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dmcowen674

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http://www.11alive.com/news/article...-charged-with-stealing-5-cents-worth-of-juice

Electric car owner charged with stealing 5 cents worth of juice



CHAMBLEE, Ga. - One Saturday in November, Kaveh Kamooneh drove his Nissan Leaf to Chamblee Middle School, where his 11-year-old son was playing tennis.

Kamooneh had taken the liberty of charging the electric car with an exterior outlet at the school. Within minutes of plugging in the car, he says a Chamblee police officer appeared.

"He said that he was going to charge me with theft by taking because I was taking power, electricity from the school," Kamooneh said.

"I'm not sure how much electricity he stole," said Chamblee police Sergeant Ernesto Ford, but he added: It doesn't matter. "He broke the law. He stole something that wasn't his."

Sgt. Ford says the officer should have arrested Kamooneh on the spot. But he didn't. Instead, the officer filed a police report. Then 11 days passed, and two deputies showed up at his house in Decatur.

Records show Kamooneh spent more than 15 hours in the DeKalb County Jail for plugging his car into a school's electrical outlet.

Kamooneh acknowledges he hadn't asked permission first. "When I got there, there was nobody there. It was a Saturday morning," he said.

"A theft is a theft," Sgt. Ford said. When asked if he'd make the arrest again, he answered: "Absolutely."


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Kaido said:
Okay, here we go:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article...-charged-with-stealing-5-cents-worth-of-juice

That changes the story quite a bit:

1. His son was not a student at the school; he was taking tennis lessons
2. He had previously interfered with the use of the tennis courts during school hours
3. He had previously been told that he was not allowed on the school tennis courts without permission of the school
4. The officer talked to him on the day of the 911 call. He was "difficult and argumentative". He made no attempt to apologize or to say he wouldn't do it again. He also falsely accused the officer of damaging his car, which had prior damage, as was shown on the officer's dashcam.
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OK, there is more meat to it.

There was a person at the school that was out to get the guy.

The Police Officer could have just issued a warning.

Being a Douche then made the Officer and the Dept want to go after him.

Bottom line is the guy is now part of a Witch Hunt and this will affect anyone with Electric Cars down the road from now on.
 
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dmcowen674

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There is a post in OT but this is certainly a Political & News issue.

This is first time someone has been arrested for charging their Electric car.

Of course this happened in the same area as what happened to me in 2000.

It's Dekalb Georgia again.
 
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BikeJunkie

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I like how there's emphasis that it was only 15 cents worth of gas, but no acknowledgement that it was limited to 15 cents because an officer stepped in "within minutes."

If the school had an accessible supply of gasoline, should it be acceptable to siphon it?
 
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BikeJunkie said:
I like how there's emphasis that it was only 15 cents worth of gas, but no acknowledgement that it was limited to 15 cents because an officer stepped in "within minutes."

If the school had an accessible supply of gasoline, should it be acceptable to siphon it?
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Acceptable? Maybe not, but neither should anyone be surprised when it disappears. Unsecured property tends to be stolen, this is not new.
 
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BikeJunkie

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BUnit1701 said:
Unsecured property tends to be stolen, this is not new.
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Not sure what the relevance of that statement is?

And why did this need a second thread, anyway? OP posted in the other thread almost an hour before posting this one.
 
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nageov3t

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getting arrested sounds pretty over the top... but he probably should have been fined and given a warning if it was just his first offense.
 
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brycejones

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The economic impact of this case is very small. But the fact remains you just don't plug in and start taking someone else's power without permission. Just because he was driving an electric car doesn't give him the right to plug in wherever and charge his car.
 
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Londo_Jowo said:
Imagine that, getting charged with theft for taking something that doesn't belong to the person.
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The confessed thief should be praised for his stealing electrical power from a public school, not punished for his theft.
 
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BikeJunkie said:
Not sure what the relevance of that statement is?

And why did this need a second thread, anyway? OP posted in the other thread almost an hour before posting this one.
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This is ATP&N, not Off Topic. There is a difference.
 
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momeNt

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dmcowen674 said:
There is a post in OT but this is certainly a Political & News issue.

This is first time someone has been arrested for charging their Electric car.

Of course this happened in the same area as what happened to me in 2000.

It's Dekalb Georgia again.
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The first time somebody got arrested for murder probably made the news too.

What the fuck is your point?
 
thraashman

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I'm curious if he had plugged in his cell phone to charge would he have faced the same consequences?
 
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BikeJunkie

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thraashman said:
I'm curious if he had plugged in his cell phone to charge would he have faced the same consequences?
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Probably not, supposing it was the school who made the call. If someone charges their phone at your house, are you going to think twice about it? What if they plug in their FUCKING CAR?

Honestly just the thought of that scenario makes me chuckle :)

"Dude, did you just plug in your FUCKING CAR?"

"Yeah, I plugged in my phone last time. So what."

"GTFO!"
 
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BikeJunkie said:
Probably not, supposing it was the school who made the call. If someone charges their phone at your house, are you going to think twice about it? What if they plug in their FUCKING CAR?

Honestly just the thought of that scenario makes me chuckle :)

"Dude, did you just plug in your FUCKING CAR?"

"Yeah, I plugged in my phone last time. So what."

"GTFO!"
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I'm not saying they should be equivalent, but the officer's justification for it would make it seem as though legally they have to be.
 
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thraashman said:
I'm not saying they should be equivalent, but the officer's justification for it would make it seem as though legally they have to be.
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Oh I agree - I just think that somewhere between "cell phone" and "CAR" lies the truth ;)

This is a story with a compelling argument on both sides, really.
 
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dmcowen674

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thraashman said:
I'm curious if he had plugged in his cell phone to charge would he have faced the same consequences?
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I know I will start calling the police when I see people plugging in their phone and tablet/laptop chargers.

It is obviously the highest crimes we have to worry about these days.

He should be facing 120 years in prison and $800,000 in fines and restitution just like me.
 
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BikeJunkie

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dmcowen674 said:
I know I will start calling the police when I see people plugging in their phone and tablet/laptop chargers.

It is obviously the highest crimes we have to worry about these days.

He should be facing 120 years in prison and $800,000 in fines and restitution just like me.
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I'm sorry, but this is patently STUPID. You make it sound as though a serial rapist will go free as a result of law enforcement pursuing this.
 
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brycejones

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dmcowen674 said:
I know I will start calling the police when I see people plugging in their phone and tablet/laptop chargers.

It is obviously the highest crimes we have to worry about these days.

He should be facing 120 years in prison and $800,000 in fines and restitution just like me.
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If you're going to rant about what happened to you then you really need to give us the details. Otherwise stop trying to make it all about you.
 
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desy

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Wonder if 'Kaveh' was the issue
However it will be a growing problem
A cell phone isn't suckling at the teet same as a auto would be, pennies for a phone vs $ for a car
 
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BikeJunkie said:
I'm sorry, but this is patently STUPID. You make it sound as though a serial rapist will go free as a result of law enforcement pursuing this.
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won't somebody think of the children!


Screw this guy. Don't take what isn't yours and you won't have a problem.


The cell phone analogy is a bad one. You would need to compare bringing 1000 cell phones (or whatever the number is) into someone's house. Or a couple refrigerators. Or an electric furnace. "Hi, while I'm here I'm going to plug in my 75,000 BTU electric heater."

Don't steal and you won't be charged with stealing. Its that easy.
 
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