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Germany doesn't like Scientology or Tom Cruise
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I have a big problem with this. A lot of people cheer Germany--the same types who take every chance to slander Scientology but don't hold other religions to the same judgment. Does no one see the obvious discrimination taking place?
Christianity gets so much of its respect from being around so damn long--it has become "tradition" in a sense in the same way many people believe in Judaism not with regard to a belief in higher being but to be an observing Jew is the more important component. Tradition somehow validates religion (understanding, given how humans operate). That and the size of the subscriber base.
Mormonism has been slandered a lot and even someone like Romney will face an uphill battle. Even still, Mormonism is growing in leaps and bounds which is surprising given how young it is. Give it enough time (say, another 500 years if staying the current course and millions to billions more followers) and Mormonism will have gained much in the way of legitimacy.
I find the fact that they deem Scientology a cult to be rather telling of how people view the legitimacy of religion in general. The same goes for comedians, internet posts on forums, bloggers and anyone else who takes every chance to bash Scientology over the more absurd religions and followings.
I see a sort of smug contempt (more than any towards other religions) that even non-believers (and atheists) have towards Scientology and see in them that even this perverse idea of tradition, age and size breeding legitimacy has infected even the non-believers as much as the believers. It is interesting.
(Disclaimer: I have an equal disdain for all religions)
Christianity gets so much of its respect from being around so damn long--it has become "tradition" in a sense in the same way many people believe in Judaism not with regard to a belief in higher being but to be an observing Jew is the more important component. Tradition somehow validates religion (understanding, given how humans operate). That and the size of the subscriber base.
Mormonism has been slandered a lot and even someone like Romney will face an uphill battle. Even still, Mormonism is growing in leaps and bounds which is surprising given how young it is. Give it enough time (say, another 500 years if staying the current course and millions to billions more followers) and Mormonism will have gained much in the way of legitimacy.
I find the fact that they deem Scientology a cult to be rather telling of how people view the legitimacy of religion in general. The same goes for comedians, internet posts on forums, bloggers and anyone else who takes every chance to bash Scientology over the more absurd religions and followings.
I see a sort of smug contempt (more than any towards other religions) that even non-believers (and atheists) have towards Scientology and see in them that even this perverse idea of tradition, age and size breeding legitimacy has infected even the non-believers as much as the believers. It is interesting.
(Disclaimer: I have an equal disdain for all religions)
Oh I know what Scientology is about. I think it is pretty damn ridiculous too, but not nearly as bad as other (mainstream, even) religions if you stand back and look at them thoroughly.
I'd say Scientology is tame if only because it is so absurd. Mainstream religions just manage to get overlooked by virtue of being part of "tradition". Pick and choose is the order of the day. Once again the "tradition" gets in the way of what people want to believe about their religion and what the religion actually promotes. They use morals to dictate their religion when it should be just the opposite.
If we were to measure religious beliefs by the absurdity and downright "evilness" of their doctrines then I think there are far more suggestive and mainstream ones that fit the bill before Scientology IF that is your measure.
While flat out "nutty", Scientology is less threatening in that sense.
(I still have an equal disdain for all religions regardless, though.)
I'd say Scientology is tame if only because it is so absurd. Mainstream religions just manage to get overlooked by virtue of being part of "tradition". Pick and choose is the order of the day. Once again the "tradition" gets in the way of what people want to believe about their religion and what the religion actually promotes. They use morals to dictate their religion when it should be just the opposite.
If we were to measure religious beliefs by the absurdity and downright "evilness" of their doctrines then I think there are far more suggestive and mainstream ones that fit the bill before Scientology IF that is your measure.
While flat out "nutty", Scientology is less threatening in that sense.
(I still have an equal disdain for all religions regardless, though.)
alphatarget1
Diamond Member
Ausgezeichnet!
JulesMaximus
No Lifer
JulesMaximus doesn't like scientology or Tom Cruise.
JulesMaximus does like zee Germans however. :beer:
JulesMaximus does like zee Germans however. :beer:
Inspector Jihad
Lifer
with absolutely no fucking idea what he's talking about.
Inspector Jihad
Lifer
you're irish?
Rabidwerewolf
Member
hear, hear!!!
:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:
:thumbsup:
yllus
Elite Member & Lifer
Old thread but Germany means business with Scientology... Like islamistic organisations and parties of the extreme right, Scientology is under surveilance of the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution. Most Germans think of Scientology as an totalitarian (=anti-democratic, hence the surveilance) money machine, a sect with brainwash camps. And they're probably right.
Here's a photo of a well-placed German brochure about Scientology...
Here's a photo of a well-placed German brochure about Scientology...
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