giving out drugs and alcohol...everybody wins!
Really? I'm homeless. Can you send me a few bucks PayPal until I get back on my feet?
I'm sure he was busy, with that big corporate meeting and all. Offer to discuss business over a round of drinks and give him your card. Arrange a schedule for you to give him money for free.
Amused
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Originally posted by: Spamela
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Spamela
Originally posted by: Amused
This is why if you want to REALLY help the homeless, you'll never give them money directly, but give money to charitable organizations who house, feed, cloth and help them find jobs. Nine times out of ten when you give a bum money, it will go to one addiction or another. It will NOT serve to stop their suffering... but only prolong it.
In other words, people who give bums money directly are as responsible for the bum bumming as the bum is. (And yes, I was sober when I wrote that.
I used to have that opinion, but then I realized that many homeless people are not obviously addicts, & if you never give anyone money directly, as a matter of principle, then you are guaranteed to not be helping those who will not use if for alcohol/drugs.
Nope. Non-addicts can use the same charities to get help with housing, clothing, food and job placement. Be they addicts or not, the best plan in giving your money to charities so they can offer supervised assistence.
maybe. but if the charities are doing such a great job, then
why do so many people have to beg?
For the same reason they are kicked off of government programs as well. They refuse to live by the conditions set up by the charity or government program. If you are an addict, no charity is going to just give you drug money.
People don't "have to beg" in our society. They choose to.
He could have been Paranoid and thought you were going to posion him. Maybe that's why he wanted the money he didn't trust anybody to buy him food.
PS: You should not judge all homeless people by one that didn't want burger king.
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