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get a dui here, your mug shot goes on facebook lolz

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IceBergSLiM said:
Before they get a fair trial? Sounds like a good system 🙄
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Actually in DUI, you are guilty until proven innocent. You also have two trials which is messed up.

The big thing stacked against one is if you fight it, you can't even get a work permit usually until your verdict. Just getting a court date is up to a year in many places.

Most can't afford to not have a car for a year.
 
dabuddha said:
At least in our world, innocent folks wouldn't be killed by stupid retards who get behind the wheel of a vehicle while intoxicated 🙂
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no instead you would execute them on suspician of thinking about maybe drining then driving

what a way better world.

sounds alot like V for Vendetta

this is right up there in saying that doing fullbody scans or heavy frisking for merely wanting to fly on a plane is OK, because it only sucks if you are doing something wrong.....
 
alkemyst said:
Actually in DUI, you are guilty until proven innocent. You also have two trials which is messed up.

The big thing stacked against one is if you fight it, you can't even get a work permit usually until your verdict. Just getting a court date is up to a year in many places.

Most can't afford to not have a car for a year.
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Thats because DMV isn't part of the criminal courts / judicial branch and doesn't need to ad here to innocent until proven guilty. I get that and it makes sense.
 
Good, maybe it will make people think again before drinking and driving. And honestly, how often do you "mistakenly" get accused of DUI?
 
alkemyst said:
Actually in DUI, you are guilty until proven innocent. You also have two trials which is messed up.

The big thing stacked against one is if you fight it, you can't even get a work permit usually until your verdict. Just getting a court date is up to a year in many places.

Most can't afford to not have a car for a year.
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You seem very informed.....so how many DUIs do you have?
 
Numenorean said:
That you're a fucking moron.
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ahhh yes personal attacks always best at winning others to your line of thinking. I'll remind you:



Originally Posted by IceBergSLiM View Post
You don't have to drink and drive to end up on their. you just have to be arrested for it. fail.
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You replied:

Uhhhh.....yeah they just arrest so many people who are stone cold sober and give them DUI's.
 
RadiclDreamer said:
Good, maybe it will make people think again before drinking and driving. And honestly, how often do you "mistakenly" get accused of DUI?
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More often than you think. Spend a day in court. Even if they have a 90% conviction rate that is still 100 people out of thousand that had their picture put on blast globally forever and ever.
 
IceBergSLiM said:
ahhh yes personal attacks always best at winning others to your line of thinking. I'll remind you:


You replied:

Uhhhh.....yeah they just arrest so many people who are stone cold sober and give them DUI's.
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Yes, I did. What's the problem with it?

Yeah I can see this happening all the time:

Officer pulls someone over for driving in too straight of a line, they do a breathalyzer and have a 0.000000 come up. The officer yells "Book 'em Dan-O" and they cuff the guy, toss him in the cruiser, tow his car and charge him with a DUI.
 
IceBergSLiM said:
Thats because DMV isn't part of the criminal courts / judicial branch and doesn't need to ad here to innocent until proven guilty. I get that and it makes sense.
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It probably gets to the whole 'driving is a privledge not a right' position that the state takes.

BTW, I also think this is bullshit. The way society is structured now you need a car to function normally (unless you live in a city or something).

Drunk driving laws should be replaced by "driving while impaired" laws. Get rid of brethalizers and pull over anyone that's weaving around in their lane or driving erratically. If they're half asleep or drunk or talking on their cell phone, they are driving while impaired.
 
IceBergSLiM said:
innocent people are killed and hurt all the time. We have specific laws and punishments for that.

You have me wrong if you think i'm supporting DUI. I'm not.

But we already have laws and appropriate punishments for manslaughter and assault with a deadly weapon.

I can't support demonizing a dui which as written is a victimless crime.
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Well I for one support demonizing those apprehended while driving under the influence! If you ever have a friend or loved one who is killed by one of those pieces of shit you will know how those of us who have feel.
 
Blackjack200 said:
It probably gets to the whole 'driving is a privledge not a right' position that the state takes.

BTW, I also think this is bullshit. The way society is structured now you need a car to function normally (unless you live in a city or something).

Drunk driving laws should be replaced by "driving while impaired" laws. Get rid of brethalizers and pull over anyone that's weaving around in their lane or driving erratically. If they're half asleep or drunk or talking on their cell phone, they are driving while impaired.
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:thumbsup:
 
Numenorean said:
Yes, I did. What's the problem with it?

Yeah I can see this happening all the time:

Officer pulls someone over for driving in too straight of a line, they do a breathalyzer and have a 0.000000 come up. The officer yells "Book 'em Dan-O" and they cuff the guy, toss him in the cruiser, tow his car and charge him with a DUI.
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Where to start.....smh
States laws will vary of course but the following is very common

1) you don't need to be "moving" in a vehicle to get arrested for a dui
2) car doesn't need to be on to get arrested for a dui
3) you don't even need to fail a breathalyzer to get arrested for a dui
4) Even if you did fail a breathalyzer they are notoriously misused, under serviced and a not properly calibrated

All your assumptions are wrong from the jump so I don't really need to add anything more.
 
Skitzer said:
Well I for one support demonizing those apprehended while driving under the influence! If you ever have a friend or loved one who is killed by one of those pieces of shit you will know how those of us who have feel.
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So your going officially on record for not being able to distinguish between crimes that result in death or injury to victim(s) and crimes without a victim?
 
Skitzer said:
Well I for one support demonizing those apprehended while driving under the influence! If you ever have a friend or loved one who is killed by one of those pieces of shit you will know how those of us who have feel.
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So I run down your loved ones stone cold sober, am I still a nice guy. I've been hit by several sober drivers and never once by a drunk one. All bad drivers are a threat.
 
surfsatwerk said:
So I run down your loved ones stone cold sober, am I still a nice guy. I've been hit by several sober drivers and never once by a drunk one. All bad drivers are a threat.
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Well actually you don't need to actually run down anyone in his eye. Just being a bad driver makes you guilty enough.
 
Skitzer said:
Well I for one support demonizing those apprehended while driving under the influence! If you ever have a friend or loved one who is killed by one of those pieces of shit you will know how those of us who have feel.
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how exactly is drinking then driving different than

a) talking

b) talking on a cell phone

c) texting

d)eating or drinking

e) being far too asleep/tired to drive properly

f) anything else that results in poorer driving performance.


its actually not. all are active choices, the worst part about a-e, is the decision is made by someone without impaired judgement compared to the person who is intoxicated.


if DUI laws arent harsh enough, then most of our criminal penalties arent hard enough.

you can rob someone with a weapon and get a lighter sentence for your first time and someone who gets a DUI. let alone beating your spouse or kid. other types of theft/property crime/drug dealing/trafficing

the only criminals treated with an equal amount of disdain/attempted public humilation are sex offenders

that is my main beef with all this DUI bullshit. its way over the top compared to many other things, mostly thanks to MADD/SADD
 
Zargon said:
no instead you would execute them on suspician of thinking about maybe drining then driving

what a way better world.

sounds alot like V for Vendetta

this is right up there in saying that doing fullbody scans or heavy frisking for merely wanting to fly on a plane is OK, because it only sucks if you are doing something wrong.....
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If their blood alcohol is elevated above legal limits, doesn't that mean they're beyond "suspicion of thinking about drinking"?
 
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